Bored 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2004 Bowl season kicks off tommorrow night, all be it the only game this week. This thread will just be for general bowl discussion to talk about upcoming games and make in game comments. If there is a bowl game you feel will deserve it's own thread feel free to make one although I'd advise waiting at least until a couple of days before the game. Now there are two bowl threads already created for the Orange Bowl and Rose Bowl. The Orange Bowl thread is currently closed and will remain so until the day of the game. You can read why in the thread but please don't discuss it here. Here is the full television schedule for the bowls. Tuesday, December 14 New Orleans: North Texas vs. Southern Miss, 7:30/4:30 PM, ESPN Tuesday, December 21 Tangerine: Syracuse vs. Georgia Tech, 7:45/4:45 PM, ESPN Wednesday, December 22 GMAC: Memphis vs. Bowling Green, 8:00/5:00 PM, ESPN Thursday, December 23 Fort Worth: Cincinnati vs. Marshall, 6:30/3:30 PM, ESPN Las Vegas: UCLA vs. Wyoming, 9:45/6:45 PM, ESPN Friday, December 24 Hawaii: UAB vs. Hawaii, 7:00/4:00 PM, ESPN Monday, December 27 MPC Computers: Fresno State vs. #18 Virginia, 2:00 PM/11:00 AM, ESPN Motor City: Toledo vs. Connecticut, 5:30/2:30 PM, ESPN Tuesday, December 28 Independence: Iowa State vs. Miami University, 6:30/3:30 PM, ESPN Insight: Oregon State vs. Notre Dame, 9:45/6:45 PM, ESPN Wednesday, December 29 Houston: Colorado vs. UTEP, 4:30/1:30 PM, ESPN Alamo: #25 Ohio State vs. #24 Oklahoma State, 8:00/5:00 PM, ESPN Thursday, December 30 Continental Tire: Boston College vs. North Carolina, 1:00 PM/10:00 AM, ESPN2 Emerald: Navy vs. New Mexico, 4:30/1:30 PM, ESPN2 Holiday: #22 Texas Tech vs. #5 California, 8:00/5:00 PM, ESPN Silicon Valley: Northern Illinois vs. Troy, 11:00/8:00 PM, ESPN2 Friday, December 31 Music City: Alabama vs. Minnesota, Noon/9:00 AM, ESPN Sun: Purdue vs. #19 Arizona State, 2:00 PM/11:00 AM, CBS Liberty: #10 Louisville vs. #9 Boise State, 3:30/12:30 PM, ESPN Peach: #23 Florida vs. #14 Miami, 7:30/4:30 PM, ESPN Saturday, January 1 Outback: #17 Wisconsin vs. #7 Georgia, 11:00/8:00 AM, ESPN Cotton: #20 Texas A&M vs. #15 Tennessee, 11:00/8:00 AM, Fox Gator: West Virginia vs. #16 Florida State, 12:30 PM/9:30 AM, NBC Capital One: #12 Iowa vs. #11 LSU, 1:00 PM/10:00 AM, ABC Rose: #13 Michigan vs. #4 Texas, 4:30/1:30 PM, ABC Fiesta: #21 Pittsburgh vs. #6 Utah, 8:30/5:30 PM, ABC Monday, January 3 Sugar: #8 Virginia Tech vs. #3 Auburn, 8:00/5:00 PM, ABC Tuesday, January 4 Orange: #2 Oklahoma vs. #1 USC, 8:00/5:00 PM, ABC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2004 Let's make this a minor bowl thread, to cover everything before Christmas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2004 I'd call anything not a BCS bowl as a minor bowl Hell, you could really call anything that isn't the title game a minor bowl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2004 Christmas is just a good distinctive point. If we want to extend it to the games of the 27th and 28th and such, I won't split hairs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2004 Since there is no more than two games a day thru the 29th I think the thread will be fine until then. Maybe could create daily threads for the 30th thru the 1st. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2004 That's what I'm thinking. I'm just worried that a single thread for all bowl games will get quite unwieldly come New Years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted December 14, 2004 Tomorrow night's probably going to be a boring game. North Texas is rarely a fun team to watch and I don't think they're any kind of match for Southern Miss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Secret Agent 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2004 The Orange Bowl is on a tuesday? WTF? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2004 Southern Miss Golden Eagles (6-5, tied for 2nd in Conference USA) Last Bowl Apperance: 2003 Liberty Bowl (Lost to Utah 17-0) Last Bowl Win: 2000 Mobile Alabama Bowl (28-21 over TCU) All-Conference USA Players First Team LB Michael Boley (2nd Team All-American, Conference USA Defensive POY) -117 Tackles, 6.5 Sacks, 13 Tackles for Loss, 5 Forced Fumbles CB/KR John Eubanks (Conference USA Special Teams POY) -3 Interceptions, 12 Passes Defended; 29.4 Yards per KR, 1 TD Second Team T Jeremy Parquet DT Chad Ruffin S Trevis Coley -97 Tackles, 3 Interceptions K Darren McCaleb -15/15 FG North Texas Mean Green (7-4, Sun Belt Champions) Last Bowl Apperance: 2003 New Orleans Bowl (Lost to Memphis 27-17) Last Bowl Win: 2002 New Orleans Bowl (24-19 over Cincinnati) All-Sun Belt Conference Players First Team RB Jamario Thomas (3rd Team All-American, Sun Belt Conference POY) -1709 Yards Rushing, 17 TD C Andy Brewster DE Adrian Awasom -45 Tackles, 8 Sacks, 14.5 Tackles for Loss, 3 Fumbles Forced S Jonas Buckles -55 Tackles K Nick Bazaldua -10/13 FG, 51 Long A-P Johnny Quinn -848 All-Purpose Yards Second Team QB Scott Hall -1684 Yards Passing, 13 TD, 2 INT WR Johnny Quinn -41 Receptions, 693 Yards Receiving, 8 TD T Lonnie Chambers G Dylan Lineberry DT Evan Cardwell -40 Tackles, 5 Sacks DT Michael Pruitt -46 Tackles, 5 Sacks, 11.5 Tackles for Loss CB Markeith Knowlton -4 Interceptions Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teke184 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2004 I'm going to watch tomorrow if only to see my alma mater get its first bowl win since 2000. (They got bitchslapped by Utah in the 2003 Liberty Bowl, lost to Oklahoma State in the 2002 Houston Bowl, didn't go to a bowl in 2001, and beat TCU in the 2000 Mobile Bowl.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2004 [\RB Jamario Thomas (3rd Team All-American, Sun Belt Conference POY) -1709 Yards Rushing, 17 TD He's only a Freshmen. Might be able to challenge the career rushing yards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2004 Well, this looks to me like the most one-sided bowl matchup on the docket with a spread of less than seven points. When you're 7-0 in conference and 0-4 out of conference two years in a row, that's a really good indication that there's something wrong with your conference. Remember, Southern Miss beat Nebraska and was only down one to Cal late in the fourth quarter. Meanwhile, look at this non-conference resume: at Texas L 65-0 Fla Atlantic L 20-13 at Colorado L 52-21 at Baylor L 37-14 Yes, Jamario Thomas got hurt in the Texas game after only two carries, but he was back for the Baylor game, so there's no excuse for that one. Seeing what an easy game this is to handicap, I made sure to get registered with an online sportsbook before the game and plunked down $30 on Southern Miss to win and cover. Oh, and while I was looking, I couldn't resist the Stanford/Denver basketball game as a pick 'em, so I won $15 there too. Hopefully, this will be a profitable bowl season for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2004 Actually, scratch what I said about Jamario Thomas being hurt. He just wasn't the starter yet. Apparently, they just lost to Texas by 65 because they sucked. Shit, I should really put some more on this game. It's a gimme, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2004 This was on ESPN's SportsNation page. I'll bold who I picked. 1) Tennessee vs. Texas A&M: Who wins the SBC Cotton Bowl? 52.2% Tennessee 47.8% Texas A&M 2) Georgia vs. Wisconsin: Who wins the Outback Bowl? (Jan.1, 11:00 a.m., ESPN) 77.1% Georgia 22.9% Wisconsin 3) Florida State vs. West Virginia: Who wins the Toyota Gator Bowl? 69.4% Florida State 30.6% West Virginia 4) Iowa vs. LSU: Who wins the Capital One Bowl? (Jan. 1, 1:00, ABC) 58.0% LSU 42.0% Iowa 5) Michigan vs. Texas: Who wins the Rose Bowl presented by Citi? (Jan.1, 5:00, ABC) 60.5% Texas 39.5% Michigan 6) Pittsburgh vs. Utah: Who wins the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl? (Jan. 1, 8:30, ABC) 80.3% Utah 19.7% Pittsburgh 7) Auburn vs. Virginia Tech: Who wins the Nokia Sugar Bowl? (Jan. 3, 8:00, ABC) 81.6% Auburn 18.4% Virginia Tech 8) Oklahoma vs. USC: Who wins the FedEx Orange Bowl? (Jan. 4, 8:00, ABC) 53.0% Oklahoma 47.0% USC It appears people are still drinking the Texas Kool-Aid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teke184 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2004 In all fairness, Texas is playing the worst BCS team outside of the Big East. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2004 So who else is pumped for the New Orleans Bowl? Well, probably just me, unless someone else recognized a financial opprtunity in it. Anyway, both teams just went three and out, but I have confidence in USM. I just hope that it's not still close when I have to go to my Biology final in two and a half hours. I know Southern Miss is going to win, but there's always that lingering possibililty that the Mean Green will get a late touchdown to keep them from covering. I don't want my $40 to be endangered by bullshit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teke184 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2004 And Southern Miss strikes first with a Dustin Almond TD pass to the tight end... If North Texas doesn't get much better than they were in the first series, this could be a long night for the Mean Green. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teke184 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2004 So who else is pumped for the New Orleans Bowl? Well, probably just me, unless someone else recognized a financial opprtunity in it. Anyway, both teams just went three and out, but I have confidence in USM. I just hope that it's not still close when I have to go to my Biology final in two and a half hours. I know Southern Miss is going to win, but there's always that lingering possibililty that the Mean Green will get a late touchdown to keep them from covering. I don't want my $40 to be endangered by bullshit. I'm excited, Iggy, but that's because I'm a Southern Miss alum and want to see them kick the shit out of the Sun Belt's "best". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2004 All right then. Go Golden Eagles! Speaking of which, how about that beautiful TD toss from Dustin Almond? 7-0 Southern Miss! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2004 It's kind of funny. They're making excuses for North Texas's OOC record by saying they played Texas, while completely ignoring the fact that they also played Florida Atlantic and Baylor. Their non-conference schedule wasn't exactly like something Notre Dame or Florida would play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teke184 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2004 I think they're confusing North Texas's OOC schedule with Southern Miss when they talk about how hard it is. North Texas- Texas, Florida A&M, Baylor, Colorado Southern Miss- Nebraska, Alabama, California, UL Lafayette And Almond hits a 47 yard strike... Considering that Southern Miss's offense typically makes Eli Manning's New York Giants look like Peyton Manning's Indianapolis Colts, this is going to be a long night for the Mean Green. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Der Kommissar 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2004 I am somewhat excited about it as well. Southern Miss is usually the team I end up choosing in video games, and I always feel bad for the Sun Belt. They're like the forgotten conference. Of course, I am cheering for Southern Miss as well here. They can't lose to a team that lost to Baylor. Of course, if by some miracle, they did that would mean that Nebraska lost to a team who lost to a team who lost to Baylor, which I would find somewhat humorous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2004 Of course, if by some miracle, they did that would mean that Nebraska lost to a team who lost to a team who lost to Baylor, which I would find somewhat humorous. Actually, that's already the case. Nebraska lost to Texas Tech by 60. Texas Tech lost to Texas A&M. Texas A&M lost to Baylor. The Huskers are so far down right now that most of the "what if" scenarios have already been fulfilled. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2004 Williams is a good RB. Southern Miss had tougher non-conference scheduele. But, besides Cal. They didn't play anyone worth a damn either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2004 I guess McCaleb can't take these high pressure kicks in the prestigious New Orleans Bowl. 15 for 15 during the regular season, 1 for 3 tonight. And he misses again! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2004 Yeah, that kicker's really pissing me off. He's 1-4 now. If he could just make a damn field goal, I could be completely secure when I go off to my Biology final, but no, North Texas is still hanging around. Although if you're looking for an explanation, I'd say it's more likely that he's worried about his finals than that he's stressed out about playing in the New Orleans Bowl. They did say on ESPN that they took finals in the hotel yesterday, and they're taking more tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teke184 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2004 Depends on what class he's taking a final for... Southern Miss's tougher classes tend to be in the hard sciences, business classes, and the Polymer Science curriculum. Most of the Art and Liberal Arts classes tend to have inflated grades, as there are a LOT of people who graduate with honors (3.5 or above) in those disciplines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2004 Oh well, 31-10 final score's pretty damn good. If you asked me for an exact score before the game, I think that's about right where I would have placed it, and it was good enough to win me my 40 bucks. No more bowl games for a week now, but when they do resume, there's another fairly easy game coming up with Georgia Tech vs. Syracuse in the Champs Sports Bowl. I might be a little biased, since I am a big Tech fan, but I really think that this is similar to the New Orleans Bowl in that you've got one team playing at a level they shouldn't be due to an extremely weak conference. Syracuse got killed by Purdue, and went 0-2 against the ACC, albeit against two of the ACC's better teams in Florida St. and Virginia. I don't think this one will be a blowout, but Georgia Tech should be able to cover a 5 point spread. I guess I'll do like I did in the two major bowl game threads and just flat out post a prediction. Reggie Ball hasn't exactly been executing very well, but the Tech D should be able to shut down Syracuse, and they'll be able to put just enough points on the board to win. Georgia Tech 20 Syracuse 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2004 Bowl season finally starts back up again (they really should move the New Orleans Bowl up a few days) so time to bump this thread for the first of four straight nights with a bowl game starting tommorrow. Syracuse Orange (6-5, Big East Co-Champions) Last Bowl Appearance: 2001 Insight.com Bowl (Def. Kansas State 26-3) Last Bowl Loss: 1998/99 Orange Bowl (31-10 to Florida) All-Big East Players First Team RB Walter Reyes -822 Yards Rushing (8 games), 7 TD T Adam Terry C Matt Tarullo S Diamond Ferri -4 Interceptions, 5 Forced Fumbles, 1 TD Second Team RB Damien Rhodes -932 Yard Rushing, 205 Yards Receiving, 11 TD DE James Wyche -15 Tackles for Loss S Anthony Smith -3 Interceptions, 1 TD P Brendan Carney -43.1 AVG, Long 65 Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets (6-5, Tied for 6th in ACC) Last Bowl Appearance: 2003/04 Humanitarian Bowl (Def. Tulsa 55-10) Last Bowl Loss: 2002 Silicon Valley Bowl (30-21 to Fresno State) All-ACC Players First Team WR Calvin Johnson -46 Receptions, 776 Yards, 6 TD S James Butler -85 Tackles, 2 Interceptions Second Team DE Eric Henderson -39 Tackles, 10 Tackles for Loss, 3 Sacks (8 games) LB Gerris Wilkinson -113 Tackles, 14.5 Tackles for Loss, 3.5 Sacks K Travis Bell -15/16 FG, Long 47 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted December 21, 2004 Ohio State suspended Troy Smith for the Alamo Bowl today. That's really bad news for Buckeye fans as the offense was completely inept until he came in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites