Exslade ZX Posted February 22, 2005 Report Posted February 22, 2005 Well, yea, that simple, do they? Or would that just hurt the match? The thought occured to me, as I was playing SDvsRAW. I did JBL vs Cena at WM...but, in a ladder match. Pretty odd, considering it's JBL and Cena...but nonetheless, it was pretty fun. So, IRL, how would that work out? I mean, it's pretty clear, that neither of the main events will be that great 'wrestlingwise', at least on the smark scale. So does Batista/HHH need to be a HIAC, or JBL/Cena a Last man standing, etc. I think you get the point. (Just examples) Or do they just not need anything but the two participants, considering they've been built well. (well, Batista/HHH has, Cena/JBL less...but it's been built decently)
Hunter's Torn Quad Posted February 22, 2005 Report Posted February 22, 2005 Whatever the gimmick, the WM main event should end in a pinfall. That was one of the reasons the proposed Ladder match for Benoit, Shawn and Hunter never happened, because it was felt that the main event should end with a pinfall. And they're right. Gimmick the main event all you want if you need to hide weaknesses, but it has to end with a pinfall.
Slayer Posted February 22, 2005 Report Posted February 22, 2005 Whatever the gimmick, the WM main event should end in a pinfall. Or submission. Really, all I could ask for is a ref bump-less clean finish.
Hunter's Torn Quad Posted February 22, 2005 Report Posted February 22, 2005 Pinfall or submission, it doesn't matter, but it has to be decisive. No 10 count gimmickry or touching four corners rubbish.
Youth N Asia Posted February 22, 2005 Report Posted February 22, 2005 Cena vs Bradshaw should end in a bloodbath if it's going to keep my interest. I hate gimmick matches as Mania (see 2000). Maybe make it NHB or something, but nothing more then that.
iggymcfly Posted February 22, 2005 Report Posted February 22, 2005 Batista/HHH hs the epic quality already that it would be a shame to make it anything other than a singles match. JBL/Cena on the other hand, would still work fine as a singles match, but it might help them to throw in a special guest referee or something as well. On the one hand, they could use the guest ref to keep the cabinet away, and help JBL finally lose, or they could use him to help Cena lose the match without losing his heat. BTW, as for what they should actually do? Just give Cena the belt and get it over with. They can have him come out and join Batista at the end or something and play off how they're the future if they don't want him to get lost, but they really can't afford to have JBL win a main event for the WWE Title at Wrestlemania if they have any hope of restoring credibility to that belt or the Smackdown brand in general in the near future.
Guest The Shadow Behind You Posted February 22, 2005 Report Posted February 22, 2005 special guest referee is a gimmick match? If so then The obvious choice would be Foley just because he always guest refs big matches. However; I'd perfer two straight up matches since JBL/Cena likely gets dragged out, they can blow it off in a gimmick match there.
Guest Arnold_OldSchool Posted February 22, 2005 Report Posted February 22, 2005 Raw's more screwed than SD! is for fresh PPV main eventers after mania.
Exslade ZX Posted February 23, 2005 Author Report Posted February 23, 2005 Raw's more screwed than SD! is for fresh PPV main eventers after mania. Not really. Well, sort of, as in all the possible main eventers have had matches with either HHH or Batista before..but then again, that's something that can't be avoided. Just like most of the people on SD have had matches with Cena and JBL before. But there's still Edge of course. He should definitely be in line for the next shot. And then of course, even though they're kind of 'upper mids/midcarders' right now...or whatever, there's Benoit, Jericho, HBK, Orton, Christian, Flair could get a shot, who knows...they might even want to give Hassan a decent sized push. As I said, they're not exactly 'main eventer's but they are all credible enough to get a title shot, as well as a few other people on rAW.
gWIL Posted February 23, 2005 Report Posted February 23, 2005 At this point SmackDown HAS to add something to JBL/Cena if only because Batista whom they built up in the main event won't be a part of that match. It will seem less special if it's just JBL vs Cena. They have to something to save face. Adding in an Austin or a Foley as the ref would help.
Guest Evolution Posted February 23, 2005 Report Posted February 23, 2005 I don't think a guest ref is necessary for either main event match. Leave Triple H/Batista alone, but give JBL/Cena a street fight with the cabinet banned from ringside. Have Cena cut some promos about how JBL may be riding in limos, but when he comes to Wrestlemania, he'll be in a street fight, which is Cena's turf, etc. Now, I think it would be good to have some kind of special guest referee for whatever Hassan ends up in (perhaps Foley could go there and they bring up Foley's promo during Hassan's early days).
algrim Posted February 23, 2005 Report Posted February 23, 2005 I think Stone Cold should be the guest referee for the Angle/HBK match, since he's wrestled the two in the past. It would be an obvious choice.
Guest Brian Posted February 23, 2005 Report Posted February 23, 2005 I think if they execute properly, than the gimmick is usually unnecessary. This is the biggest match of the year, the title fight (or ascent) that they've built up to so well. They shouldn't need any extra excitement than a good, long match with a strong pay-off. My feeling on gimmicks is that the situation will dictate their need; when you need to, storyline-wise, "cage" two opposing wrestlers together, or to settle a grudge to the point where it is the only logical step or porgression. I think both expected title matches should be able to stand on their own; and the only type of gimmick I'd expect would be something to keep others away from the ring. I think most Mania matches should be able to stand on their own without the gimmicktry, though I can understand the instances that dictate extras.
Guest Ransome Posted February 23, 2005 Report Posted February 23, 2005 I think Stone Cold should be the guest referee for the Angle/HBK match, since he's wrestled the two in the past. It would be an obvious choice. So? Benoit has wrestled both HBK and Angle, how is he any less an obvious choice than Austin? Point is, HBK/Angle needs no guest ref. The matchup sells itself, and adding anything else into the mix only detracts from that. They *need* to play up on the fact that these are two world class athletes who have, due to external factors, never had an opportunity to wrestle eachother. No need for guest refs or 'you killed my baby so I'm gonna kick your ass' backstories.
Guest FromBeyondTheGrave Posted February 23, 2005 Report Posted February 23, 2005 I think Stone Cold should be the guest referee for the Angle/HBK match, since he's wrestled the two in the past. It would be an obvious choice. So? Benoit has wrestled both HBK and Angle, how is he any less an obvious choice than Austin? I think he was being sarcastic, cowboy.
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