BHK 0 Report post Posted September 21, 2004 Since I more or less stopped watching WCW after the absolutely horrible payoff to Hogan/Sting at Starrcade 97, what are the best and worst Bret Hart matches that I missed? Edit: The only match I've seen is the Owen tribute match. Awesome stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deancoles 0 Report post Posted September 22, 2004 One of his best was against Booker T on a Nitro(which Booker won), I also liked his "match" with Sting on a Nitro in September 98(didn't start but the 2 had a good brawl backstage) His worst was a tag with Hogan against Piper and Randy Savage(whose knee was badly injured) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted September 22, 2004 He had a fun feud with DDP in late 98. I also liked Bret / Booker from BatB 98 despite the lame DQ finish. You have a lot of choices for bad / barely decent matches as Bret was known to go against lower mid-card guys ranging from Disco Inferno to Fit Finley. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iliketurtles 0 Report post Posted September 22, 2004 Even though it's not in his Top Ten best, I'd say his Survivor Series match with HBK is actually pretty good. Sure, everyone was focused on everything other than the match itself, but it's an intense brawl. I don't think Bret's ever had a bad singles match. I mean, I'm talking negative stars. Obviously, if you look at some of the shit WCW put him up against, it might be possible, but I don't think it happened to the point where one of his matches weren't unwatchable. I'd say his worst match was against Sting at Halloween Havoc. You knew Bret wasn't Bret anymore. He never did that shit as a heel in the WWF and he got over 10 times more than in WCW. Bret doesn't have to use weapons to beat his opponent, he just out wrestles them and WCW seemed to not understand that. Then again, a lot of Bret Hart fans think that his career pretty much was over when he left the WWF...so I guess if you are asking Best/Worst Bret WWF Matches: A lot of classics, not many DUDs. Best/Worst WCW Bret Matches: Bret/Benoit Owen Classic (best WCW match, by far)...and a lot of other stuff that was so pointless/bad that I've erased it from my memory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iliketurtles 0 Report post Posted September 22, 2004 And that sig of yours, BHK, is so weird/freaky/sad. Man. Hard to believe, huh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BHK 0 Report post Posted September 22, 2004 And that sig of yours, BHK, is so weird/freaky/sad. Man. Hard to believe, huh? Yeah it is. It's kind of weird to think that 3/5 of the Hart Foundation is dead. I never bothered to go back and watch Bret's WCW stuff because the consenus I got was that WCW misuesed him HORRIBLY and that comparing his WWF run to his WCW one made the latter look like a bad joke. Going back through old PPV results and DDTdiget reports now, solely out of curiosity, I'd have to agree with that assesment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iliketurtles 0 Report post Posted September 22, 2004 It was just stupid shit. I remember him wrestling Disco Inferno, Van Hammer, a bunch of stupid people on TV. I don't think they ever did Bret/Jericho or Bret/Malenko, which is a damn shame. That was one thing Bret agreed with McMahon...and that's when Vince told him he wouldn't make it in WCW because they don't know what to do with Bret Hart because they were so fucking stupid when it came to wrestling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deancoles 0 Report post Posted September 22, 2004 They did do bret/malenko but it ended in a dq. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest krazykat72 Report post Posted September 22, 2004 Even though it's not in his Top Ten best, I'd say his Survivor Series match with HBK is actually pretty good. Sure, everyone was focused on everything other than the match itself, but it's an intense brawl. I don't think Bret's ever had a bad singles match. I mean, I'm talking negative stars. Obviously, if you look at some of the shit WCW put him up against, it might be possible, but I don't think it happened to the point where one of his matches weren't unwatchable. I'd say his worst match was against Sting at Halloween Havoc. You knew Bret wasn't Bret anymore. He never did that shit as a heel in the WWF and he got over 10 times more than in WCW. Bret doesn't have to use weapons to beat his opponent, he just out wrestles them and WCW seemed to not understand that. Then again, a lot of Bret Hart fans think that his career pretty much was over when he left the WWF...so I guess if you are asking Best/Worst Bret WWF Matches: A lot of classics, not many DUDs. Best/Worst WCW Bret Matches: Bret/Benoit Owen Classic (best WCW match, by far)...and a lot of other stuff that was so pointless/bad that I've erased it from my memory. Bret could be great, but I was at a few house shows in the 90's where he absolutely phoned it in. It's actually one of the main reason I prefer Michaels, who worked hard every time I saw him (though there are knocks on him for developing a Bret like habit later in his career) One notable exception was when I saw him and Shawn in the Meadowlands in July of '92, but for the most part, I saw him in some terrible house show matches. I know you're a big fan, but Bret has had plenty of bad singles matches. The Bret Hart video the 2 hour one by Coliseum has a bunch of them on there). He was past his prime going into WCW, but it still boggles the mind at how bad they screwed him up. I'd say the Survivor Series '92 is in his top 10, in fact, I can't think of much to put over it. I liked it more than the DBS match, but less than The WMX, SS '96, WM XIII and I's sure there are a few others, but I doubt I could think of 6 others. -Paul Jacobi- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCMaximo 0 Report post Posted September 22, 2004 I'd just like to add Bret vs "Lightning Foot" Jerry Flynn in a WORLD TITLE DEFENCE as one of Bret's worst WCW matches. How on Earth was Jerry Flynn deemed ready for a title shot and still got to have a competitive match with Bret? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Staravenger Report post Posted September 22, 2004 Bret vs. Sting from Havoc 1998 was just flat out horrible...in a disapointing way. 15 minutes of garbage from a potential ***1/2+ Match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jm29195 Report post Posted September 22, 2004 His worst by far was definetly imo vs Roddy Piper for the US title on Nitro in January 99 I believe- Piper was totally broken down and unmotivated Bret couldn't or wouldn't carry him to anything. His best was vs Benoit in the Owen tribute match but I also liked his match vs Flair at Souled Out 98... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Si82 0 Report post Posted September 23, 2004 Best: vs. Chris Benoit (WCW Monday Nitro 10/99) Worst: vs. Brian Adams (WCW Monday Nitro 3/98) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rrrsh Report post Posted September 26, 2004 They did do bret/malenko but it ended in a dq. And that match wasnt that good due to its length. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites