EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2004 losing 22-0 has to account for a big chunk of that. It accounts for three wins. Remove that and the Yankees become a 92 win squad. and I've tried to avoid this argument, and he's a great player to be sure, but may I say for the record that the Jeter love has reached ridiculous new highs. I knew as soon as he scored that the clutch tag-up would be invented the next morning. My favorite line actually came for Reggie Jackson, "Jeter won't be remembered for hitting .350, he'll be remembered for clutch performance" Reggie Jackson is notorious for that. Not just for Jeter, but for anyone. To Jackson, a game of baseball is all about grit, determination, etc., with these traits determined by how one performs in the heat of the contest. And I would be remiss if I didn't mention that Jackson was a great clutch performer who hit .227/.298/.380 in 163 League Championship Series at bats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Report post Posted October 8, 2004 I more enjoyed it because Jeter has never in his life hit .350 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2004 I more enjoyed it because Jeter has never in his life hit .350 Well, he's hit .349. .339, .311, .324, .314, .324 and has had 3 seasons with over 200 hits. 3 with 190 or more. About .314 in the playoffs with 13 home runs. I'd say he's a more than a good hitter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 8, 2004 The thing that should really worry Yankee fans is that they overperformed their pythagorean record by 12 wins. Contrary to some posters' objections, that DOES have a measure of future performance. They have beat out that meaningless statistic for almost the entire run. Every year from 1994 through the present with the exception of 1997. They've somehow managed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2004 The thing that should really worry Yankee fans is that they overperformed their pythagorean record by 12 wins. Contrary to some posters' objections, that DOES have a measure of future performance. They have beat out that meaningless statistic for almost the entire run. Every year from 1994 through the present with the exception of 1997. They've somehow managed. It's hardly a meaningless statistic. It is a useful predictor of future performance, and it gives you a pretty good idea of where a team is starting from. The Yankees have outperformed it every year since 1998, which I think could be one of three factors. Luck, Mariano Rivera, and/or Joe Torre. In any case, that the margin is 12 wins this season is unusual, and in fact it is the highest figure in baseball season. Of course, George Steinbrenner will hardly rest easy this offseason, so it really does not matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2004 We had some success with a live chat for a Red Sox/Yankees game earlier this season, and given the length of this thread thus far, I will probably run a live chat for tonight's game as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 8, 2004 It's hardly a meaningless statistic. It is a useful predictor of future performance, Just not with this team. ::gasp:: They most know the secret! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2004 It's hardly a meaningless statistic. It is a useful predictor of future performance, Just not with this team. ::gasp:: They most know the secret! Yes. Compile an insanely good record in one run games. The common link with these teams is Mariano Rivera. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 8, 2004 It's hardly a meaningless statistic. It is a useful predictor of future performance, Just not with this team. ::gasp:: They most know the secret! Yes. Compile an insanely good record in one run games. Which is somehow a sign that they're going to sink to the depths of hell? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2004 And I would like to add that anyone who has taken a statistics class knows that the outlier does not negate the rest of the evidence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2004 It's hardly a meaningless statistic. It is a useful predictor of future performance, Just not with this team. ::gasp:: They most know the secret! Yes. Compile an insanely good record in one run games. Which is somehow a sign that they're going to sink to the depths of hell? 89 games is hardly the depths of hell, except to a Yankees fan. But would you expect to run this pitching staff on the field again and expect to win 100 games? Of course not. The Yankees need improvements to maintain their current level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 9, 2004 well... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2004 (edited) Well, time for some baseball. Edited October 9, 2004 by CanadianChris Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 9, 2004 (edited) God damnit. Edited October 9, 2004 by Anglesault Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2004 We do have live chat this evening for those who are interested. Copy and past into your browser.... aim:gochat?roomname=tsmbaseballchat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2004 There's been a change of plans. Due to the overwhelming excitement of the WNBA Finals, that will be our main theme of discussion during the chat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest webmasterofwrestlegame Report post Posted October 9, 2004 Yay! The Angels are out so I get to take out my frustration on the pathetic Yankees pitching! That didn't take long... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iliketurtles 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2004 Let's go Yankees. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 9, 2004 I'd like to get Brown an even bigger lead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2004 This is their third best starter? Five straight hits with two outs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 9, 2004 There's been a change of plans. Due to the overwhelming excitement of the WNBA Finals, that will be our main theme of discussion during the chat. Are the Liberty still in it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2004 Seattle vs Connecticut I believe. Good year for Connecticut, men's and women's national titles, and now WNBA finals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strummer 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2004 could Joe Morgan jack off Jeter anymore? He shouldn't have been charged with an error when he threw the ball in the dugout!! WTF!?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strummer 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2004 wow, the Twins offense is tough to watch sometimes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 9, 2004 Okay, we've got some breathing room. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2004 Go kill em' A-Rod~! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 9, 2004 Niether of those outs were exactly good calls. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2004 CONNECTICUT WINS!!! Whoops...wrong thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2004 Is this the team that ESPN shoves down our throats saying they ALWAYS make good choices? Sheesh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2004 Now Tori Hunter can't catch a break. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
