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Hockey's Best Era

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Assuming each era is:

 

Early days(1917-1930)

The 30's

The 40's

The Early 50's(50-55)

Hab Dynasty of the 50's(55-60)

Leaf Dynasty(62-67)

Expansion(67-73)

Flyers/Habs Era (74-79)

Islanders Era (80-83)

Oilers Era(84-90)

Pre-Strike(91-95)

Post-Strike(95-present)

 

For any reasons, whether your team was dominant, players you liked, good moments, whichever.

 

I say Pre-Strike. Habs win the Cup for the only time I was old enough to see, hockey had just enough teams at 24(though I prefer 21, but Ottawa is big). 92-93 was a great year all around, tradition was rampant with the 100th anniversary, and I defy you to find better hockey than the 93-94 Cup finals.

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Guest Rrrsh

Oilers. Defensive struggles can be entertaning in some sports.

 

Just not hockey

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Actually, I really enjoyed the pre-strike era. A goal was something to get really excited about when it happened, but you still knew that you'd at least get one or two eventually.

 

Watching the Senators play three playoff games against the Leafs and get one goal is just about as entertaining as going to the dentist and having him knock out all my teeth with a hammer.

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From a "for the good of the game" perspective, I'd go with the Oilers era ... high scoring games with tons of hitting and brawls. And, most importantly, minimal clutching and hooking and all the crap that makes the game so ugly.

 

From a local perspective, I'd go with the Expansion era ... two words: Bobby. Orr.

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Watching the Senators play three playoff games against the Leafs and get one goal is just about as entertaining as going to the dentist and having him knock out all my teeth with a hammer.

I don't know, I thought that was pretty exciting.

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I say Oilers of the options. But I would agree with DerangedHermit if I had to give a direct year to when it started getting really good to when it started to free fall.

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The '80s had too much scoring and not enough defense, plus the added bonus of having the Soilers winning the Cup every year.

 

The best time for hockey was the pre-strike era, where there was a good balance of both, not to mention shitty Edmonton teams.

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The '80s had too much scoring and not enough defense, plus the added bonus of having the Soilers winning the Cup every year.

 

The best time for hockey was the pre-strike era, where there was a good balance of both, not to mention shitty Edmonton teams.

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Many hockey fans now wish that the game was more like it was in the 80's (and I don't blame them because in recent years it's often been a monotonous clutch-and-grab fest with scoring chances that would've been a goal 20 years ago being easily swallowed up by an oversized goalie). It is interesting to note that when the trend towards more scoring began to develope post-WHA, not everyone was happy about it because they felt that defensive play was being completely abandoned and some even thought the game was becoming less physical. Here's an old Sports Illustrated article that I saw awhile back:

 

The puck doesn’t stop here

By Mike DelNegro

Sports Illustrated

November 16, 1981

 

They are pointing an accusing finger at Bobby Orr and Mike Bossy. They’re blaming Europe, Swiss-Cheese goalies and coaches. Everybody is in a dither over the fact that the scoring in the NHL games is assuming NBA proportions.

 

Take last Saturday night: Boston 10, Quebec 1; Toronto 9, Los Angeles 4; Pittsburgh 7, Philadelphia. On Sunday it was Chicago 10, Calgary 4.

 

Nine or more goals were scored in 68 of the first 154 games this season. There have been no 1-0 or 2-0 games and only five shutouts. All but three teams have given up seven or more goals at least once.

 

Three weeks ago the Flyers faced Montreal; both teams were undefeated at the time. In the days when Bernie Parent and Ken Dryden were the goalies, these clubs played classic close-to-the-vest hockey. Not this time. The game was an 11-2 blowout for the Canadiens. Six nights later in Quebec, Montreal was up 4-1 after one period. Once upon a time a three-goal lead was as safe as a certificate of deposit. No longer. Quebec cranked up and won 5-4.

 

“It used to be you’d get three or four goals and you were a cinch to win,” says Pittsburgh GM Baz Bastien. “Now you can score five, and there’s a good chance you’ll lose.” The statistics support his observation.

 

The beginnings of the trend were evident last season. Montreal, which won the Vezina Trophy for giving up the fewest goals (232), was scored on 28 times more than any previous Vezina winner had been. In 1953-54 the six NHL teams scored a total of 1,009 goals, an average of 4.8 a game.

 

Last year the league’s 21 clubs averaged 7.7 goals, the highest since the NHL introduced the center red line in 1943. And so far this season, the average has jumped to 8.1. Contrary to popular assumption the increase cannot be attributed to more shots on goal. In fact, they have remained fairly constant over the last two decades. (Chart not shown)

 

The ones suffering the most are, of course, the goalies. Look at what happened to Chicago’s Tony Esposito. In 1970-71, Espo yielded 1.76 goals a game. Last year he gave up 3.75. So far this season, souped-up rival attacks have burned him for 5.37 goals a game. “Low averages are getting to be impossible,” says Esposito. “Today you can go through a whole season without a shutout.” In 1969-70 Esposito had a league-high 15 shutouts in 63 games. In 1979-80 he led the league with six. Last year he had none for the first time in his career.

 

It isn’t just the powerhouses that are running up scores, either. Against Calgary two weeks ago, Detroit got a dozen goals. That’s more than the Red Wings had scored in a game since 1944. To prove that barrage was no fluke, last week the Red Wings scored 10 goals against the Kings. Philadelphia has given up 42 goals in its last six games, and Edmonton already has scored 81 goals in 15 games. Last year the Oilers didn’t score their 81st goal until Nov. 28. Two Oilers, Paul Coffey (21 points) and Risto Siltanen (19), are among the league’s top scorers. And they’re defensemen.

 

“Fans like to see 6-5 games more than 1-0 games,” says Edmonton’s Wayne Gretzky, who has 15 goals and 14 assists and is three games ahead of his record setting scoring pace of last season. “I know we prefer them, too. If we can get into a basketball game, we love it.”

 

Many purists maintain that the primary reason scoring is going through the roof is that today’s players are trigger-happy. They are the biggest, fastest and most accomplished skaters the NHL has ever seen. And just about every one of them is a shooter. “In my time you could cheat a little,” says former Black Hawk Goaltender Glenn Hall. “You’d say; ‘The shot is going to come from there because that’s where the goal-scorer is.’ Now they’re all goal-scorers.”

 

What has been happening, says Chicago Coach Keith Magnuson, is simple enough: “In junior hockey a young player concentrates on offense because he knows that that more he scores, the higher he’ll be drafted.” Well before he reaches the NHL, a player knows that scorers earn the biggest bucks. Also, since expansion in 1979-80 and the lowering of the minimum draft age to 18 in 1978, the NHL has been overrun with young players.

 

The average age in 25.3, the lowest in history. What these youngsters do best is shoot, shoot, shoot. “The shooters are definitely smarter,” says Montreal Goalie Rick Wamsley. “They don’t waste time with the puck. They’ve seen the success that Bossy has had with the Islanders, and he doesn’t look before he shoots. A puck hits his stick and he lets fly. The goaltender has no time to get set.”

 

It’s tempting to blame the scoring explosion on poor goaltending. While the quality of NHL goaltending is at a ridiculously low level, these beleaguered guardians all too often are left to fend for themselves. The era of the defensive defensemen—someone who hung tough to protect his goalie—is long gone. “Defense doesn’t matter anymore,” says Frank Mahovlich, the former Maple Leaf, Red Wing and Canadien marksmen, “not only to defensemen, but to forwards as well. Forwards don’t come back to help out often enough, so there are more scoring chances and therefore more goals. Today everyone goes for goals. We did in my day, too. But we also checked. No one does that job now.”

 

Says former Boston Coach Don Cherry, “There’s no contact anywhere in the game this year. When was the last time a team drafted a checker?” According to St. Louis Center Mike Zuke, “Probably the hardest commodity to find in hockey is a defensive defensemen. Agents, for young players especially, can’t sell there clients on the intangibles of defense; they can’t show statistics on that.”

 

Today’s young defensemen are products of what one NHL coach calls “the Bobby Orr baby boom.” Orr revolutionized the concept of playing defense. He controlled play, handled the puck, shot and scored. “The best defensemen today are offensive defensemen,” says Toronto GM Punch Imlach. “Orr’s responsible for that. Everyone is trying to play the way he did. Naturally, they can’t.”

 

What’s more, no longer do NHL coaches rely chiefly on one line to light up the scoreboard. Most teams now have two or three that can. What with all the firepower from defensemen as well as forwards, coaches have quit trying to protect leads. A few years ago teams would get one or two goals ahead and play keep-away. Toronto won Stanley Cups in 1962, ’63, and ’64 by making one goal look as big as 10; old opponents must still bear the marks left by the Leafs’ barbed-wire defense. But now, a lead is merely a spark for piling on more goals.

 

Moreover, coaching—read teaching—is a lost art in North America, except on the college level. In the Soviet Union, teams practice three times as often as they play. In the NHL, however, with an 80-game, six-month schedule, teams typically play three games in a week while practicing only twice.

 

Still another factor in the scoring surge has been the replacement of oversized, immobile goons with small, quick players who can score. This swing toward speedy skaters is largely the result of the European influence on the NHL. In 1975-76 there were 12 European-born players on the NHL rosters. Now there are 54.

 

“Because of the larger ice surface in Europe, a player has to skate well to be a star over there,” says Montreal Managing Director Irving Grundman. “But it’s well known that the Europeans aren’t as strong defensively, especially in their own zone, as NHL players are.” Yet, Europeans have largely taken the place of enforcers who couldn’t score. Time was a club had only a few players who got 20 goals in a season. Last St. Louis had 10 with 20 or more.

 

As the pucks fly, it’s easy to see that there is also more individualism out there than ever before. Edmonton Coach Glen Sather tells Gretzky he doesn’t care if he checks. Montreal’s Mark Napier says, “It takes more of a team effort to win by a shutout than to win in a shootout.”

 

And such team efforts are becoming increasing rare. Whether the scoring explosion is good for the sport is another matter. Hockey people disagree. Several executives around the league concur with Red Wings’ Coach Wayne Maxner, who says, “People came to see Bobby Hull shoot the puck. They didn’t come to see him check.”

 

Perhaps, but people don’t go to games to see cheap goals and one-way hockey. As Ed Van Impe, a former defensive defenseman for the Flyers, points out. “For the life of me, I can’t understand why the European should dictate the style of play in the NHL. Hockey is very entertaining over Europe, but it’s like the Ice Capades.”

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The reason why Europe is blamed for the slow down of the game, is because the origin of the trap defense was actually created by a European coach (forgot his name) and hence, everyone blames Europe for it.

 

Even though, its actually the league's fault that the trap is used.

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For me, the best era is probably the early nineties. I don't think I ever watched as much hockey as I did back then.

 

Great time to be a Leafs fan too. Douggie, Dave Andreychuk, Kypreos, Baumgartner, etc. etc. Whenever they played Detroit in the Playoffs, THAT shit was exciting. I don't think that there was a better time to be a Leafs fan in recent memory.

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The problem with putting Toronto back with those teams is that it hurts the natural rivalries that they have with Montreal and Ottawa, and to a lesser extent Buffalo and Boston.

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The reason why Europe is blamed for the slow down of the game, is because the origin of the trap defense was actually created by a European coach (forgot his name) and hence, everyone blames Europe for it.

 

Even though, its actually the league's fault that the trap is used.

I'm pretty positive that it was the Czech coach from the 70's that brought up the style of play.

 

Mind you the actual trap is a great game to watch, but with the clutching and grabbing going with the trap, it has become boring.

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The '80s had too much scoring and not enough defense, plus the added bonus of having the Soilers winning the Cup every year.

 

The best time for hockey was the pre-strike era, where there was a good balance of both, not to mention shitty Edmonton teams.

Dogbert

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Just sayin'

So I'm biased. Oh well.

 

I do count 1989 as "pre-strike".

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The problem with putting Toronto back with those teams is that it hurts the natural rivalries that they have with Montreal and Ottawa, and to a lesser extent Buffalo and Boston.

But the realignment hurt their natural rivalries with Chicago and Detroit!

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I want Toronto in the same division as St. Louis, Chicago, Detroit, and Minnesota when hockey comes back. That's the way it should be.

Secord Sucks!

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The problem with putting Toronto back with those teams is that it hurts the natural rivalries that they have with Montreal and Ottawa, and to a lesser extent Buffalo and Boston.

But the realignment hurt their natural rivalries with Chicago and Detroit!

I'll give you Detroit, since it's so close to Ontario ... but Chicago only had a natural rivalry because both were Original 6 teams; it really doesn't have more of a natural rivalry than Boston or New York.

 

Plus, the Battle for Ontario & the rivalry with Montreal are > the rivalry with Detroit.

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I actually like it better when Toronto and Montreal played only two games a year. It made the rivalry just better I thought.

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The problem with putting Toronto back with those teams is that it hurts the natural rivalries that they have with Montreal and Ottawa, and to a lesser extent Buffalo and Boston.

But the realignment hurt their natural rivalries with Chicago and Detroit!

I'll give you Detroit, since it's so close to Ontario ... but Chicago only had a natural rivalry because both were Original 6 teams; it really doesn't have more of a natural rivalry than Boston or New York.

 

Plus, the Battle for Ontario & the rivalry with Montreal are > the rivalry with Detroit.

Who says being close = rivalry? Detroit and Colorado are bitter rivals and they're time zones apart. Also, I'd say Original Six trumps geography any day of the week in determining rivalries. Ottawa just came in the league in '92. The Blackhawks, Red Wings, and Maple Leafs have been going at it for the better part of 90 years now. And besides, it seemed better when Toronto and Montreal could meet in the finals.

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Czech, I don't think that it's an automatic that close = rivalry, much the same way that distance doesn't mean that teams can't be rivals. Your Colorado-Detroit example is a perfect example of the latter. But I think having teams play in close proximity to each other helps add to the rivalry.

 

I went to a Toronto-Buffalo game a few seasons ago, and there seemed to be as many Leafs fans as Sabres fans there. The place was electric with energy, and it seemed that the players were feeding off it. Plus, look at match-ups like Calgary-Edmonton. Even when both teams are down&out there seems to be something extra in those games. And I feel it's the same way with Toronto-Ottawa; the fact that they have annual playoff battles certainly helps, too.

 

The Blackhawks, Red Wings, and Maple Leafs have been going at it for the better part of 90 years now
Replace Blackhawks with Rangers & Red Wings with Bruins and this statement is still true. Although I will concede that there were the years that the Leafs were in the West and thus played the Wings & Hawks more than NY and Boston.

 

I will give you that the chance to have a Toronto-Montreal Cup is pretty sweet, though.

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