Super Bowl XXXIX discussion thread

[Guest Vitamin X]

Banky's a hypocrite.

 

It isn't your team. You're a bandwagon jumper. Where were you last year? Or at the beginning of the year? You weren't here.

 

And neither were you. Last I remember, you were a Raiders fan, then all of a sudden you jumped on the Eagles bandwagon midway through this season.

[nl5xsk1 0]

Tom Brady gets way to much time in the pocket in all of his games. If the Eagles can be in his face the entire game then they can possibly throw him off. I know the guy usually doesn't crack under pressure but we've seen that he makes dumb mistakes when things aren't going his way IE the INT agains the Dolphins while he was falling down.

Jim Johnson we all know likes to blitz. So if he can keep everyone in Brady's face the entire game then they can throw off the Pats offensive rhythm.

As for Corey Dillon, well Trotter will have to handle him when he comes up the middle like he was Dunn yesterday.

Wow, pressure the QB and stop the running game ... why haven't other coaches thought of that?

 

/just busting your balls, no malicious intent behind the sarcasm.

 

I think the Pats did a good job of showing that they're plenty prepared to stop a blitz-happy defense. How many times did people have to refer to the city that the Steelers play in as "Blitzburgh" before it stopped being funny or witty? (Answer: None. It wasn't funny or witty at any point.) I certainly, as a Pats fan, feared the Steelers blitz more than I do the Philly one.

[C Dubya 04 0]

Well, the Eagles only blitzed once or twice during the NFC championship game and still got a lot of pressure on Vick. Plus, they kind of made the Fox people look stupid for hyping a Gibbs coached line to death.

[Guest Smell the ratings!!!]

ok I didn't watch the NFC game, but if Fox hyped up any part of the Falcons, I can assure you that they are stupid. They are without question the worst 10 win team of all time.

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

The reason the Pats are going to win is that there are no weak points on the team. They can run the ball, pass the ball, stop the run, stop the pass, have an underrated offensive line, can return kicks, don't turn the ball over, and have the best kicker and coaching staff in football. Even their punting unit is better than last year. You can't exploit anything with them, because there aren't any weaknesses to exploit, unlike every other team in football, including the Colts (no run D) & Steelers (rookie QB). When I am going through my head to figure out how Philly can win this game, I get stumped, because I can't find a way that doesn't include a complete meltdown by the Patriots players. If they come to play, the Pats are going to dominate. This is a much better team than even last year, and honestly, this year's Eagles probably wouldn't have beaten last year's Panthers.

[C Dubya 04 0]

You've got to be kidding if you think this year's Eagles wouldn't have beaten last year's Panthers. Look, just because the NFC had a weak year does not mean that there couldn't be one great team in the conference. This years Eagles team is miles ahead of where they were at this point last year. Particularly in the Defensive line. Last year they could barely field a line at this point, this year they have everyone healty, plus the Freak.

 

And I do agree with you that the Patriots have no weak points on their team, but the Eagles don't either. When the Eagles want to run the ball, they can. When they want to pass, they can. The defense in the second half of the year has been dominant against both the run and the pass and the special teams are as good as anyones.

[therealworldschampion 0]

Well I guess Dama has alienated everyone so I'll just put my thoughts in on what the Eagles need to do.

 

Against the Patriots offense I think the key will be the secondary against the Patriot receivers. I'm confident that the Eagles' run defense can do a good job against Dillon, so I think how they defending Brady's passes is going to be key.

 

Against the Patriot D, the receivers have to play well. Reid can't go into his old dink-n-dunk West Coast offense because the Pats front seven will neutralize those kind of plays. Greg Lewis and Todd Pinkston are both going to be key in being able to get down the field. Belichick will definitley have something planned for McNabb and Westbrook, so this will be a tough battle.

[Damaramu 0]

Well Pinkston has been playing better in these last 2 games. But he wasn't really being pressed. We all know the Patriots secondary will be physical. So hopefully the Eagles recievers will decide to get physical with them.

McNabb has to be flawless. Because with the defenses involved I'm having a feeling that one mistake is totally going to swing everthing in this game. One pick 6 and the game could be over.

I don't think McNabb will lose his cool though at all. I mean if he's sacked like once or twice or picked once I don't think he'll say "here we go again!" and shut down like I've heard he will do in the NFC Title game. He's going to be cool the entire game. And that will be one of the biggest assetts for the Eagles.

[Bored 0]

Let's just start a Super Bowl pool to see when Dama gets banned or is asked to be banned again.

 

Anyways, Chad Lewis is officially out of the Super Bowl.

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylc=X3oD...ov=ap&type=lgns

[Damaramu 0]

Why would I get banned? I haven't done anything ban worthy nor am i going to do anything ban worthy.

As a matter of fact I haven't done one thing wrong.

[Guest Failed Mascot]

Dama won't be banned. For some reason he's allowed to derail every thread with nonsense and tell everybody to fuck off while tantruming to no end. Rather than debate its "I'm right and it doesn't matter what you think." without providing real insight.

 

Chad Lewis being out is a big blow to a team who's offense is already nothing special. With Lewis out and TO at best being able to short routes(there's no way he's 100% for this game and I still think he's not going to play) then the Pats probably focus on shutting down Westbrook. If they shut down Westbrook then McNabb has to rely on Pinkston and Mitchell. Pinkston doesn't like to catch the ball so Mitchell becomes their main threat.

 

The Philli offense doesn't worry me at all. I don't think they do anything. The one thing that is a concern is the Eagles' defense having the ability to make big plays and be in the right place at the right time. That's why I feel establishing Dillon in this game will be just as big as with Pitt. Also for whomever said Dan G is inconsistent he's a great run blocking TE. He can handle Trotter.

[Damaramu 0]

Dama won't be banned. For some reason he's allowed to derail every thread with nonsense and tell everybody to fuck off while tantruming to no end. Rather than debate its "I'm right and it doesn't matter what you think." without providing real insight.

 

Chad Lewis being out is a big blow to a team who's offense is already nothing special. With Lewis out and TO at best being able to short routes(there's no way he's 100% for this game and I still think he's not going to play) then the Pats probably focus on shutting down Westbrook. If they shut down Westbrook then McNabb has to rely on Pinkston and Mitchell. Pinkston doesn't like to catch the ball so Mitchell becomes their main threat.

 

The Philli offense doesn't worry me at all. I don't think they do anything. The one thing that is a concern is the Eagles' defense having the ability to make big plays and be in the right place at the right time. That's why I feel establishing Dillon in this game will be just as big as with Pitt. Also for whomever said Dan G is inconsistent he's a great run blocking TE. He can handle Trotter.

Really so what do you call what you do?

When you follow me into every thread and accuse me of being a bandwagon fan? I mean you're wrong about me being a bandwagon fan yet you still insist. Not to mention al has told you to knock if off before but you still follow me.

That's trolling. So if I'm breaking rules your breaking just as many by following me.

[Black Lushus 0]

prediction change: 48-10 Pats

[therealworldschampion 0]

Don't forget about L.J. Smith either, he's been better than Lewis all year and has become the #1 TE now. I just worry with Lewis out that Reid can't run many of his 2 TE set plays.

 

Oh and being at school was so great today seeing all of the Giants and Cowboy fans basically in hiding and acting like sniveling shits.

[Damaramu 0]

Don't forget about L.J. Smith either, he's been better than Lewis all year and has become the #1 TE now. I just worry with Lewis out that Reid can't run many of his 2 TE set plays.

 

Oh and being at school was so great today seeing all of the Giants and Cowboy fans basically in hiding and acting like sniveling shits.

Hey realworlds at my school there is nowhere to park on campus at the time I get to school. So I just park at Lloyd Noble and ride a bus to school.

Well I'm sitting there in my McNabb jersey and an Eagles hat and this guy in a Tom Brady jersey sits down on the bus beside me. He looks at me and laughs and we start talking and then he's like "I actually think the Eagles will win!" trying to be polite so I come back with "Really? So do I."

And then the gloves were off. The entire bus ride to class was a heated exchange.

So wait until you run into someone in a Pats jersey.

[tominator89 0]

Aside from the fact that I've been an Eagles fan my entire life, I still pick them to win. People can debate facts and numbers all they want, but I think it comes down to more than that. On ESPN.com they're calling it "Dynasty vs. Destiny". I'll take destiny anyday. Reason being, the Eagles are hungry; they WANT this victory in the worst way. They have guys taking paycuts, veterans becoming backups, and they play like a team. As far as I can tell, everyone assumes the Patriots will win because it's "business as usual." Don't get me wrong, they're a fine team, but I see the Eagles having more desire at this point. Also, them getting to the Superbowl gives them a degree of momentum, in my view.

[nl5xsk1 0]

And then the gloves were off. The entire bus ride to class was a heated exchange.

So wait until you run into someone in a Pats jersey.

I'm actually going to be watching the game with a bunch of Eagles fans ... I think that there'll probably be about 5 or so of us that are die-hard Pats fans, and probably 3 or 4 die-hard Eagles fans. There'll be plenty of shit slinging that game.

[the pinjockey 0]

I am not too concerned about losing Lewis. The only difference he made was on the two routes sneaking into the back of the end zone wide open. Mike Bartrum has shown he is capable of handling that, if anything people will pay even less attention to him, on the goal line, than Lewis. Granted he won't do anymore than that, but Lewis really hasn't either.

[Jericholic82 0]

as much as I hate it the pats will mostl likely win. but since the giants didnt make it and the jets choked I could care less about the superbowl. Ill watch it and root for the eagles but the outcome wont have much affect on me. actually its more fun that way lol although I will admit I pulled for the pats in 02 agaisnt the raiders and later the rams. east coast is east coast lol

 

 

 

I wonder if the pats win will the mainstream media and neutral fans start to hate on new england like theyhate on ny. i mean all those yers of sadness then you get a superbowl and world series in 1 year and possibly another sb win back to back to back

 

 

anyhow this should be an interesting match up in a neutral field where the weather will be better than pittsburg and new england and philly

 

 

final thoughs

The pats will win due to playing as my dad puts it "old school ny giant football" which is appropriate since they have belichek and crennel as coaches

[Guest Failed Mascot]

The pats will win due to playing as my dad puts it "old school ny giant football" which is appropriate since they have belichek and crennel as coaches

The comparison is a good one as the LBers play extremely similiar. I think the LBer core are the most important to both's defense as well.

[Guest Failed Mascot]

Interesting note. With a healthy team the Eagles managed to beat the Browns 34-31 in OT...THE BROWNS

 

They also beat Washington by 3, the Bears by 10, and Dallas by 5. Granted they won which is the most important thing, but these are teams that a SB team should roll over. Especially one that didn't lose any of their key parts to injury at that point. Now they are suffering from key components being hurt.

[sfaJack 0]

Aside from the fact that I've been an Eagles fan my entire life, I still pick them to win. People can debate facts and numbers all they want, but I think it comes down to more than that. On ESPN.com they're calling it "Dynasty vs. Destiny". I'll take destiny anyday. Reason being, the Eagles are hungry; they WANT this victory in the worst way. They have guys taking paycuts, veterans becoming backups, and they play like a team. As far as I can tell, everyone assumes the Patriots will win because it's "business as usual." Don't get me wrong, they're a fine team, but I see the Eagles having more desire at this point.

The Eagles play as a team? What the hell do you think the Patriots do? They are the most well-coached team the NFL has seen in at least a decade.

 

And you are insane if you think the Patriots are not hungry or will fail to match the Eagles' intensity. If anything, the Eagles "hunger" would be more likely hurt them. You can be too amped up.

 

Also, them getting to the Superbowl gives them a degree of momentum, in my view.

And the Patriots have no momentum after destroying 2 of the top 4 teams in the league? Please.

[the pinjockey 0]

Browns - before Trotter

Chicago - before Trotter

Dallas and Washington - division games that always have the potential to be close (could be worse, they could have lost to the Dolphins)

 

And all of these key components being out are? Lewis (minimal impact) and Owens (who might not be out)

[Guest Vitamin X]

Dallas and Washington - division games that always have the potential to be close (could be worse, they could have lost to the Dolphins)

Note: The Dolphins play in the same division as the Patriots do. So your logic is self-defeating.

 

And all of these key components being out are?  Lewis (minimal impact) and Owens (who might not be out)

 

You mean the Chad Lewis that's found new life on the Eagles offense with Owens being out?

 

Oh yeah, Seymour might get a chance to play as well. So the Pats might luck into getting some of their best players for this as well.

[Guest The Winter Of My Discontent]

Banky's a hypocrite.

 

It isn't your team. You're a bandwagon jumper. Where were you last year? Or at the beginning of the year? You weren't here.

 

And neither were you. Last I remember, you were a Raiders fan, then all of a sudden you jumped on the Eagles bandwagon midway through this season.

One can still have several teams they cheer for. I think most Patriot fans can remember me saying last year that the Eagles could beat them in the SB. I was a big Eagles supporter. But nice try, friend.

[Guest Failed Mascot]

Chad Lewis appeared to become McNabb's go to guy in the redzone when TO went down. I'd say losing him is more than minimal.

[Guest Vitamin X]

So who's to say Dama doesn't also have several teams to cheer for? It's incredibly hypocritical to criticize him for the same exact thing you do, is all I'm saying.

[Guest Smell the ratings!!!]

Chad Lewis is old and average. Freddie Mitchell caught 2 TD's in a game too, and he's not exactly a key offensive cog either.

[Guest The Winter Of My Discontent]

So who's to say Dama doesn't also have several teams to cheer for? It's incredibly hypocritical to criticize him for the same exact thing you do, is all I'm saying.

No. My point is that there have been many Eagles fans who have appeared in all of the weekly NFL threads over the past few years (myself has been 2 as I never went into the sports folder) and I've never seen him there at all until the playoffs. During the season he's nowhere to be found. All of a sudden they are going to the SB and he appears "my boys are gonna kick ass." In fact, did you see him talking trash to you all year when you were saying that your Packers were gonna dethrone the Eagles? No, that was me. I talked shit to you even up to last year, I'm sure. I emplore you to look it up, as you do have something invested in trying to "belittle" me.

 

Vitamin X, I expected better out of you. You let your petty little grudge against me get in the way of the facts. Thats unfortunate.

[Guest The Winter Of My Discontent]

Chad Lewis is old and average. Freddie Mitchell caught 2 TD's in a game too, and he's not exactly a key offensive cog either.

Chad Lewis's injury means spit. I'd be hurt more of LJ was injured. Plus we don't need another receiver with T.O coming back.