U.K. paper to Ohio voters: Listen to us!!!!!!

[Guest GreatOne]

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Hell maybe THIS is what Kerry meant by 'global test' I don't know.....................

[Guest Cerebus]

Thank God I don't live there. Most likely I'd be getting more junk mail from both parties. I wouldn't want to add letters from some snooty European lefties along with them.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

I hope they do. Nothing will insure Bush wins this state more than a bunch of Europeans trying to tell people who to vote for.

[teke184 0]

I hope they do. Nothing will insure Bush wins this state more than a bunch of Europeans trying to tell people who to vote for.

Posters at Little Green Footballs have been hijacking the Guardian's voter list so that they either keep someone from being sent a message or, alternately, say that they got their list from foreigners who want to tell them how to vote.

 

 

I'm surprised that no one has sent a Cease And Desist to the Guardian for attempting to interfere in a US election.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

This is the first that I had heard of it so I doubt they've really made any kind of impact. Like I said if they did it'll piss people off and they'll vote for Bush because of it.

[therealworldschampion 0]

This is the first that I had heard of it so I doubt they've really made any kind of impact. Like I said if they did it'll piss people off and they'll vote for Bush because of it

 

Good. If Europeans are so concerned about who wins the election, then they should move here, become citizens, and then vote like everyone else does. I'm so tired of the European belly-aching over the election.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

Thank God I don't live there. Most likely I'd be getting more junk mail from both parties. I wouldn't want to add letters from some snooty European lefties along with them.

It's been horrible. I had to basically wrap the house in Bush/Cheney stuff to get the Kerry/Edwards people to leave us alone.

[Guest MikeSC]

The Guardian has printed some of the responses they have received from the states:

Dear Limey assholes

 

Last week G2 launched Operation Clark County to help readers have a say in the American election by writing to undecided voters in the crucial state of Ohio. In the first three days, more than 11,000 people requested addresses. Here is some of the reaction to the project that we received from the US

 

Monday October 18, 2004

The Guardian

 

Dear wonderful, loving friends from abroad,

We Ohioans are an ornery sort and don't take meddling well, even if it comes from people we admire and with their sincere goodwill. We are a fairly closed community overall. In my town of Springfield, I feel that there are some that consider people from the nearby cities of Columbus or Dayton, as "foreigners"- let alone someone from outside our country.

Springfield, Ohio

 

Have you not noticed that Americans don't give two shits what Europeans think of us? Each email someone gets from some arrogant Brit telling us why to NOT vote for George Bush is going to backfire, you stupid, yellow-toothed pansies ... I don't give a rat's ass if our election is going to have an effect on your worthless little life. I really don't. If you want to have a meaningful election in your crappy little island full of shitty food and yellow teeth, then maybe you should try not to sell your sovereignty out to Brussels and Berlin, dipshit. Oh, yeah - and brush your goddamned teeth, you filthy animals.

Wading River, NY

 

Right on! Just wanted to say thanks from California for your effort and concern. This IS a very important election ... There are so many people here in the States that care about the impact America has on the rest of the world. I am personally saddened for the loss of all innocent lives. The best statement Americans can make to the rest of the world is to not elect Bush for president. Thank you so much for getting involved in our world.

California

 

Consider this: stay out of American electoral politics. Unless you would like a company of US Navy Seals - Republican to a man - to descend upon the offices of the Guardian, bag the lot of you, and transport you to Guantanamo Bay, where you can share quarters with some lonely Taliban shepherd boys.

United States

 

I am a student and life-long resident of Clark County, Ohio. I just wanted you to know that this is a wonderful idea you've initiated; people here love and respect the United Kingdom, especially the prime minister. I hope this campaign will be successful for your newspaper and for us voters.

Springfield, Ohio

 

KEEP YOUR FUCKIN' LIMEY HANDS OFF OUR ELECTION. HEY, SHITHEADS, REMEMBER THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR? REMEMBER THE WAR OF 1812? WE DIDN'T WANT YOU, OR YOUR POLITICS HERE, THAT'S WHY WE KICKED YOUR ASSES OUT. FOR THE 47% OF YOU WHO DON'T WANT PRESIDENT BUSH, I SAY THIS ... TOUGH SHIT!

PROUD AMERICAN VOTING FOR BUSH!

 

Shame on you for using the people of Ohio like this. The US presidental election isn't just about foreign policy, it's about healthcare, taxes, education, transportation, natural resources and all manner of issues with little to no impact on the people of Britain.

 

We live in a globalised, interconnected world. If China shuts its borders to US imports, you better believe American companies, shareholders and workers are affected. Should US citizens therefore have a direct say in Chinese policies? No - Americans should demand that their own elected leaders address the issues with their Chinese counterparts. The British have a similar voice in US policies - through your own elected representatives who have any number of diplomatic, economic and military tools at their disposal. You vote for your leaders and we'll vote for ours. Your problem is with your leaders, not ours.

Washington DC

 

Real Americans aren't interested in your pansy-ass, tea-sipping opinions. If you want to save the world, begin with your own worthless corner of it.

Texas, USA

 

Thank you, thank you, thank you! What a wonderful idea! I am a US citizen who is scared to death that Bush and Klan will get back in. We need all the help we can get to ditch this bunch of maniacs.

United States

 

I just read a hilarious proposal to involve your readership in the upcoming US presidential election. At least, I'm hoping that it is genius satire. Nothing will do more to undermine the Democratic cause in Ohio than having patronising Brits wander around Clark County telling people how to vote. Just, for a second, imagine if the Washington Post sent folks from Ohio to do the same in Oxfordshire. I'm saying this as a Democrat, and as someone who has spent the last few years in the UK. That is, with all due respect. Please, please, be rational, and move slowly away from the self-defeating hubris.

United States

 

I enjoy reading your paper and agree with your politics, but this is really too much.Your plan, if carried out, will hurt the Bush opposition TERRIBLY. We cannot afford to have this associated with John Kerry or anyone else. It will be; the press is going in for a kill, days before the election.

United States

 

Your idea is superb and frankly, we need a little help over here right now.

Ohio

 

My dear, beloved Brits,

I understand the Guardian is sponsoring a service where British citizens write to Americans to advise them on how to vote. Thank heavens! I was adrift in a sea of confusion and you are my beacon of hope!

 

Feel free to respond to this email with your advice. Please keep in mind that I am something of an anglophile, so this is not confrontational. Please remember, too, that I am merely an American. That means I am not very bright. It means I have no culture or sense of history. It also means that I am barely literate, so please don't use big, fancy words.

 

Set me straight, folks!

Dayton, Ohio

 

Hey England, Scotland and Wales,

Mind your own business. We don't need weenie-spined Limeys meddling in our presidental election. If it wasn't for America, you'd all be speaking German. And if America would have had a president, then, of the likes of Kerry, you'd all be goose-stepping around Buckingham Palace. YOU ARE NOT WANTED!! Whether you want to support either party. BUTT OUT!!!

United States

 

Please be advised that I have forwarded this to the CIA and FBI.

United States

 

As an American who is very anti-Bush, I applaud your letter-writing campaign. I have read some of the letters that you published, and while I agree with most of the content, I also believe they will not be persuasive. This is because they are too aggressive and, as stated on your website, you don't know anything about these voters. If they happen to be leaning toward Bush, these letters will not put them off.

New York

 

THE AMERICAN TAXPAYERS HAVE SPENT TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS PROTECTING THE PEOPLES OF THE EU, AND WHAT DO WE GET IN RETURN. BETRAYAL, BETRAYAL, BETRAYAL. I HAVE BEEN TO YOUR COUNTRY, THE COUNTRY OF MY ANCESTORS, AND I KNOW WHY THEY LEFT.

 

MAY YOU HAVE TO HAVE A TOOTH CAPPED. I UNDERSTAND IT TAKES AT LEAST 18 MONTHS FOR YOUR GREAT MEDICAL SERVICES TO GET AROUND TO YOU. HAVE A GREAT DAY.

Harlan, Kentucky

 

We all enjoyed this at work. Cheers.

United States

 

Thank you for taking such an active interest in the elections here in America. I appreciate what the Guardian is doing. Your effort to reach out to "swing states" and make a difference is commendable. I hope that many of your readers will take your challenge to help make a change in Washington by contacting voters.

Clarke County, Georgia

 

Keep your noses out of our business. As I recall we kicked your asses out of our country back in 1776. We do not require input from losers and idiots on who we vote for in our own country. Fuck off and die asshole!!!!!

Knoxville, Iowa

 

Gentle folks at the Guardian,

In your plea to get your non-American readers to write to voters in Clark County, Iowa, you are correct that events in the US have had, and will have, effects on world events. For example, we have pulled your chestnuts out of the fire in two world wars that were occasioned by European diplomacy. Maybe you'd like a vote in which American president will oversee the next rescue. The next time you have elections in Great Britain, I shall endeavour to send names of your citizens to people in France, Iraq, India, the United Arab Emirates, Botswana, Pakistan, China and Argentina so that they may attempt to influence your election. It's only fair that everybody in the world should have a say in the selection of the prime minister.

California

 

Mind your own flipping business.

United States

 

Dear Guardian folks,

While I empathise with your plight, this attempt to influence voters by sending letters from foreigners will have a negative effect on your ultimate goal. You will cause people to empathise with the president, not the other way around. People will read these letters and say, "John Le who? Never heard of him, but who is he to tell me who to vote for?"

Ohio

 

I am a registered voter in Clark County, Ohio, and am very much interested in hearing what our overseas friends have to say about our election. You are correct in assuming that this election in the US is the most important election in memory. The threat of terrorism is a very real threat, not just in our country, but all over the world. In this day and age there must be worldwide unity against these fanatical groups who just hate. Not just Americans, but all western civilisation.

United States

 

Thanks for running this initiative. It may be the only way I get to have an impact on the American election, despite the fact that I'm a registered American voter. See, I vote in New York, which is solidly Democratic. Due to the electoral college system, once a majority is secured in any state, subsequent votes don't really matter. Whether NY goes 51% or 99%, the impact on who actually wins is the same. So thanks for the opportunity to impact somebody else's vote, where it may really matter.

Amsterdam, Holland

 

Who in the hell do you think you are??? Well, I'll tell you, you're a bunch of meddling socialist pricks! Stay the hell out of our country and politics. And another thing, John Kerry is a worthless lying sack of crap so it doesn't surprise me that a socialist rag like yours would back him. I hope your cynical ploy blows up in your cowardly faces, you bunch of mealy-mouthed morons!

United States

 

I used to visit the UK every year. I love the history and culture of your country. But after I heard about your campaign to influence our elections, I've decided that neither myself, nor my family will ever visit again. I'm offended by your campaign and because of it, I'm remembering more of the negative aspects I've seen in the UK than the positive ones. Though I still love the castles!

Detroit

 

Dear British friends,

I think you have an interesting idea to encourage international grassroots efforts, but I sincerely doubt most Springfielders are going to be influenced by letters from a country they probably can't even point to on a map. I wish you luck with your campaign, but I warn you that you're not likely to accomplish much.

Dayton, Ohio

 

You radical leftwingers are worse than the Taliban. I suggest you stand back and take a good hard look at yourselves.

 

PS: When do you propose to add Michael Moore to your staff of lunatics?

United States

 

I suggest that if a particular reader of the Guardian would like to vote in America - would really like to influence the American election, say - that reader should move to America, become a citizen of the United States. Everyone is welcome here. Even the readers of the Guardian. But if you don't wish to be an American, to live in Ohio, for instance, and participate in the American political process, that is too bad. Perhaps there is something wrong with you. Perhaps it is your teeth.

New York

 

Go back to sipping your tea and leave our people alone.

Ohio

 

As an American who is afraid of the terrible ramifications if Bush is elected, I commend your efforts to try to get Britons involved. Although many Americans would be critical of British people "meddling" with our politics and elections, all the world will share in the disaster if Bush is re-elected. Many of us are very concerned. I teach young adults, most of whom have been very uninvolved in voting and politics. Many of them are going to vote. We need all the help we can get.

United States

 

As a US citizen, I want to advise you that you and anyone that participates in subverting the US presidential election can be criminally charged and perhaps even charged as spies.

California

 

Thank God above for you English! Just when I was beginning to despair at the thought of Bush being re-elected, you come along with a strategy to help us! Your invitation to your readership and rationale for offering it are provocative at the least, and laudable at best.

Springfield, Ohio

-=Mike

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

Each email someone gets from some arrogant Brit telling us why to NOT vote for George Bush is going to backfire, you stupid, yellow-toothed pansies ...

 

Gold.....

 

I'm hoping I get one so I can tell them to go fuck themselves.

[Hogan Made Wrestling 0]

Some of those letters are hilarious in their stupidity, on both sides. If these are the sorts of people voting in the election, should people really be worrying about Puffy's "Vote or Die" campaign bringing out the uninformed voters? Because it seems there's plenty of them already.

[Guest MikeSC]

Some of those letters are hilarious in their stupidity, on both sides. If these are the sorts of people voting in the election, should people really be worrying about Puffy's "Vote or Die" campaign bringing out the uninformed voters? Because it seems there's plenty of them already.

I suspect that the angry reactions are just the ones that are borne from outsiders trying to interfere in an election.

 

I still think one of the things that helped Howard in Australia was Kerry's sister's idiotic speech. People resent foreigners butting into their elections directly and publicly.

-=Mike

[Hogan Made Wrestling 0]

Some of those letters are hilarious in their stupidity, on both sides. If these are the sorts of people voting in the election, should people really be worrying about Puffy's "Vote or Die" campaign bringing out the uninformed voters? Because it seems there's plenty of them already.

I suspect that the angry reactions are just the ones that are borne from outsiders trying to interfere in an election.

 

I still think one of the things that helped Howard in Australia was Kerry's sister's idiotic speech. People resent foreigners butting into their elections directly and publicly.

-=Mike

True, but the ones mentioning shit like Navy Seals and the CIA (as if they give a damn) are s =o far out there you can't help but laugh at them.

[Guest GreatOne]

So?

 

The Guardian sheep deserve what they get, 'moronic' as it is

[Guest Cerebus]

Interesting that few of the letters saying this was a dumb idea weren't laden with profanity, crude insults and steryotypes, and dumb comments.

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

I still think one of the things that helped Howard in Australia was Kerry's sister's idiotic speech. People resent foreigners butting into their elections directly and publicly.

 

In Canada we were so pissed off with it (largely with France interfering on behalf of Quebec seperatists) that we made it illegal.

[Guest BDC]

I still think one of the things that helped Howard in Australia was Kerry's sister's idiotic speech. People resent foreigners butting into their elections directly and publicly.

 

In Canada we were so pissed off with it (largely with France interfering on behalf of Quebec seperatists) that we made it illegal.

How the hell is it NOT in this country?

[2GOLD 0]

I still think one of the things that helped Howard in Australia was Kerry's sister's idiotic speech. People resent foreigners butting into their elections directly and publicly.

 

In Canada we were so pissed off with it (largely with France interfering on behalf of Quebec seperatists) that we made it illegal.

How the hell is it NOT in this country?

 

Have you SEEN our voting system? I'm shocked one of the requirements to vote is to be alive.

[Dr. Tom 0]

Considering the number of dead people who somehow manage to vote in every election, that requirement seems somewhat less than stringent.

 

BTW, "weenie-spined" had me laughing for several minutes.

[Guest MikeSC]

Considering the number of dead people who somehow manage to vote in every election, that requirement seems somewhat less than stringent.

 

BTW, "weenie-spined" had me laughing for several minutes.

Hell, we know right now that there are approximately 40,000 more eligible voters in Philadelphia than there are people over the age of 18. There are 112,000 officially listed as "inactive" voters --- but to remove them from voting rolls would take up to 5 years.

-=Mike

[tommytomlin 0]

Some of those letters are hilarious in their stupidity, on both sides. If these are the sorts of people voting in the election, should people really be worrying about Puffy's "Vote or Die" campaign bringing out the uninformed voters? Because it seems there's plenty of them already.

I suspect that the angry reactions are just the ones that are borne from outsiders trying to interfere in an election.

 

I still think one of the things that helped Howard in Australia was Kerry's sister's idiotic speech. People resent foreigners butting into their elections directly and publicly.

-=Mike

Considering how little publicity that got in Australia - no, it didn't.

[CheesalaIsGood 0]

^ Whoops!