Bored 0 Report post Posted October 18, 2004 Hey this has turned into a "my conferene is better than your conference debate." I'm SHOCKED! Anyways only thing I'll say is how many bowl teams a conference has doesn't mean much since they are pre-determined. Conference USA has six bowl bids this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted October 18, 2004 Texas is ALWAYS overrated, and I'll never change my stance until they beat Oklahoma and make a BCS bowl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 18, 2004 Well I don't think they have been really. I think they just get beat down by a team that is just obviously better than them and is generally better than most if not all of the country. They only PLAY one good team a year and get their asses handed to them when they do. A more overrated team does not exist. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted October 18, 2004 As a side note, Mike and I agreed on something, folks. Behold the power of sports. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted October 18, 2004 Well I don't think they have been really. I think they just get beat down by a team that is just obviously better than them and is generally better than most if not all of the country. They only PLAY one good team a year and get their asses handed to them when they do. A more overrated team does not exist. -=Mike BYU from several seasons ago and the Nebraska team that went to the National Title game over Colorado and Oregon are the only teams that come to mind. And Notre Dame every year. Voters look for any reason to throw them into the top 25. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2004 Well Texas can't really help it that they play OU.....the Big XII can't really help it. The only team to consistently be able to take OU on is OSU. And on top of that Texas does play OSU every year and wins every year. And OSU last year was a good team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2004 In other news, Pitt can still win the Big East and go to a BCS boll Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2004 Notre Dame has one of the hardest schedules in the country every year, that's why they can get into the Top 25 easier than other teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GreatOne Report post Posted October 19, 2004 I'm shocked that anybody mentioned WSU and pounding somebody in the same sentence. If this is last year with the defense from hell, the 97 or 02 teams, sure. This one, not on your life. I have better faith in Koren Robinson catching 10 passes in a row. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2004 In other news, Pitt can still win the Big East and go to a BCS boll You're typo monster in the last 30 minutes. Ha ha! Whoever the Big East sends to the BCS is going to get ripped. Yuck. And: Notre Dame has one of the hardest schedules in the country every year, that's why they can get into the Top 25 easier than other teams. That's correct. And they're what now, 5-2? Wins over Michigan, Stanford, Navy - not bad at all. Floating in the last few spots of the poll is fine by me with that sort of setup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GreatOne Report post Posted October 19, 2004 And they also fulfilled my prediction I made LAST year by assraping UW, so they're just fine with me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2004 Well Texas can't really help it that they play OU.....the Big XII can't really help it. They could try scheduling some decent teams in their nonconference schedule. North Texas, Rice and Arkansas sure isn't a murderer's row. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GreatOne Report post Posted October 19, 2004 I believe Ohio State's on the schedule next year. They did have Virginia a few years back, and Arkansas did beat them last year............... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2004 I'm shocked that anybody mentioned WSU and pounding somebody in the same sentence. If this is last year with the defense from hell, the 97 or 02 teams, sure. This one, not on your life. I have better faith in Koren Robinson catching 10 passes in a row. Defense from hell in 02? That defense that let OU with that piece of trash Nate Hybl as QB put 34 up against them in the Rose Bowl? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GreatOne Report post Posted October 19, 2004 Did I say defense from hell in 02, Oklahomer? Re-read: If this is last year with the defense from hell, the 97 or 02 teams, (separate fucking statements) sure. This one, not on your life. I have better faith in Koren Robinson catching 10 passes in a row. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2004 You act like it's an insult to say Oklahomer. Yes I'm from Oklahoma and yes I am bias towards my team. What's your point? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GreatOne Report post Posted October 19, 2004 So you just completely blew that one. Good of you to admit it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2004 Eh whatever. I only read half of what you say b/c the other half is trolling and flamebaiting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GreatOne Report post Posted October 19, 2004 Pot meet kettle, notice the color................. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2004 I don't troll anyone. I support my team. I cheer for my team. I go into a thread and say that I don't agree with Iggy's rankings. You go into that thread and bring up OU when I said NOTHING about them. Then when I try to explain what I said had nothing to do with OU you tell me that you're trying to get me into my "midseason form". Basically telling me that you want me to start yelling and causing trouble. That's trolling. I have never followed you into a thread and tried to incite you. You however enter college FB threads and call me names and try to get me to fly off the handle. So yes you are trolling and I am not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GreatOne Report post Posted October 19, 2004 If by supporting and cheering your team you mean going into AngleSault mode then I suppose you're right................. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Secret Agent 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2004 Whats wrong with supporting OU? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2004 Ohio State/Texas is very interesting to me. I can't wait to see that next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2004 A couple things. First, as some who goes to WSU, don't use them as an example of anything representative of a good team. They're probably about 8th in the Pac-10 this year, and could easily go 4-7. The only plus is that a healthy Brink is a little bit better at QB than the gimpy Josh Swogger we've had limping around for the last few weeks, and Swogger's now officially out for the season. Now, as for the Big XII, they're still terrible. Not one team in the whole conference has a non-conference win over a team with a vote in the last coaches poll, but a couple of the "good" teams still found time to lose to Troy and New Mexico of all teams. The conference is a fraud, and if a team like Miami or Auburn did manage to go undefeated through an entire difficult conference slate, they probably would deserve to go to the Orange Bowl over OU. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2004 The only team to consistently be able to take OU on is OSU. Ahem Anyways, I think this has gotten way off topic. The subject here shouldn't "Which conference roolz/suxs" but rather that we can all hopefully agree that the BCS blows a fat one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Secret Agent 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2004 Now, as for the Big XII, they're still terrible. Not one team in the whole conference has a non-conference win over a team with a vote in the last coaches poll, but a couple of the "good" teams still found time to lose to Troy and New Mexico of all teams. The conference is a fraud, and if a team like Miami or Auburn did manage to go undefeated through an entire difficult conference slate, they probably would deserve to go to the Orange Bowl over OU. First off, those games are scheduled far in advance. How are they suppose to know whos on the coaches poll when those games are made? Not their fault. Besides, look at Miami; Houston, Georgia Tech, Lousania Tech, Clemson... Miami doesn't exactly play all top 25 teams either. Secondly, the last time OU was at the Orange Bowl they played a team in that "entirely difficult" conferance slate and it was a blow out of Florida. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GreatOne Report post Posted October 19, 2004 Um when knocking Miami's OOC schedule prob not a good idea to use two CONFERENCE teams................... as some who goes to WSU, don't use them as an example of anything representative of a good team. They're probably about 8th in the Pac-10 this year, and could easily go 4-7. I've never experienced in my lifetime an Apple Cup where BOTH Wazzu and UW were crap.......until this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted October 19, 2004 A couple things. First, as some who goes to WSU, don't use them as an example of anything representative of a good team. They're probably about 8th in the Pac-10 this year, and could easily go 4-7. The only plus is that a healthy Brink is a little bit better at QB than the gimpy Josh Swogger we've had limping around for the last few weeks, and Swogger's now officially out for the season. I wasn't trying to say they were good. I was saying I would take them over a lot of the teams in the Big XII right now. That's how bad half of the teams are right now. First off, those games are scheduled far in advance. How are they suppose to know whos on the coaches poll when those games are made? Not their fault. Besides, look at Miami; Houston, Georgia Tech, Lousania Tech, Clemson... Miami doesn't exactly play all top 25 teams either. Clemson and Georgia Tech are confernece teams and Louisville was a top 25 team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted October 19, 2004 If Auburn especially goes undefeated, they deserve to play for the championship. They'd have beaten LSU, Tennessee, and Georgia all in the same season, not to mention an otherwise good conference. Oklahoma can't say that. It shouldn't matter about "when the schedules were made" or some extraneous factor like that. If Team A plays and beats better teams than Team B in the year 2004, they're more deserving of playing for the championship that year. Until they make a playoff, the setup will suck. Period. Don't want to lose ad dollars? Make the last 7 games or whatever the bowls, with the championship bowl rotating like it does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bigm350 Report post Posted October 19, 2004 I think Michigan is underrated. If they beat Purdue, which they should, they should crack the top 10. IMO, Michigan should already be in the Top 10, not 13 in both polls. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites