Impact! spoilers

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I know I'm gonna be in the minority here, but since the beginning, everyone fussed about TNA abandoning storylines midstream, which they haven't done here. This Ladder Match has definitely been building since June. Even with the 2 week old tournament storyline, the only other match that would have made much sense considering the last 6 months of TNA storylines would have been a 3-way with Brown.

 

IMO, the set up is there for them to really sell this match, if they just let Hardy talk. He can talk about upping the ante by having his speciality match, and Jarrett can say that he's not afraid since he won the belt in a "ladder" match. He can also bring in Hall to coach him, being that Hall won the first prominent ladder match, and then Hardy can bring in Nash to counteract him (which would explain them being on different sides). Then they have options at the PPV...then can do the predictable swerve and have the Outsiders have been aligned with Jarrett the whole time, with Nash costing Hardy the match or they can have Hardy take the belt (probably not gonna happen). Meanwhile, they can have Monty win the 3 way with Raven and Abyss to set up the next PPV main event.

 

So in Dec, we have Monty getting built up as a monster babyface by going through Hall and Nash to get to Jarrett and take the belt off of him (and getting made in the casual fans eyes by beating the names), while Hardy can feud with Nash in the "impress the marks" feud that is far away from the title (and maybe even do Hardy/Killings vs the Outsiders at the Dec PPV, so that Killings and Nash can carry the workload).

 

All in all, I'm saying that this is a match that TNA can sell based on the gimmick and all the intrigue with what's going to happen with the Outsiders. I don't think this was a bad decision on there part and it definitely is not indicative of them throwing shit at the wall, which they have done for much of their existence. This match has been building for 6 months and it's not an environment we see Jarrett in much, so the marks will think he actually has a chance of losing, kind of like in the cage match with Styles.

 

Monty's time will come soon. I'm almost 100% positive that he will be the one to dethrone Jarrett. But I think TNA made the right move considering the 4 options they set themselves up with and their storylines for the past 4 months.

That all sounds well and good, but TNA has proven enough times in the past that they can't and won't book a fued like that.

 

Your theory has two problems: first, there's no way Hardy is going to win. If he's been built up for 6 months like you say, its all to lose to Jarrett. There is NO FUCKING CHANCE that Jarrett would drop the title to Hardy. The second problem is this: IF Jarrett DID lose to Hardy (and we're not even going to hope for a clean finish here), its JEFF FUCKING HARDY as the WORLD CHAMPION. If TNA thinks that this kid can carry the company as the champion, they are shitting themselves.

 

Adding the Outsiders to the mix in any form or fashion just takes away attention from the real contenders. I'd like to see Monty win the title, but right now, his main opponents for the title would be either Jarrett or Hardy, and we all know how much they suck. Maybe they won't just job out Raven and Abyss, as they seem to be the only redeeming factors in the main event.

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Your theory has two problems: first, there's no way Hardy is going to win. If he's been built up for 6 months like you say, its all to lose to Jarrett. There is NO FUCKING CHANCE that Jarrett would drop the title to Hardy. The second problem is this: IF Jarrett DID lose to Hardy (and we're not even going to hope for a clean finish here), its JEFF FUCKING HARDY as the WORLD CHAMPION. If TNA thinks that this kid can carry the company as the champion, they are shitting themselves.

 

Adding the Outsiders to the mix in any form or fashion just takes away attention from the real contenders. I'd like to see Monty win the title, but right now, his main opponents for the title would be either Jarrett or Hardy, and we all know how much they suck. Maybe they won't just job out Raven and Abyss, as they seem to be the only redeeming factors in the main event.

 

I agree. Jarrett's most likely not going to job to Hardy. In the scenario I laid out, Jarrett retained the title only to job to Monty at the next PPV, which is honestly where I believe we're headed. And I think after that, we'll see Brown in an extended title feud with Abyss or Raven, while Jarrett and the Outsiders feud with Hardy and most likely 3LK.

 

I think the final build up to Victory Road will be Jarrett saying he's got Hall for back-up (because Hall won the first "big" ladder match) to counteract Hardy being in "his" match. Hardy will says he's got back-up of his own, but he's not letting Jarrett now 'til the PPV. Everybody (most marks) will then wonder who Hardy's gonna bring. He brings in Nash, who doesn't appear til the PPV in a "surprise" for the big pop. When it looks like Hardy's got the title, Nash powerbombs him from the ladder through a table, and hoists Jarrett on his shoulders so he can grab the belt.

 

On the next Impact, Jarrett cuts a promo reminding Hardy he told him to watch he trusted, the Outsiders were with me all along because this is Planet Jarrett blah, blah. Brown interrupts, demands a title shot because he won the 3 way. Jarrett tells him he has to go through his bodyguards, Brown beats Hall one week, Nash the next, but gets a 3-1 beatdown each time with Hardy and 3LK making the save each time. Monty then wins the belt at the 2nd PPV, which will most likely be in Nashville, in front of the fans who first started cheering him in the first place, while Hardy/The Truth face Nash/Hall on the under card. It almost books itself.

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Or Nash will refuse to job to someone as green as Brown, and win the title himself..

[Guest Donners]

That singles match with Taker was't really memorable. It was just Taker kicking the shit out of him for 20 minutes until Jeff got the miracle comeback.

But it was how he took the beating that was most memorable. If he is willing to put his body on the line rather than just sleepwalking through his matches like he has so far in TNA, then he could make it a far more memorable main event than most others on the roster.

 

 

TNA is taking a damned chance with this PPV and it's going to fail miserably.

 

Oh boy, three matches announced - one of which is Styles vs. Williams, and another 20 man match where most of the participants aren't even known - and it's already "going to fail". The beauty of it is that since people have themselves convinced about this already, they will regard it as a failure no matter what happens. Why they are so desperate to believe this is a mystery. With the terrible series of PPVs WWE has put on since WrestleMania, I'd happily try an alternative with an open mind. What a shame that is so difficult for other people.

 

 

TNA sucks- accept it and move on

 

And likewise why they are so desperate to have others conform to their viewpoints is a mystery, not to mention rather pathetic. Perhaps you should accept that not everybody sees things the way you do

[Guest The Decadent Slacker]

My problem is, nothing on the PPV leads me to believe that in this show will break even much less draw. I mean, & i admit my ignorance on the subject, but are there enough WCW marks that still care about Hall & Nash enough to drop possibly $30 to see this show? Enough Attitude marks who want to see Hardy sleepbotch his way through a ladder match? ANY Jarrett marks period? I honestly don't see any real upside to this show or its aftermath. They'll need to build Brown up again, actually USE Raven in a post-Sabu feud since they seem really hesitant to do so, & build up Abyss more to give him some mark credibility (squashing random dudes means jack unless the random dudes have some name to them).

 

That said, i'm happy they seem to be booking toward something, though i don't know how much if any good it will do in the long run, just like popular opinion seems to state.

[Magus 0]

I think the UT vs. Hardy match being watchable has more to do with a veteran like Taker in there doing his thing than any spectacular bumping by Hardy. It was a carry-job. In pro wrestling, getting the shit kicked out of you can be an art form, but that doesn't mean Jeff Hardy is good at it.

 

As for Victory Road, it takes a lot of faith to believe Hardy vs. Jarrett will be anything worth watching. Both are terrible-to-average workers and the booking of the match will cripple it even if the workrate doesn't. Williams vs. Styles is a GOOD MATCH, and I'll admit when TNA puts two good workers in the ring. But as I've said, the booking will step in and show itself no matter how great the workrate is in this match. TNA doesn't respect the X Division title or any X Division worker not named AJ Styles. And when has TNA ever had a good Gauntlet match (except for that one that Raven won)? They never announce all the participants, there are always lame surprises, and its never as good as it could/should be because TNA holds back the X Division workers. So yes, TNA sucks, even if you don't think so.

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But it was how he took the beating that was most memorable. If he is willing to put his body on the line rather than just sleepwalking through his matches like he has so far in TNA, then he could make it a far more memorable main event than most others on the roster.

 

But this Jeff Hardy. Why would he kill himself for TNA and for Jeff Jarrett? He's so broken down- you're not getting TLC Jeff Hardy. You're getting 2004 Jeff Hardy.

 

Jeff Hardy is horrible.

 

Oh boy, three matches announced - one of which is Styles vs. Williams, and another 20 man match where most of the participants aren't even known - and it's already "going to fail".

 

Styles v. Williams well sell 0 buys.

A 20 man gauntlet will sell 0 boys.

Jeff Hardy v. Jeff Jarrett will sell to girls living in the past and idiots who think Hardy is back in 2000 form.

 

The beauty of it is that since people have themselves convinced about this already, they will regard it as a failure no matter what happens. Why they are so desperate to believe this is a mystery. With the terrible series of PPVs WWE has put on since WrestleMania, I'd happily try an alternative with an open mind. What a shame that is so difficult for other people.

 

The show is going to fail. WWE can barely get anyone to pay for a PPV featuring names like Triple H, Chris Benoit and Ric Flair.

 

TNA has Jeff Hardy and Jeff Jarrett. TNA has a glorified midcard match for a split brand PPV with a ladder name attached.

 

It's like Christian v. Chris Jericho but without the good feud, the hype, overness of the wrestlers and the chance of a good match.

 

 

And likewise why they are so desperate to have others conform to their viewpoints is a mystery, not to mention rather pathetic. Perhaps you should accept that not everybody sees things the way you do

 

It's just sad seeing you justify and defend TNA when they are clearly self destructinh.

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And Rudy Charles completely fucked up the final main event spot .