Coffin Surfer Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 "Heartwork" over "Slaugher of the Soul" at the moment, it just grooves better and the production is incredibly clean, I also like the hissy hag vocals. "..Eclipse" over "Dusk," the atmosphere is somehow more convincing and evil, which is what counts in Black Metal.
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted December 10, 2008 Report Posted December 10, 2008 How do we feel about Early Man? I bought Closing In as a random pick up around whenever it came out and just re-visited it. I like them! The formula here is, they take every influential metal band ever, and do what they do, all at the same time. This album has loads of Sabbath, some Priest, Maiden, even some Mercyful Fate, Metallica, a few Slayery thrash moments. Fun as fuck. Milky said something a while ago about how he loves it when a metal band "gets it." These guys do, and they're a two piece. Neat.
Gary Floyd Posted December 10, 2008 Report Posted December 10, 2008 I've been listening to Dissection's Storm of the Light's Bane and Witchcraft's self titled. That Witchcraft album is great.
Nighthawk Posted December 10, 2008 Report Posted December 10, 2008 Backhanded insult on Dissection? Cause I love that album. Good work, re: Early Man.
Corey_Lazarus Posted December 10, 2008 Report Posted December 10, 2008 I'm beginning to really dig Disillusion. Also: FUCK ACARO. They're a band down the hall from us that we're all friends with (and their singer is ex-Burn In Silence, who were starting to gain popularity before splitting), and they opened for In Flames this past Saturday night. ...fuckers...
Gary Floyd Posted December 10, 2008 Report Posted December 10, 2008 Backhanded insult on Dissection? Cause I love that album. Not at all.
Slayer Posted December 10, 2008 Report Posted December 10, 2008 Anyone here checked out the new Enslaved? Avant-garde black metal, I think that'd go over well with a fair number of people in this thread Made my top ten list for the year... which I still need to complete and post in the year-end thread, though I still have about three other CDs I need to check out first
Gary Floyd Posted December 10, 2008 Report Posted December 10, 2008 Anyone here checked out the new Enslaved? Avant-garde black metal, I think that'd go over well with a fair number of people in this thread Made my top ten list for the year... which I still need to complete and post in the year-end thread, though I still have about three other CDs I need to check out first Enslaved are awesome. Isa is one of my favorite metal albums of the past 8 years. I haven't heard the new one yet, but if I like it enough, it will make my year end list.
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted December 12, 2008 Report Posted December 12, 2008 Slayer, Have you heard the new Origin? (that's a funny sentence) I can't remember if you were in that discussion earlier.
Gary Floyd Posted December 12, 2008 Report Posted December 12, 2008 The new Cynic is pretty good. Not as great as Focus, but pretty good given the fact that they haven't done a new album in I forgot how long. Agent, have you ever heard Reverend Bizarre? This is some really awesome Doom Metal.
Slayer Posted December 13, 2008 Report Posted December 13, 2008 A couple months ago I said this: Origin - Hey, they're from my own state. Neat. Liked it, could have loved more were it not for my major complaint about the production, namely that the drums are way too loud over everything else. I get the drums play a major role in these types of bands, but I want to hear guitar licks and vocals first and foremost, not the 200 BPM BADADADADADADADADADADA DABADADADADADADADADADA. But, after recently going back and relistening to it, that's not as bad as I thought and would def make my Top 10 of 08
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted December 13, 2008 Report Posted December 13, 2008 The new Origin is pretty good. Not as great as Focus, but pretty good given the fact that they haven't done a new album in I forgot how long. Agent, have you ever heard Reverend Bizarre? This is some really awesome Doom Metal. You're going for Cynic there first, right? No! Though I've read good things. On my to-do list. the drums are way too loud over everything else. I get the drums play a major role in these types of bands, but I want to hear guitar licks and vocals first and foremost, not the 200 BPM BADADADADADADADADADADA DABADADADADADADADADADA. Two Hundred? Pfft. *jerking off motion* That's John God Damn Longstreth, there. He can be as loud as he wants. Love his shit with Dying Fetus, too.
Slayer Posted December 13, 2008 Report Posted December 13, 2008 If only that name had any significance to me! I've never been a big drum guy Besides, I said I came around on the album, what more do you want?!
Super Leather Posted December 13, 2008 Report Posted December 13, 2008 I just saw this thread, and am going to derail it for a moment in the interest of talking about grindcore since there's not much about it here. Here's a list of essential grind records to check out, as well as some bands that fall under the "proto-grind" distinction for being influential in some way. Some of these records are hard to get, but most of them should be easy to find for downloading purposes. Have at it! I have all of these records, and can vouch for them. Napalm Death-The Peel Sessions Fear of God-First EP Carcass-Reek of Putrefaction (or Symphonies of Sickness, they're both great) Repulsion-Horrified Terrorizer-World Downfall Phobia-Return to Desolation Assuck-Misery Index Excruciating Terror-Divided We Fall Catheter-Preamble to Oblivion Agathocles are also a classic old school grind band, but have released so many records and split 7-inches, that I'll be damned if I can pick one to start with. Unholy Grave are a stellar Japanese grind band with a similar amount of material, but I'd go with any of their live recordings. If you dig Terrorizer, 324 is another Japanese grind band who sound almost identical. I believe Master is the band before Entombed, and their demos have been reissued in the past few years. Proto-grind bands: Siege-Drop Dead demo Septic Death-Now That I Have the Attention... Disorder-Perdition 12-inch Chaos UK-Short Sharp Shock Discharge-Never Again G.I.S.M.-Detestation Confuse-Indignation demo S.O.B.-Don't Be Swindle Larm-Campaign for Musical Destruction split LP Death Sentence-Ryan...Thanks for the Support EP Heresy-Never Healed flexi Extreme Noise Terror-A Holocaust in Your Head No Comment-Downsided EP Infest-Slave Rupture-Righteous Fuck EP
Gary Floyd Posted December 15, 2008 Report Posted December 15, 2008 Carcass-Reek of Putrefaction (or Symphonies of Sickness, they're both great) Symphonies is the better of the two.
Corey_Lazarus Posted December 17, 2008 Report Posted December 17, 2008 You know, I can see the difference between grindcore and (brutal) death metal in the cases of Phobia, early Napalm Death, Brutal Truth, XXX Maniak, and others...but what makes early Carcass and Repulsion grindcore as opposed to death metal? I've never quite gotten that, honestly.
Super Leather Posted December 18, 2008 Report Posted December 18, 2008 You know, I can see the difference between grindcore and (brutal) death metal in the cases of Phobia, early Napalm Death, Brutal Truth, XXX Maniak, and others...but what makes early Carcass and Repulsion grindcore as opposed to death metal? I've never quite gotten that, honestly. The main difference is that grindcore spawned from '80s hardcore (and the punk/metal crossover), and death metal did not. Early grindcore is much more influenced by the HC/proto-grind bands listed above, like Larm and Siege, or early DRI. Take the jackhammer beats and socio-political commentary from hardcore and grab some tuned-down guitars from metal, and you're on your way to a late '80s grindcore band. Oh, wait, you were asking about specific bands. Shit. Actually, I think both Carcass and Repulsion fit within those confines, despite the fact that Repulsion uses lines like "faggot zombies dressed in drag" in their lyrics. Oh, and thanks for mentioning Brutal Truth, 'cause I'd forgotten about them. It doesn't help that I don't like them very much, but their first album should have been on that list I posted regardless.
Gary Floyd Posted December 19, 2008 Report Posted December 19, 2008 Hey Slayer, if you haven't yet, you should give Virgin Black's Requiem a listen.
Slayer Posted December 20, 2008 Report Posted December 20, 2008 Sounds interesting, I'll add it to the list Cross reference: I posted my 2008 various metal stuffs list in the Best/Worst of 2008 thread
Gary Floyd Posted December 20, 2008 Report Posted December 20, 2008 Cross reference: I posted my 2008 various metal stuffs list in the Best/Worst of 2008 thread Jesus, that new Judas Priest is terrible. It's not Turbo levels bad, but it's still bad.
Slayer Posted December 20, 2008 Report Posted December 20, 2008 Last year on another board, I compiled my "Top Ten Personal Metal Albums of the Decade (so far)" list... and then that board later erased my post, so I had to go back and figure that out again. With only one year left in the decade, this list is fairly well set, unless something mindblowing comes out next year, or I find some amazing hidden gem that I had missed before. 1. Paradise Lost - Paradise Lost 2. Amorphis - Silent Waters 3. Therion - Lemuria/Sirius B 4. Circle II Circle - Burden of Truth 5. Opeth - Blackwater Park 6. Nevermore - This Godless Endeavor 7. Dark Tranquility - Damage Done 8. My Dying Bride - The Dreadful Hours 9. Dream Theater - Train of Thought 10. Iron Maiden - Dance of Death Honorable Mention (ie 11-15, sans ordering): Amon Amarth - With Oden on Our Side Devin Townsend - Terria Evergrey - In Search of Truth Onward - Evermoving SYL - Alien
Gary Floyd Posted December 21, 2008 Report Posted December 21, 2008 I already listed my favorites of the decade so far in my blog: 20.) Deathspell Omega-Fas - Ite, Maledicti, in Ignem Aeternum 19.) Caina-Mourner (This one was tough, because it has so much else going for it-Black Metal, Neo Folk, Shoegaze, Post Rock, and several others) 18.) Weakling-Dead as Dreams 17.) The Angelic Process-Weighing Souls With Sand 16.) Amesoeurs-Ruines Humaines/Blut Aus Nord-The Work Which Transforms God (tie) (This one was tough because I couldn't decide-Amesoeurs has kind of a Black Metal meets Post Punk thing going to them, while Blut Aus Nord are kinda like a Black Metal version of Godflesh-plus, I love that album title) 15.) Nachtmystium-Assasins: Black Meddle Pt. 1 14.) Wolves in the Throne Room-Two Hunters 13.) Origin-Antithesis 12.) Agalloch-Ashes Against the Grain 11.) Mastodon-Blood Mountain 10.) Katatonia-Last Fair Deal Gone Down 9.) Drudkh-Autumn Aurora (This one was tough due to the ties to National Socialist Black Metal band Hate Forest (who are also a shitty band), but damn, these guys impressed me.)/Reverend Bizarre-In the Rectory of the Bizarre Reverend 8.) Nile-In Their Darkened Shrines 7.) Artcturus-The Sham Mirrors (These guys and Emperor are the only symphonic metal bands I like) 6.) Isis-Oceanic/Opeth-Blackwater Park 5.) Sleep-Dopesmoker 4.) Jesu-Jesu 3.) Mastodon-Leviathan 2.) Agalloch-The Mantle 1.) Electric Wizard-Dopethrone Honerable Mention Wolves In The Throne Room-Diadem of 12 Stars Witchcraft-Witchcraft Katatonia-The Great Cold Distance The Gates of Skumber-Conqueror Negura Bunget-Om Boris-Heavy Rocks Primordial-The Gathering Wilderness Enslaved-Ruun Electric Wizard-Witchcult Today Dark Tranquility-Fiction Isis-Panopticon Drudkh-Forgotten Legends Yet to listen to-That s/t Paradise Lost album (I heard a few songs, and liked what I heard) Cult of Luna
Slayer Posted December 21, 2008 Report Posted December 21, 2008 Opeth - Blackwater Park Opeth-Blackwater Park We have a match!
Slayer Posted December 21, 2008 Report Posted December 21, 2008 What're your thoughts on Devin Townsend and SYL? For the most part I don't feel like I excluded anything from my above list, although despite already having Townsend on there twice, I still wanted to work him in a third time for Ziltoid (i.e. Does Humor Belong in Metal?)
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted December 21, 2008 Report Posted December 21, 2008 I need to check out that Ziltoid business. SYL really grew on me. Floyd, you like Leviathan that much? Wow. Mine: 1. Electric Wizard-Dopethrone (and competing with Mr. Bungle's California and Neurosis's Souls At Zero as my favorite album ever) 2. Isis-Oceanic/Panopticon 4. Sleep-Dopesmoker 5. Dying Fetus-Destroy The Opposition 6. Cephalic Carnage-Lucid Interval (No love for this one? Album's fuckin' amazing) 7. Agoraphobic Nosebleed-Altered States of America 8. Red Sparowes-At The Soundless Dawn 9. Pelican-The Fire In Our Throats Will Beckon The Thaw 10. Mastodon-Blood Mountain
Gary Floyd Posted December 21, 2008 Report Posted December 21, 2008 What're your thoughts on Devin Townsend and SYL? Ziltoid is pretty good, and I like City and Alien.
Corey_Lazarus Posted December 22, 2008 Report Posted December 22, 2008 Top 10 of the decade thus far, eh? I can't even think of what I got in the last few years that were RELEASED this decade. Most of the shit I've been getting into came out mid-80's/early 90's, which is my favorite period for metal overall. Hmmmm...I'd have to actually go through my CDs and even see what came out this decade. It's a safe bet Gwar, Exodus, Nevermore, and Municipal Waste will be on there, but otherwise I can't even think. Cannibal Corpse, Dying Fetus...yeah, dunno.
Gary Floyd Posted December 24, 2008 Report Posted December 24, 2008 I've really been liking Tiamat's Wildhoney and Rotting Christ's Triarchy of the Lost Lovers as of late.
Slayer Posted December 24, 2008 Report Posted December 24, 2008 Wildhoney was one of the first gothic doom albums I picked up when I was first getting into the genre "Gaia" still sends chills down my back
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted December 24, 2008 Report Posted December 24, 2008 Anyone here checked out the new Enslaved? Avant-garde black metal, I think that'd go over well with a fair number of people in this thread Made my top ten list for the year... which I still need to complete and post in the year-end thread, though I still have about three other CDs I need to check out first Enslaved are awesome. Isa is one of my favorite metal albums of the past 8 years. I haven't heard the new one yet, but if I like it enough, it will make my year end list. I just listened to the title track to that album, and have "Path to Vanir" on right now. Do these guys pick up the pace? If not, they're fucking terrible. The fuck is this quiet interlude that's going nowhere? Now it's Double kick and a slow snare? Go fuck yourself, Black Metal Machine Head.
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