Big Ol' Smitty Posted February 7, 2005 Report Posted February 7, 2005 Sorry, this isn't really a current event. But this seemed like the best folder to post it in. This is some weird shite. http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1 The bastards thought about killing John Glen!
Jingus Posted February 7, 2005 Report Posted February 7, 2005 I noticed a point made on the first page which bears repeating: the National Security Agency is the largest intelligence agency in the entire world. It has a budget and a staff that completely dward the CIA's. Yet... it seems like all we ever hear about is the CIA when it comes to foreign intelligence matters. Makes me wonder if there's a bit of intentional misdirection going on.
SuperJerk Posted February 7, 2005 Report Posted February 7, 2005 This has Curtis LeMay's finger-prints all over it. If he wasn't involved, I'd be shocked. Suddenly the people who claim the US government framed Lee Harvey Oswald sound a lot more reasonable. After Operation: Ajax, nothing the US government did during the Cold War should surprise us.
Guest MikeSC Posted February 7, 2005 Report Posted February 7, 2005 Hmm, a rejected plan from 40 years ago is current events how? -=Mike
SuperJerk Posted February 7, 2005 Report Posted February 7, 2005 Hmm, a rejected plan from 40 years ago is current events how? -=Mike The story was about how the information was just released, which IS a current event.
Guest MikeSC Posted February 7, 2005 Report Posted February 7, 2005 Hmm, a rejected plan from 40 years ago is current events how? -=Mike The story was about how the information was just released, which IS a current event. Again, how is a rejected plan from 40 years ago current events? I don't care when it gets released --- it's relevant to today in what way, precisely? -=Mike ..."Oooh, the military made some unpopular plans that the civilian leadership shot down. EEEEVIL!!!"
SuperJerk Posted February 7, 2005 Report Posted February 7, 2005 Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Again, how is a rejected plan from 40 years ago current events? Again, the fact that the story is also about how we're just now finding out about it, today in the year 2005. Kind of like if we found ruins of an ancient alien civilization on the moon it'd be a current event, despite the fact that the aliens left them there thousands of years ago.
Guest MikeSC Posted February 7, 2005 Report Posted February 7, 2005 Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Again, how is a rejected plan from 40 years ago current events? Again, the fact that the story is also about how we're just now finding out about it, today in the year 2005. Kind of like if we found ruins of an ancient alien civilization on the moon it'd be a current event, despite the fact that the aliens left them there thousands of years ago. Again, a plan that was REJECTED before it was even seriously considered is considered current events or even important how? -=Mike
Spaceman Spiff Posted February 7, 2005 Report Posted February 7, 2005 Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Again, how is a rejected plan from 40 years ago current events? Again, the fact that the story is also about how we're just now finding out about it, today in the year 2005. Kind of like if we found ruins of an ancient alien civilization on the moon it'd be a current event, despite the fact that the aliens left them there thousands of years ago. Again, a plan that was REJECTED before it was even seriously considered is considered current events or even important how? -=Mike It had the written approval of all the Joint Chiefs of Staff! Whether it's current events or not, it's still a pretty scary story. Again, the fact that the story is also about how we're just now finding out about it, today in the year 2005. The dateline on that story is May 1, 2001.
SuperJerk Posted February 7, 2005 Report Posted February 7, 2005 Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Again, how is a rejected plan from 40 years ago current events? Again, the fact that the story is also about how we're just now finding out about it, today in the year 2005. Kind of like if we found ruins of an ancient alien civilization on the moon it'd be a current event, despite the fact that the aliens left them there thousands of years ago. Again, a plan that was REJECTED before it was even seriously considered is considered current events or even important how? -=Mike Did you even READ the story?
Guest MikeSC Posted February 7, 2005 Report Posted February 7, 2005 Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Again, how is a rejected plan from 40 years ago current events? Again, the fact that the story is also about how we're just now finding out about it, today in the year 2005. Kind of like if we found ruins of an ancient alien civilization on the moon it'd be a current event, despite the fact that the aliens left them there thousands of years ago. Again, a plan that was REJECTED before it was even seriously considered is considered current events or even important how? -=Mike Did you even READ the story? Yes. A plan was considered in 1962 to try and cause a war with Cuba. It was shot down by McNamara before it was even seriously considered. So, a plan that was not even close to being seriously considered for execution 40 years ago is relevant...how? It had the written approval of all the Joint Chiefs of Staff! So JFK had an idiot as Joint Chiefs. The people who actually MAKE the decisions shot it down summarily. -=Mike
Vern Gagne Posted February 7, 2005 Report Posted February 7, 2005 Sorry, this isn't really a current event. But this seemed like the best folder to post it in. This is some weird shite. http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1 The bastards thought about killing John Glen! I can't help but picture the guy in your sig sitting in a dark room planning the assassination.
CheesalaIsGood Posted February 7, 2005 Report Posted February 7, 2005 Hmm, a rejected plan from 40 years ago is current events how? -=Mike The story was about how the information was just released, which IS a current event. Again, how is a rejected plan from 40 years ago current events? I don't care when it gets released --- it's relevant to today in what way, precisely? -=Mike ..."Oooh, the military made some unpopular plans that the civilian leadership shot down. EEEEVIL!!!" He didn't say it was a current event. Read what the man says before you post or shut the fuck up you stupid fuck.
Guest MikeSC Posted February 7, 2005 Report Posted February 7, 2005 Hmm, a rejected plan from 40 years ago is current events how? -=Mike The story was about how the information was just released, which IS a current event. Again, how is a rejected plan from 40 years ago current events? I don't care when it gets released --- it's relevant to today in what way, precisely? -=Mike ..."Oooh, the military made some unpopular plans that the civilian leadership shot down. EEEEVIL!!!" He didn't say it was a current event. Read what the man says before you post or shut the fuck up you stupid fuck. It's relevant in what way, oh poster child for abortion? Go back and do whatever the fuck it is that you do. Don't worry, I'll be leaving again tomorrow. You can then go back to the days where dumb shit like this isn't called. -=Mike
CheesalaIsGood Posted February 7, 2005 Report Posted February 7, 2005 Hmm, a rejected plan from 40 years ago is current events how? -=Mike The story was about how the information was just released, which IS a current event. Again, how is a rejected plan from 40 years ago current events? I don't care when it gets released --- it's relevant to today in what way, precisely? -=Mike ..."Oooh, the military made some unpopular plans that the civilian leadership shot down. EEEEVIL!!!" He didn't say it was a current event. Read what the man says before you post or shut the fuck up you stupid fuck. It's relevant in what way, oh poster child for abortion? Go back and do whatever the fuck it is that you do. Don't worry, I'll be leaving again tomorrow. You can then go back to the days where dumb shit like this isn't called. -=Mike Don't worry. You'll be back. You can't help it. You are compelled.
Guest MikeSC Posted February 7, 2005 Report Posted February 7, 2005 Hmm, a rejected plan from 40 years ago is current events how? -=Mike The story was about how the information was just released, which IS a current event. Again, how is a rejected plan from 40 years ago current events? I don't care when it gets released --- it's relevant to today in what way, precisely? -=Mike ..."Oooh, the military made some unpopular plans that the civilian leadership shot down. EEEEVIL!!!" He didn't say it was a current event. Read what the man says before you post or shut the fuck up you stupid fuck. It's relevant in what way, oh poster child for abortion? Go back and do whatever the fuck it is that you do. Don't worry, I'll be leaving again tomorrow. You can then go back to the days where dumb shit like this isn't called. -=Mike Don't worry. You'll be back. You can't help it. You are compelled. Nah. I will make the usual one shot deal --- but quite frankly, the intellectual level of this board has plummeted. Horribly. -=Mike
SuperJerk Posted February 7, 2005 Report Posted February 7, 2005 Nah. I will make the usual one shot deal --- but quite frankly, the intellectual level of this board has plummeted. Horribly. -=Mike The average will rebound significantly once you leave.
Guest MikeSC Posted February 7, 2005 Report Posted February 7, 2005 Nah. I will make the usual one shot deal --- but quite frankly, the intellectual level of this board has plummeted. Horribly. -=Mike The average will rebound significantly once you leave. Why? You'll be leaving too? -=Mike
Big Ol' Smitty Posted February 7, 2005 Author Report Posted February 7, 2005 Sorry, this isn't really a current event. But this seemed like the best folder to post it in. Glad to see this thread is humming along nicely. Carry on with the substantive discussion of who's dumb.
Guest MikeSC Posted February 7, 2005 Report Posted February 7, 2005 Sorry, this isn't really a current event. But this seemed like the best folder to post it in. Glad to see this thread is humming along nicely. Carry on with the substantive discussion of who's dumb. Doesn't make it a story. A plan that was shot down by the civilian leadership before it was considered is only news to people who hate America. -=Mike
Big Ol' Smitty Posted February 7, 2005 Author Report Posted February 7, 2005 Sorry, this isn't really a current event. But this seemed like the best folder to post it in. Glad to see this thread is humming along nicely. Carry on with the substantive discussion of who's dumb. Doesn't make it a story. A plan that was shot down by the civilian leadership before it was considered is only news to people who hate America. -=Mike That's me!
Big Ol' Smitty Posted February 7, 2005 Author Report Posted February 7, 2005 So JFK had an idiot as Joint Chiefs. The people who actually MAKE the decisions shot it down summarily. Actually there are 7 of them, cap'n. And they all agreed on these things. And the Joint Chiefs consists of the representatives of every branch of the military. They're not exactly chopped liver.
Jingus Posted February 7, 2005 Report Posted February 7, 2005 Maybe it's not Current, but it's certainly an Event, and an interesting one that I'd never heard of before.
Guest MikeSC Posted February 7, 2005 Report Posted February 7, 2005 So JFK had an idiot as Joint Chiefs. The people who actually MAKE the decisions shot it down summarily. Actually there are 7 of them, cap'n. And they all agreed on these things. And the Joint Chiefs consists of the representatives of every branch of the military. They're not exactly chopped liver. And I assumed it was similar to the status of having a Joint Chiefs (Powell and that Polish guy under Clinton). I was mistaken. Their decision was still idiotic. -=Mike
Big Ol' Smitty Posted February 7, 2005 Author Report Posted February 7, 2005 So JFK had an idiot as Joint Chiefs. The people who actually MAKE the decisions shot it down summarily. Actually there are 7 of them, cap'n. And they all agreed on these things. And the Joint Chiefs consists of the representatives of every branch of the military. They're not exactly chopped liver. And I assumed it was similar to the status of having a Joint Chiefs (Powell and that Polish guy under Clinton). I was mistaken. Their decision was still idiotic. -=Mike Powell and Shakiljkjivahsi were chairmen of the Joint Chiefs of Staff--a body which consists of the chairman, the vice chairman, the chief of staff of the army, the chief of naval operations, the chief of staff of the air force, and the commandant of the Marine Corps. That means that all of these individuals agreed to kill American civilians and such to spark a war with Cuba. And, yes, I agree that it was a dumb decision. Insightful.
SuperJerk Posted February 7, 2005 Report Posted February 7, 2005 WHAT? Mike dosn't know what the hell he's talking about? I'm shocked!
Guest MikeSC Posted February 7, 2005 Report Posted February 7, 2005 WHAT? Mike dosn't know what the hell he's talking about? I'm shocked! I feel like you. Except with wit. -=Mike
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