Guest Nanks Report post Posted September 7, 2004 Well, the first bit's accurate anyway. Michael Moore has said that he will only submit his controversial doco, Fahrenheit 9/11 for consideration in the Best Picture category of the Oscars and not for Best Documentary. Apparently it's a combination of wanting his picture to hang with the big boys and also allowing other worthy documentaries a chance at the top honour. Source: www.theage.com.au Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted September 7, 2004 *smiles and nods* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted September 7, 2004 *smiles and nods* *awakward pause* UH OHHHHHHHHHH! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted September 7, 2004 I like his justification. it's cute. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted September 7, 2004 In my perfect world, Moore would get nominated - only to lose to Mel Gibson for "Passion of the Christ." Wait, who am I kidding? I just want Gibson to win anyway, just to piss people off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted September 7, 2004 I'd laugh for days if that happened. Days, I tell you. The thing is this: if it wins for Best Picture, it just gives the "mockumentary" critics more fuel for their fire. It moves it one more step towards being considered entertainment and not true documentary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted September 7, 2004 If Moore really wanted to be kind to the other filmmakers then he would go on a hunger strike just for that one night at the awards show. You knew a horrible line like that was coming. *smiles and nods* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbacon 0 Report post Posted September 7, 2004 If Moore really wanted to be kind to the other filmmakers then he would go on a hunger strike just for that one night at the awards show. You knew a horrible line like that was coming. *smiles and nods* Yikes. Didn't mean it had to come. Anyways, here's Moore's explanation from his website: Monday, September 6th, 2004 Why I Will Not Seek a Best Documentary Oscar (I'm giving it up in the hopes more voters can see "Fahrenheit 9/11") 9/6/04 Dear Friends, I had dinner recently with a well-known pollster who had often worked for Republicans. He told me that when he went to see "Fahrenheit 9/11" he got so distraught he twice had to go out in the lobby and pace during the movie. "The Bush White House left open a huge void when it came to explaining the war to the American people," he told me. "And your film has filled that void -- and now there is no way to defeat it. It is the atomic bomb of this campaign." He told me how he had conducted an informal poll with "Fahrenheit 9/11" audiences in three different cities and the results were all the same. "Essentially, 80% of the people going IN to see your movie are already likely Kerry voters and the movie has galvanized them in a way you rarely see Democrats galvanized. "But, here's the bad news for Bush: Though 80% going IN to your movie are Kerry voters, 100% of those COMING OUT of your movie are Kerry voters. You can't come out of this movie and say, 'I am absolutely and enthusiastically voting for George W. Bush.'" His findings are similar to those in other polls conducted around the country. In Pennsylvania, a Keystone poll showed that 4% of Kerry's support has come from people who decided to vote for him AFTER seeing "Fahrenheit 9/11" -- and in an election that will be very close, 4% is a landslide. A Harris poll found that 44% of Republicans who see the film give it a “positive” rating. Another poll, to be released this week, shows a 21-point shift in Bush's approval rating, after just one viewing of the movie, among audiences of undecideds who were shown "Fahrenheit 9/11" in Ohio. My pollster friend told me that he believes if Kerry wins, "Fahrenheit 9/11" will be one of the top three reasons for his election. Kerry's only problem, he said, is how many people will actually be able to see it before election day. The less that see it, the better for Bush. But 20 million people have already seen it -- and the Gallup poll said that 56% of the American public has seen or plans to see "Fahrenheit 9/11" either in the theater or on home video. The DVD and home video of our film, thanks to our distributors listening to our pleas to release it before November, will be in the stores on October 5. This is very good news. But can it also be shown on TV? I brought this possibility up in this week's Rolling Stone interview. Our contract with our DVD distributor says no, it cannot. I have asked them to show it just once, perhaps the night before the election. So far, no deal. But I haven't given up trying. The only problem with my desire to get this movie in front of as many Americans as possible is that, should it air on TV, I will NOT be eligible to submit "Fahrenheit 9/11" for Academy Award consideration for Best Documentary. Academy rules forbid the airing of a documentary on television within nine months of its theatrical release (fiction films do not have the same restriction). Although I have no assurance from our home video distributor that they would allow a one-time television broadcast -- and the chances are they probably won't -- I have decided it is more important to take that risk and hope against hope that I can persuade someone to put it on TV, even if it's the night before the election. Therefore, I have decided not to submit "Fahrenheit 9/11" for consideration for the Best Documentary Oscar. If there is even the remotest of chances that I can get this film seen by a few million more Americans before election day, then that is more important to me than winning another documentary Oscar. I have already won a Best Documentary statue. Having a second one would be nice, but not as nice as getting this country back in the hands of the majority. The deadline to submit the film for the documentary Oscar was last Wednesday. I told my crew who worked on the film, let's let someone else have that Oscar. We have already helped to ignite the biggest year ever for nonfiction films. Last week, 1 out of every 5 films playing in movie theaters across America was a documentary! That is simply unheard of. There have been so many great nonfiction films this year, why not step aside and share what we have with someone else? Remove the 800-pound gorilla from that Oscar category and let the five films who get nominated have all the attention they deserve (instead of the focus being on a film that has already had more than its share of attention). I've read a lot about "Fahrenheit" being a "sure bet" for the documentary Oscar this year. I don't believe anything is truly a "sure bet." And, in the end, I think sometimes it's good for your soul to give up something everyone says is so easily yours (ask Olympic swimmer Michael Phelps why he gave up his spot in the last race to someone else equally deserving, and you'll know what I am talking about). I have informed our distributors of my decision. They support me (in fact, they then offered to submit our film for all the other categories it is eligible for, including Best Picture -- so, hey, who knows, maybe I'll get to complete that Oscar speech from 2003! Sorry, just kidding). Don't get your hopes up for seeing "Fahrenheit 9/11" on TV before the election. In fact, I would count on NOT seeing it there (you know me, I'm always going after something I probably shouldn't). Get to the theaters soon, if you haven't already, or get it from the video store in October and hold house parties. Share it with everyone you know, especially your nonvoting friends. I have included 100 minutes of extras on the DVD -- powerful footage obtained after we made the movie, and some things that are going to drive Karl Rove into a permanent tailspin -- more on this later! Thanks for all of your support. And go see "Super Size Me," "Control Room," "The Corporation," "Orwell Rolls Over in His Grave," "Bush's Brain," Robert Greenwald's films and the upcoming "Yes Men." You won't be sorry! Yours, Michael Moore [email protected] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted September 7, 2004 If the DVD included a documentary on how Moore twisted the truth to get things to mean what he wants them to mean, as well as how they came up with some of the things that you see in the film (like the famous headline), then I'd think about buying it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Evolution Report post Posted September 7, 2004 Well, knocking F 9/11 out of the competition puts Super Size Me as the heavy favorite, since that's the one that was the only other one close. Right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted September 7, 2004 Well, the first bit's accurate anyway. Michael Moore has said that he will only submit his controversial doco, Fahrenheit 9/11 for consideration in the Best Picture category of the Oscars and not for Best Documentary. Apparently it's a combination of wanting his picture to hang with the big boys and also allowing other worthy documentaries a chance at the top honour. Source: www.theage.com.au HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest croweater Report post Posted September 7, 2004 Apparently "Corporation" is meant to be a fantastic doco. It only came out here recently and I really hope to see it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted September 7, 2004 Somebody sure is sure of himself. There was nothing that says F911 would have won in the doc category to begin with. I'm sorry but if this film gets a nod for Best Picture then Hollywood is more full of crap than I thought possible. Cute little film but no way in hell was it one of the year's five best films. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted September 7, 2004 Now if he was submitting his film for "Best Comedy" then I'd think he have a chance. Ah who the hell am I kidding? Of course Hollywood will give Mikey all their awards. I just pray to God the planners reinforce the stage... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mandarin 0 Report post Posted September 7, 2004 Michael Moore needs to lose to Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted September 7, 2004 They better doubly reinforce that Oscar stage... </lolMoorefatjoke#232> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted September 7, 2004 I wish that Michael Moore Hates America would hit theaters, be nominated, and then win for best documentary. I know that will not happen, but if if did I'd never forget it as long as I live. It would be one of the funniest moments period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cerebus Report post Posted September 7, 2004 While we're in wishing mode I wish Michael Moore released Candian Bacon 3 instead of Farenheit 9/11. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted September 7, 2004 While we're in wishing mode I wish Michael Moore released Candian Bacon 3 instead of Farenheit 9/11. They made a Canadian Bacon 2? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted September 7, 2004 I hope it doesn't even make the cut. If so he'll bury his sorrows deep into a KFC bucket Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted September 7, 2004 While we're in wishing mode I wish Michael Moore released Candian Bacon 3 instead of Farenheit 9/11. He probably ate #2 and #3. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Baron 0 Report post Posted September 7, 2004 I really hope that Super size me wins the best documentary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted September 7, 2004 I really hope that Super size me wins the best documentary. Then they'll send up Moore to receive it. You know, being "super-sized" and all. <Moore fat joke #4,567,498> -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mandarin 0 Report post Posted September 7, 2004 They better doubly reinforce that Oscar stage... </lolMoorefatjoke#232> <Moore fat joke #4,567,498> 4,567,266 Michael Moore fat jokes were made in 4 hours and 58 minutes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ravenbomb 0 Report post Posted September 7, 2004 no, all these jokes have been made already, those were their numbers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kid Kablam Report post Posted September 8, 2004 I don't think he really has any say in where his film gets placed. I mean he's acting like his opinion matters or that he can accept or reject a nomination. This isn't the precidency. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted September 8, 2004 They better doubly reinforce that Oscar stage... </lolMoorefatjoke#232> <Moore fat joke #4,567,498> 4,567,266 Michael Moore fat jokes were made in 4 hours and 58 minutes? About 1.3 billion were made. We're just going down the already available list. The list grows at a rate of 45 jokes per minute, however. What's the difference between Moore and the moon? 3 pounds. <Moore fat joke #8,000,065> I don't think he really has any say in where his film gets placed. I mean he's acting like his opinion matters or that he can accept or reject a nomination. This isn't the precidency. I guess, theoretically, he has the power to get Miramax to not nominate him --- and when he wins (because you KNOW he's going to have them do it regardless), he can claim he didn't want it --- but the Academy wanted to give it to him. I used to think it was tough for Moore's ego to fit in a room --- then I realized his enormous gut is a bigger issue for him. <Moore joke #246> -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted September 8, 2004 They better doubly reinforce that Oscar stage... </lolMoorefatjoke#232> <Moore fat joke #4,567,498> 4,567,266 Michael Moore fat jokes were made in 4 hours and 58 minutes? Link to Michael Moore jokes Here's a pic of Michael Moore taking a shit user posted image Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
