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I noticed a point made on the first page which bears repeating: the National Security Agency is the largest intelligence agency in the entire world. It has a budget and a staff that completely dward the CIA's. Yet... it seems like all we ever hear about is the CIA when it comes to foreign intelligence matters. Makes me wonder if there's a bit of intentional misdirection going on.

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This has Curtis LeMay's finger-prints all over it. If he wasn't involved, I'd be shocked.

 

 

Suddenly the people who claim the US government framed Lee Harvey Oswald sound a lot more reasonable.

 

After Operation: Ajax, nothing the US government did during the Cold War should surprise us.

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Hmm, a rejected plan from 40 years ago is current events how?

-=Mike

The story was about how the information was just released, which IS a current event.

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Hmm, a rejected plan from 40 years ago is current events how?

    -=Mike

The story was about how the information was just released, which IS a current event.

Again, how is a rejected plan from 40 years ago current events?

 

I don't care when it gets released --- it's relevant to today in what way, precisely?

-=Mike

..."Oooh, the military made some unpopular plans that the civilian leadership shot down. EEEEVIL!!!"

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Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

 

Again, how is a rejected plan from 40 years ago current events?

 

Again, the fact that the story is also about how we're just now finding out about it, today in the year 2005. Kind of like if we found ruins of an ancient alien civilization on the moon it'd be a current event, despite the fact that the aliens left them there thousands of years ago.

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Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

 

Again, how is a rejected plan from 40 years ago current events?

 

Again, the fact that the story is also about how we're just now finding out about it, today in the year 2005. Kind of like if we found ruins of an ancient alien civilization on the moon it'd be a current event, despite the fact that the aliens left them there thousands of years ago.

Again, a plan that was REJECTED before it was even seriously considered is considered current events or even important how?

-=Mike

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Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

 

Again, how is a rejected plan from 40 years ago current events?

 

Again, the fact that the story is also about how we're just now finding out about it, today in the year 2005. Kind of like if we found ruins of an ancient alien civilization on the moon it'd be a current event, despite the fact that the aliens left them there thousands of years ago.

Again, a plan that was REJECTED before it was even seriously considered is considered current events or even important how?

-=Mike

It had the written approval of all the Joint Chiefs of Staff!

 

Whether it's current events or not, it's still a pretty scary story.

 

Again, the fact that the story is also about how we're just now finding out about it, today in the year 2005.

The dateline on that story is May 1, 2001.

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Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

 

Again, how is a rejected plan from 40 years ago current events?

 

Again, the fact that the story is also about how we're just now finding out about it, today in the year 2005. Kind of like if we found ruins of an ancient alien civilization on the moon it'd be a current event, despite the fact that the aliens left them there thousands of years ago.

Again, a plan that was REJECTED before it was even seriously considered is considered current events or even important how?

-=Mike

Did you even READ the story?

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Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

 

Again, how is a rejected plan from 40 years ago current events?

 

Again, the fact that the story is also about how we're just now finding out about it, today in the year 2005. Kind of like if we found ruins of an ancient alien civilization on the moon it'd be a current event, despite the fact that the aliens left them there thousands of years ago.

Again, a plan that was REJECTED before it was even seriously considered is considered current events or even important how?

-=Mike

Did you even READ the story?

Yes. A plan was considered in 1962 to try and cause a war with Cuba.

 

It was shot down by McNamara before it was even seriously considered.

 

So, a plan that was not even close to being seriously considered for execution 40 years ago is relevant...how?

It had the written approval of all the Joint Chiefs of Staff!

So JFK had an idiot as Joint Chiefs. The people who actually MAKE the decisions shot it down summarily.

-=Mike

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Hmm, a rejected plan from 40 years ago is current events how?

    -=Mike

The story was about how the information was just released, which IS a current event.

Again, how is a rejected plan from 40 years ago current events?

 

I don't care when it gets released --- it's relevant to today in what way, precisely?

-=Mike

..."Oooh, the military made some unpopular plans that the civilian leadership shot down. EEEEVIL!!!"

He didn't say it was a current event. Read what the man says before you post or shut the fuck up you stupid fuck.

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Hmm, a rejected plan from 40 years ago is current events how?

    -=Mike

The story was about how the information was just released, which IS a current event.

Again, how is a rejected plan from 40 years ago current events?

 

I don't care when it gets released --- it's relevant to today in what way, precisely?

-=Mike

..."Oooh, the military made some unpopular plans that the civilian leadership shot down. EEEEVIL!!!"

He didn't say it was a current event. Read what the man says before you post or shut the fuck up you stupid fuck.

It's relevant in what way, oh poster child for abortion?

 

Go back and do whatever the fuck it is that you do. Don't worry, I'll be leaving again tomorrow. You can then go back to the days where dumb shit like this isn't called.

-=Mike

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Hmm, a rejected plan from 40 years ago is current events how?

    -=Mike

The story was about how the information was just released, which IS a current event.

Again, how is a rejected plan from 40 years ago current events?

 

I don't care when it gets released --- it's relevant to today in what way, precisely?

-=Mike

..."Oooh, the military made some unpopular plans that the civilian leadership shot down. EEEEVIL!!!"

He didn't say it was a current event. Read what the man says before you post or shut the fuck up you stupid fuck.

It's relevant in what way, oh poster child for abortion?

 

Go back and do whatever the fuck it is that you do. Don't worry, I'll be leaving again tomorrow. You can then go back to the days where dumb shit like this isn't called.

-=Mike

Don't worry. You'll be back. You can't help it. You are compelled.

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Hmm, a rejected plan from 40 years ago is current events how?

    -=Mike

The story was about how the information was just released, which IS a current event.

Again, how is a rejected plan from 40 years ago current events?

 

I don't care when it gets released --- it's relevant to today in what way, precisely?

-=Mike

..."Oooh, the military made some unpopular plans that the civilian leadership shot down. EEEEVIL!!!"

He didn't say it was a current event. Read what the man says before you post or shut the fuck up you stupid fuck.

It's relevant in what way, oh poster child for abortion?

 

Go back and do whatever the fuck it is that you do. Don't worry, I'll be leaving again tomorrow. You can then go back to the days where dumb shit like this isn't called.

-=Mike

Don't worry. You'll be back. You can't help it. You are compelled.

Nah. I will make the usual one shot deal --- but quite frankly, the intellectual level of this board has plummeted.

 

Horribly.

-=Mike

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Nah. I will make the usual one shot deal --- but quite frankly, the intellectual level of this board has plummeted.

 

Horribly.

-=Mike

The average will rebound significantly once you leave.

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Nah. I will make the usual one shot deal --- but quite frankly, the intellectual level of this board has plummeted.

 

Horribly.

            -=Mike

The average will rebound significantly once you leave.

Why? You'll be leaving too?

-=Mike

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Sorry, this isn't really a current event. But this seemed like the best folder to post it in.

 

Glad to see this thread is humming along nicely. Carry on with the substantive discussion of who's dumb.

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Sorry, this isn't really a current event. But this seemed like the best folder to post it in.

 

Glad to see this thread is humming along nicely. Carry on with the substantive discussion of who's dumb.

Doesn't make it a story.

 

A plan that was shot down by the civilian leadership before it was considered is only news to people who hate America.

-=Mike

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Sorry, this isn't really a current event. But this seemed like the best folder to post it in.

 

Glad to see this thread is humming along nicely. Carry on with the substantive discussion of who's dumb.

Doesn't make it a story.

 

A plan that was shot down by the civilian leadership before it was considered is only news to people who hate America.

-=Mike

That's me!

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So JFK had an idiot as Joint Chiefs. The people who actually MAKE the decisions shot it down summarily.

 

Actually there are 7 of them, cap'n. And they all agreed on these things.

 

And the Joint Chiefs consists of the representatives of every branch of the military.

 

They're not exactly chopped liver.

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So JFK had an idiot as Joint Chiefs. The people who actually MAKE the decisions shot it down summarily.

 

Actually there are 7 of them, cap'n. And they all agreed on these things.

 

And the Joint Chiefs consists of the representatives of every branch of the military.

 

They're not exactly chopped liver.

And I assumed it was similar to the status of having a Joint Chiefs (Powell and that Polish guy under Clinton). I was mistaken.

 

Their decision was still idiotic.

-=Mike

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So JFK had an idiot as Joint Chiefs. The people who actually MAKE the decisions shot it down summarily.

 

Actually there are 7 of them, cap'n. And they all agreed on these things.

 

And the Joint Chiefs consists of the representatives of every branch of the military.

 

They're not exactly chopped liver.

And I assumed it was similar to the status of having a Joint Chiefs (Powell and that Polish guy under Clinton). I was mistaken.

 

Their decision was still idiotic.

-=Mike

Powell and Shakiljkjivahsi were chairmen of the Joint Chiefs of Staff--a body which consists of the chairman, the vice chairman, the chief of staff of the army, the chief of naval operations, the chief of staff of the air force, and the commandant of the Marine Corps.

 

That means that all of these individuals agreed to kill American civilians and such to spark a war with Cuba.

 

And, yes, I agree that it was a dumb decision. Insightful.

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WHAT? Mike dosn't know what the hell he's talking about? I'm shocked!

I feel like you.

 

Except with wit.

-=Mike

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