Guest Failed Mascot Report post Posted December 12, 2004 7-5 gets you into a bowl easily. But which bowl? The "I Can't Believe Its Not Butter" Dairy Bowl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UZI Suicide 0 Report post Posted December 12, 2004 Notre Dame's expectations aren't on par with reality. Their recruting standards will not allow them to stay on the same level as the USC's and Oklahoma's of the world, so to blame Willingham is stupid. Any coach who goes there is handcuffed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nogoodnick 0 Report post Posted December 13, 2004 I don't buy that excuse anymore. If a program like Cal can go 10-1 then so can Notre Dame. Berkely is one of the hardest schools in the counrty to get into and they've been quite successful. I would assume that they hold their athletes to higher standards as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UZI Suicide 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2004 I don't buy that excuse anymore. If a program like Cal can go 10-1 then so can Notre Dame. Berkely is one of the hardest schools in the counrty to get into and they've been quite successful. I would assume that they hold their athletes to higher standards as well. The reason for Cal's success is they heavily recruit Junior College's. That is where Aaron Rodgers and JJ Arrington came from. Without that they would be average. ND does not recruit Junior Colleges. Thats one of the things Urban Meyer wanted them to change if he was going to coach there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spicy McHaggis 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2004 Kotz, you're talking out of your ass. ND has had 15 coaches with tenures of 3 years or less. They have fired coaches in the middle of contracts, including TW's predecessor, Bob Davie, who was canned in the third year of a five-year contract extension. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites