Super Bowl XXXIX discussion thread

[therealworldschampion 0]

Watching Primetime makes me want to string Berman up for all of his stupid 70s lyrics references.

[Guest Vitamin X]

No. My point is that there have been many Eagles fans who have appeared in all of the weekly NFL threads over the past few years (myself has been 2 as I never went into the sports folder) and I've never seen him there at all until the playoffs. During the season he's nowhere to be found. All of a sudden they are going to the SB and he appears "my boys are gonna kick ass." In fact, did you see him talking trash to you all year when you were saying that your Packers were gonna dethrone the Eagles? No, that was me. I talked shit to you even up to last year, I'm sure. I emplore you to look it up, as you do have something invested in trying to "belittle" me.

 

Vitamin X, I expected better out of you. You let your petty little grudge against me get in the way of the facts. Thats unfortunate.

For one, it's not me with the grudge. You're the one who's taken every opportunity to try and insult me any chance you get. Any behavior I exhibit is consequent of that fact, but I've for the most part tried to be reasonable and amiable with you.

 

Anyways, Dama hasn't participated in the NFL threads too much from what I've seen, but when he has, he's shown that he's an Eagles fan primarily. He just happens to like other teams, as you do. I don't care to look it up, but he's professed his fandom as long as I can remember him doing so. Do the research if you want to, but it's there.

[Guest Failed Mascot]

Chad Lewis is old and average. Freddie Mitchell caught 2 TD's in a game too, and he's not exactly a key offensive cog either.

Chad Lewis's injury means spit. I'd be hurt more of LJ was injured. Plus we don't need another receiver with T.O coming back.

Before Owens could even be considered an option to play in Jacksonville, the flamboyant star has to practice, and before he can do that he must be cleared by doctors -- which has yet to happen.

 

Owens hasn't even begun running which he's supposed to try today apparently. Its still an outside shot that he plays. No guarentee.

 

I didn't mean Chad Lewis is the Eagles offensive star, but he's important to the team in Red Zone possessions. Most TEs are and losing him while alone may not be a big deal, stacked atop the TO injury makes a big deal. Their offense isn't 99 Rams level so they need to keep all the "cogs" they can healthy.

[Guest The Winter Of My Discontent]

No. My point is that there have been many Eagles fans who have appeared in all of the weekly NFL threads over the past few years (myself has been 2 as I never went into the sports folder) and I've never seen him there at all until the playoffs. During the season he's nowhere to be found. All of a sudden they are going to the SB and he appears "my boys are gonna kick ass." In fact, did you see him talking trash to you all year when you were saying that your Packers were gonna dethrone the Eagles? No, that was me. I talked shit to you even up to last year, I'm sure. I emplore you to look it up, as you do have something invested in trying to "belittle" me.

 

Vitamin X, I expected better out of you. You let your petty little grudge against me get in the way of the facts. Thats unfortunate.

For one, it's not me with the grudge. You're the one who's taken every opportunity to try and insult me any chance you get. Any behavior I exhibit is consequent of that fact, but I've for the most part tried to be reasonable and amiable with you.

You answered my question.

 

Thank you and please avoid taking unnecessary and irrational pot shots at me.

[Guest The Winter Of My Discontent]

Chad Lewis is old and average. Freddie Mitchell caught 2 TD's in a game too, and he's not exactly a key offensive cog either.

Chad Lewis's injury means spit. I'd be hurt more of LJ was injured. Plus we don't need another receiver with T.O coming back.

Before Owens could even be considered an option to play in Jacksonville, the flamboyant star has to practice, and before he can do that he must be cleared by doctors -- which has yet to happen.

 

Owens hasn't even begun running which he's supposed to try today apparently. Its still an outside shot that he plays. No guarentee.

 

I didn't mean Chad Lewis is the Eagles offensive star, but he's important to the team in Red Zone possessions. Most TEs are and losing him while alone may not be a big deal, stacked atop the TO injury makes a big deal. Their offense isn't 99 Rams level so they need to keep all the "cogs" they can healthy.

Frigid, do you actually believe anything will prevent T.O from at least dressing and playign a few plays? He'll be in there.

[Guest Failed Mascot]

Its a serious injury that could end his career if he comes back prematurely. If that becomes the case then the doctors won't clear him. Its not just his choice in the matter.

 

If he's out there then he's out there. At the same time he won't be able to stretch the field. He's really rushing to come back from an injury that takes most people 2 1/2 - 3months to fully recover from.

[Dr. Tom 0]

Dama, the problem is you totally epitomize everything you just said in that statement by making said statement...

And what the fuck do you expect me to do?

When every post I make is followed up by some childish comment then I'm eventually going to go off the deep end.

But the fact is I'm here to stay. I haven't done anything to get myself banned nor will I so you kids are going to have to deal with me posting because I'm not going to stop.

To answer the question in bold: ignore it. You're in college. That means you're an adult, at least chronologically. Start acting like one. If you think people are baiting you, ignore them and read the next post. I'm tired of threads getting derailed because you have to make a childish retort to every real or imagined slight. We've been accommodating to you before with respect to these problems. No longer. You've had plenty of chances to grow up and get a thicker skin. My patience for it has ended. Yes, you *can* be banned, and you will be the next time you go off on some infantile tantrum because somebody called you out on something.

 

Now, everyone, let's keep this on topic. That being the Super Bowl, not who's rooted for one of the teams the longest.

[the pinjockey 0]

Dallas and Washington - division games that always have the potential to be close (could be worse, they could have lost to the Dolphins)

Note: The Dolphins play in the same division as the Patriots do. So your logic is self-defeating.

Actually, the Eagles managed to pull out their tough division games while the Pats were not able to pull one out. So no it was not self defeating as the Eagles did their job, while the Pats did not.

[The Man in Blak 0]

Patriots, 41-17.

 

I want to root for Philly (which, in itself, should be a sign of the apocalypse), but the Patriots outmatch them in almost every facet of the game.

[Guest Mosaicv2]

As there been a close Super Bowl consecutive years?

Nope, although could make an argument for Super Bowl XIII and XIV. Super Bowl XIII was one of the greatest ever with the Steelers beating the Cowboys 35-31 and then in Super Bowl XIV the Rams actually were up 19-17 going into the 4th before the Steelers took over and won 31-19.

XIV is an underrated classic.

 

The Rams had the worst record ever for a SB team (to date) at 9-7, but kept the three-SB-titles-in-five-years Steelers on the ropes for most of the game before succumbing in the fourth quarter.

 

Plus it had Jack Youngblood playing on a broken leg.

I think the problem with Superbowl XIV is that other things occured that overshadow the event... like the classic "Mean Joe Greene Coca-Cola commercial" and that it was also in front of the largest crowd in Superbowl history of 103,985.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

FailedMascot, you've already proven your disworth on the board, so please stop trying to lure me into your little online arguments.

 

Anyone predicting a Patriots blowout is surely mistaken.

 

This game reminds me a lot of Packers Vs. Broncos Super Bowl...with the upstart NFC team winning because they are DUE, over the highly-favored AFC team and repeating champions.

 

Plus....THE PATRIOTS LOST TO THE MIAMI DOLPHINS. If the Eagles #3 QB in Feeley can defeat Brady on National TV in the biggest upset of all time (by record anyway), McNabb can too.

[Guest Failed Mascot]

Dallas and Washington - division games that always have the potential to be close (could be worse, they could have lost to the Dolphins)

Note: The Dolphins play in the same division as the Patriots do. So your logic is self-defeating.

Actually, the Eagles managed to pull out their tough division games while the Pats were not able to pull one out. So no it was not self defeating as the Eagles did their job, while the Pats did not.

He's correct here and at the same time Brady has never played well in Miami. It seems to be his kryptonite. Still, if Washington plays in the AFC East then their record is worse than Miami's in the end and I truly believe this. They may have gotten 1 win all season playing the Dolphin's schedule.

 

The AFC was a tougher conference.

[Guest The Winter Of My Discontent]

Patriots, 41-17.

 

I want to root for Philly (which, in itself, should be a sign of the apocalypse), but the Patriots outmatch them in almost every facet of the game.

Would you say, just for interests sake, that Tom brady is actually a better quarterback than Donavon McNabb? Sure Brady has experience, but based upon pure talent, I'd say McNabb has become a much better and dangerous QB than brady. Offensively, what can the Patriots do that will obliterate the Eagles defense?

 

I don't see the grave mismatches that everyone is proclaiming.

[The Man in Blak 0]

This game reminds me a lot of Packers Vs. Broncos Super Bowl...with the upstart NFC team winning because they are DUE, over the highly-favored AFC team and repeating champions.

 

Except that the Broncos won that Super Bowl, if you're talking about '97.

[Guest The Winter Of My Discontent]

FailedMascot, you've already proven your disworth on the board, so please stop trying to lure me into your little online arguments.

 

Anyone predicting a Patriots blowout is surely mistaken.

 

This game reminds me a lot of Packers Vs. Broncos Super Bowl...with the upstart NFC team winning because they are DUE, over the highly-favored AFC team and repeating champions.

 

Plus....THE PATRIOTS LOST TO THE MIAMI DOLPHINS. If the Eagles #3 QB in Feeley can defeat Brady on National TV in the biggest upset of all time (by record anyway), McNabb can too.

disworth?

 

The Patriots losing to the Dolphins right now is totally a moot point. Thats the past. Its done. The Eagles almost lost to the Cleveland Browns; would you lke to discuss that?

 

Since there are like 5 Eagles fans on this board, why are half of them complete numbskulls?

[Guest Failed Mascot]

FailedMascot, you've already proven your disworth on the board, so please stop trying to lure me into your little online arguments.

I don't want to get into a war of words with you. I just think you're terrible all around.

 

This game reminds me a lot of Packers Vs. Broncos Super Bowl...with the upstart NFC team winning because they are DUE, over the highly-favored AFC team and repeating champions.

 

Denver 31 Green Bay 24. God knows what you're talking about.

[Guest Failed Mascot]

Not to mention the Broncos weren't even repeat anything at that point. That was Elway's first ring.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

The Eagles almost lost to the Browns?

 

So?

 

Since when do "almost"s count. The Patriots ALMOST lost to Colts...yet they destroyed them in the playoffs.

[Guest Failed Mascot]

And it was the Dolphins defense picking off Brady in their own Red Zone that spelled doom for the Pats. Not Feeley.

[therealworldschampion 0]

For the Pats fans here, how truly crazy will it get up there in the next 2 weeks? I imagine it will get amped there, but not anywhere near what it was when the Red Sox went to the World Series back in October. Over here in Philly, its getting nuts already. Tons of people went out into the streets and all last night and there's likely a shitload of people going down to Jacksonville from Philly next week.

[Guest Failed Mascot]

The Eagles almost lost to the Browns?

 

So?

 

Since when do "almost"s count. The Patriots ALMOST lost to Colts...yet they destroyed them in the playoffs.

This would hold ground if the Eagles were about to play the Browns in the Super Bowl.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

It'm not a numbskull. The total lack of respect shown to the Eagles is sickening. Teams like the Falcons and Vikings DIDNT HAVE A PRAYER IN HELL at beating the Eagles. Any intelligent person could see that. I boasted this.

 

Yet, we get "Moss will run all over them!" "Can't stop Vick!" by the annoying Eagles-haters.

 

Now its "OH NO CONTEST 52-0, Patriots roll by 26, or Pats easy 41-7" and that shit continues.

 

So when there is an upset, and the Eagles win, you can all bow down.

 

Here's to a good game.

[therealworldschampion 0]

I think you can dismiss both teams' bad performances this year (Eagles at Cleveland, New England at Miami), because this is one game for the championship. It's not like a best-of-7 series where the more talented team eventually wins, any team could have one player (say Daniel Graham for the Pats or Todd Pinkston for the Eagles) who just have a huge game and win it.

[Guest Failed Mascot]

It'm not a numbskull.

This game reminds me a lot of Packers Vs. Broncos Super Bowl...with the upstart NFC team winning because they are DUE, over the highly-favored AFC team and repeating champions.

[The Man in Blak 0]

Would you say, just for interests sake, that Tom brady is actually a better quarterback than Donavon McNabb?

McNabb is probably the more talented quarterback, but the gap isn't as wide as you'd believe. Furthermore, I'd say that Brady is the more proven commodity in the big game, even with McNabb's improvements this year and, by virtue of that, I'd say he could be the better quarterback in the Super Bowl.

 

But the matchup isn't Brady versus McNabb. It's Brady versus the Philly D and McNabb versus the Patriot D and, frankly, I think New England wins both of those. McNabb is dangerous but, without Terrell Owens, the Eagles can't really challenge on the downfield threat, which means that their passing game gets pulled back into the range where the linebackers can make an impact. And, with that in mind, the defense gets to key more on Westbrook.

 

As for Brady, he's facing a nasty, nasty secondary, but he's got a wide variety of weapons to use in the passing game to spread them out, he rarely turns the ball over (which is one of Philly's primary strengths) and - most importantly - he has Corey Dillon to keep the Eagles honest. Where the Eagles take a hit when Westbrook gets taken out of the picture, the Patriots are very balanced, perhaps moreso than any other team in the league. And, while the Philly defensive personnel is very talented, it's very hard to beat both the run and the pass - you can stop one, but it's a difficult task to take care of both when the opponent is as efficient as the Patriots are.

 

The Patriots do have weaknesses (inexplicably, teams still haven't really attacked the corners deep), but the Eagles don't have the tools to exploit them.

[HarleyQuinn 0]

It'm not a numbskull. The total lack of respect shown to the Eagles is sickening. Teams like the Falcons and Vikings DIDNT HAVE A PRAYER IN HELL at beating the Eagles. Any intelligent person could see that. I boasted this.

 

Yet, we get "Moss will run all over them!" "Can't stop Vick!" by the annoying Eagles-haters.

 

Now its "OH NO CONTEST 52-0, Patriots roll by 26, or Pats easy 41-7" and that shit continues.

 

So when there is an upset, and the Eagles win, you can all bow down.

 

Here's to a good game.

After a quick skim, if anything, I'd say people were predicting the Falcons would win more off the combined running of Vick, Dunn, and Duckett. I don't think anybody was saying that Vick would run all over the Eagles and that the Falcons would win 52-0. stop making dumb generalizations to try and enhance your point.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

If you knew how to read, you'd see the 52-0 point had to do with Patriots/Eagles. Because people have made some WILD blowout predictions.

[Guest Failed Mascot]

I'd like to point out that I do enjoy talking football with the real and true Eagles fans like realworldschampion, pinjockey, and even Banky whom may not be a diehard but when having real football discussion conducts himself in a civil manner.

 

I realise that your team has some fans in its fanbase that aren't great, such as the fanbase for the Pats has Cartman.

[HarleyQuinn 0]

If you knew how to read, you'd see the 52-0 point had to do with Patriots/Eagles. Because people have made some WILD blowout predictions.

Yeah, I saw that as for the Patriots but if people were in such force for the Vick love, they probably would've acted like the Eagles would get blown out by that margin too rather than likely predicting close scores.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

Well, since I've followed the team since '88, been to at least one playoff game for the past 5 years, been to multiple regular season games each year, defend the team against unfair criticism, tailgate at every regular season game, deck myself out in any type of Eagles material possible, have personally served Donovan McNabb dinner at a restaurant, been in the locker room, kicked field goals during a fundraiser with David Akers, Slept on the STREETS in front of Vets Stadium to wait for the box office to open for playoff tickets, and paint myself in various green/white shades for games, I'd say I'm a pretty big fan.

 

It's just unfair "blowout" predictions that piss me off from other people that don't know what they're talking about.