Championship question

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

This is what I feel the company really did here with the title lineages. They merged the wcw titles with the wwf counterparts in 2001 plain and simple. The problem comes with all the marlarky surrounding it. WCW was killed at Survivor Series 3 years ago, but the wcw title was defunct and to fix the situation Vince re-named the title "the world title" which is what Triple H is wearing now. Vince was allowed to do this since he "won" the battle for survival between the wrestling companies(and historically the wwe title was a regional title and wcw had the world title lineage*yes I know the whole mess there, but I think they unified the title between Sting/Flair in 94 around Hogan's arrival). In reality he can do this. You see even the "tv show" gives the explanation if they bother to follow through on it. Jericho held TWO titles because he was carrying two world championships at the time. Triple H even wore the same damn title when he became champion at WM 18. Flair awarded him a NEW BELT to represent the two titles on raw and smackdown(another attempt to make Triple H the undeniable superstar champion).

 

The belt was traded back and forth until Brock Lesnar took the title from The Rock. Triple H WAS the #1 contender of ALL WWE(that is how they were doing it in the prior months switching contenders between raw and smackdown) and Brock did not defend the title against Triple H causing a dispute.  Brock went to smackdown, but as someone stated both promotions are still under the wwe umbrella. Now remember the undisputed title is actually two championships, but there was one belt representing it. Eric Bischofff brought back one half of the title to raw and handed it to Triple H and was able to do so under wwe law because he was the #1 contender of all wwe. Remember Taker went to smackdown and had to win a #1 contender's match to get a title shot against Brock Lesnar on smackdown. Triple H was the real #1 contender to said title. Once that title became stripped of its world championship status it needed its own #1 contender.

 

Now, to make Triple H's title have some credibility they had to link it to the lineage it had with Ric Flair and wcw/nwa. That is a reason why Flair was the first contender on its re-instatement. That is why they used pieces on Confidential to sell the credibility of the title along with merging the IC title with it in case people saw it as inferior to the traditional secondary title(remember it was rumoured that title was going to be given to Trips?). All this came off as confusing, but the fact is Trips' title is the world title from wcw/nwa. The reason being that the umbrella wwe owns the damn title to begin with. They use the same marketing with the cruiserweight and US titles and as someone said differentiate not to confuse fans by breaking up the different era of said titles. It all goes back to the purchase of wcw. Anyone thinks Vince would have a US title or World title ibeing promoted if he didn't buy wcw? He would just make up his own new title names like the European title or Lightheavyweight title(which is another sore eye with the J Crown just keeping the damn thing for decades*in North America the cruiserweight title is more respected along with the US title over the European title).

Except the fact that the WWE- oh I'm not going to bother. I said it already. If people choose to ignore it, that's their right. They're just wasting breath IMO. Carry on.

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

Also witness the Booker/HHH feud leading into Wrestlemania XIX where it is stated that Booker never had HHH's title.

[Promoter 0]

This is what I feel the company really did here with the title lineages. They merged the wcw titles with the wwf counterparts in 2001 plain and simple. The problem comes with all the marlarky surrounding it. WCW was killed at Survivor Series 3 years ago, but the wcw title was defunct and to fix the situation Vince re-named the title "the world title" which is what Triple H is wearing now. Vince was allowed to do this since he "won" the battle for survival between the wrestling companies(and historically the wwe title was a regional title and wcw had the world title lineage*yes I know the whole mess there, but I think they unified the title between Sting/Flair in 94 around Hogan's arrival). In reality he can do this. You see even the "tv show" gives the explanation if they bother to follow through on it. Jericho held TWO titles because he was carrying two world championships at the time. Triple H even wore the same damn title when he became champion at WM 18. Flair awarded him a NEW BELT to represent the two titles on raw and smackdown(another attempt to make Triple H the undeniable superstar champion).

 

The belt was traded back and forth until Brock Lesnar took the title from The Rock. Triple H WAS the #1 contender of ALL WWE(that is how they were doing it in the prior months switching contenders between raw and smackdown) and Brock did not defend the title against Triple H causing a dispute.  Brock went to smackdown, but as someone stated both promotions are still under the wwe umbrella. Now remember the undisputed title is actually two championships, but there was one belt representing it. Eric Bischofff brought back one half of the title to raw and handed it to Triple H and was able to do so under wwe law because he was the #1 contender of all wwe. Remember Taker went to smackdown and had to win a #1 contender's match to get a title shot against Brock Lesnar on smackdown. Triple H was the real #1 contender to said title. Once that title became stripped of its world championship status it needed its own #1 contender.

 

Now, to make Triple H's title have some credibility they had to link it to the lineage it had with Ric Flair and wcw/nwa. That is a reason why Flair was the first contender on its re-instatement. That is why they used pieces on Confidential to sell the credibility of the title along with merging the IC title with it in case people saw it as inferior to the traditional secondary title(remember it was rumoured that title was going to be given to Trips?). All this came off as confusing, but the fact is Trips' title is the world title from wcw/nwa. The reason being that the umbrella wwe owns the damn title to begin with. They use the same marketing with the cruiserweight and US titles and as someone said differentiate not to confuse fans by breaking up the different era of said titles. It all goes back to the purchase of wcw. Anyone thinks Vince would have a US title or World title ibeing promoted if he didn't buy wcw? He would just make up his own new title names like the European title or Lightheavyweight title(which is another sore eye with the J Crown just keeping the damn thing for decades*in North America the cruiserweight title is more respected along with the US title over the European title).

Except the fact that the WWE- oh I'm not going to bother. I said it already. If people choose to ignore it, that's their right. They're just wasting breath IMO. Carry on.

I know what you said. However, how the wwe records things and how things actually go down can be different. You know like how they never acknowledged stuff like Bob Backlund losing the wwwf title outside of North America? There is a reason why they have taken off title histories off their website. As I said confusion. As for the Booker/HHH program it would have nullified Triple H's title by him acknowledging Booker wore the same title he was parading around with. He ran down wcw, yet he was wearing the same belt Booker wore. There is a reason why he had the title belt changed to a smaller scale version to differentiate the perception.

[Precious Roy 0]

I've never seen so much revisionist history in my life.

 

WWE = communist Russia

[Promoter 0]

I've never seen so much revisionist history in my life.

 

WWE = communist Russia

Revisionist history is Vince's brainchild

 

If anyone remembers the 1992 SummerSlam promo would know that the wwe was responsible for the Wall coming down in Germany too.

[Hoff 0]

Like Czech said, you can argue this either way until you're blue. But what it comes down to is this: Triple H was HANDED the Raw World Title. He didn't wrestle for it; it was given to him just for being H. He admittedly defended it on the same night, but still. To me, that makes it worth a little less.

[Promoter 0]

Well, just don't bring a sign to a wwe event saying that or you know what will happen.