Precious Roy Posted March 22, 2005 Report Posted March 22, 2005 Well fuck me, this is what happens when I try to do shit half asleep and half drugged.... edit coming in a minute
MrRant Posted March 22, 2005 Report Posted March 22, 2005 Well fuck me, this is what happens when I try to do shit half asleep and half drugged.... edit coming in a minute You fucked up! You fucked up!
teke184 Posted March 22, 2005 Report Posted March 22, 2005 And with the 16th pick of the draft, the New Orleans Saints choose... Corey Webster, CB, LSU The Saints are in dire need of a good cornerback to shut down the opponent's passing game. Webster is a good choice because he has great hands, excellent instincts for his position, can protect on the run, and is larger than the average CB. Considering that the Saints defense needs all the help it can get, a draft pick with Webster's instincts lurking in the backfield (he nearly set the LSU career record for INTs) could be the difference between another .500 season and the playoffs.
Guest Vitamin X Posted March 22, 2005 Report Posted March 22, 2005 Yes! The guy I want to draft is still there after the top 10.. Amazing... (although I probably just jinxed it, but fuck- only 9 more to go!!)
UZI Suicide Posted March 22, 2005 Report Posted March 22, 2005 Sorry for missing my first pick(although you picked who I would have taken anyway), I'll definitely make it for the rest of my picks though.
the pinjockey Posted March 22, 2005 Author Report Posted March 22, 2005 Comp picks have been announced (link) and the picks in the third and fourth rounds have been added. Affected teams Denver - Two 3rds (97 and 101) Tennessee - One 3rd (96) and One 4th (136) Seattle - One 3rd (98) Kansas City - One 3rd (99) New England - One 3rd (100) St. Louis - One 4th (134) Indianapolis - One 4th (135)
the pinjockey Posted March 22, 2005 Author Report Posted March 22, 2005 Cincinnati's time has expired. If anyone wants to make the pick, go ahead. Minnesota is on the clock.
LaParkaMarka Posted March 22, 2005 Report Posted March 22, 2005 I'm pulling a Jacksonville, Cinci's time is up. With the 18th pick in the 2005 NFL Draft, the Minnesota Vikings select... Cadillac Williams, RB, Auburn Strengths: Excellent pure athletic ability and talent...Amazing vision...Can change direction and cut on a dime...Plays much faster than his timed speed and is extremely quick...Very hard to tackle and a tough runner...Outstanding balance...Has the "It" factor and intuition that all the great ones possess...Has the potential to be a franchise running back in the NFL. Weaknesses: Doesn't have the size you look for...Good, but not great, speed...Durability is a concern because he missed a lot of action early in his career...Not a great blocker...Isn't a great receiver out of the backfield...Shared carries with Ronnie Brown and you wonder if he can carry the load fulltime. ----------------------------------------------------- Any of my targeted players are reaches at this point, so the real life Vikings would probably trade down. Since I can't, I'll grab the best player available; Cadillac gives the Vikings a ridiculously deep rushing attack. Time to trade Michael Bennett to Arizona.
the pinjockey Posted March 22, 2005 Author Report Posted March 22, 2005 Cincy will take Thomas Davis, S/LB Georgia Rams are on the clock
Guest Vitamin X Posted March 22, 2005 Report Posted March 22, 2005 Any of my targeted players are reaches at this point, so the real life Vikings would probably trade down. Since I can't, I'll grab the best player available; Cadillac gives the Vikings a ridiculously deep rushing attack. Time to trade Michael Bennett to Arizona. Not just a ridiculously deep rushing attack; a cool name as well. I expect numerous Cadillac jokes throughout the season depending on how the Vikes use their running game (which for a while I thought could be sparsely considering how Tice has used it in the past, but now that the Randy Ratio is gone...)
LaParkaMarka Posted March 22, 2005 Report Posted March 22, 2005 Any of my targeted players are reaches at this point, so the real life Vikings would probably trade down. Since I can't, I'll grab the best player available; Cadillac gives the Vikings a ridiculously deep rushing attack. Time to trade Michael Bennett to Arizona. Not just a ridiculously deep rushing attack; a cool name as well. I expect numerous Cadillac jokes throughout the season depending on how the Vikes use their running game (which for a while I thought could be sparsely considering how Tice has used it in the past, but now that the Randy Ratio is gone...) Oh, it's guaranteed. Those headline writers will have a field day. When Williams is stopped on third and short: THE CADILLAC HAS STALLED When Williams breaks a few tackles for a big run: CADILLAC IS REVVING UP When Williams goes on some insane postgame rant and starts screaming at reporters: CADILLAC OR PINTO? And so on.
teke184 Posted March 22, 2005 Report Posted March 22, 2005 I've already heard enough "Cadillac should be upgraded to Escalade" jokes for one lifetime after this past SEC season...
Guest Flyboy Posted March 22, 2005 Report Posted March 22, 2005 1. I think the Saints' should have taken Thomas Davis. 2. ... The Vikings taking a running back in the first round? ... Urm...
LaParkaMarka Posted March 22, 2005 Report Posted March 22, 2005 2. ... The Vikings taking a running back in the first round? ... Urm... I know, it's a bad pick. But like I said, there's no one who can really fill a need for the Vikings that is worth taking at this spot (a kicker? yeah right. Williamson is gone, etc). Might as well take a top-three back.
Guest Flyboy Posted March 23, 2005 Report Posted March 23, 2005 I didn't realize the Vikings had a decent pass rush.
the pinjockey Posted March 23, 2005 Author Report Posted March 23, 2005 See the Vikings first pick for that. And why am I not shocked you wanted Davis for N.O. How many years now have you been begging for any secondary help, since at least Trufant isn't it?
Guest Flyboy Posted March 23, 2005 Report Posted March 23, 2005 See the Vikings first pick for that. Pffft. Shaun Cody or Anttaj Hawthorne well have been a nice pick as well. James, Cody/Hawthorne, Udeze, and Kevin Williams for a defensive line? Very young and raw, but that's still a lot of talent. And why am I not shocked you wanted Davis for N.O. How many years now have you been begging for any secondary help, since at least Trufant isn't it? I just feel it was a bit of a reach for Webster. And, I've been wanting secondary help ever since we traded up and drafted (up to this point and I don't see it changing) a bust in Jonathan Sullivan.. fuckin' fatty. I like Thomas Davis because if we can't use him in the secondary, he could easily play an OLB for us which we need as well. If I would have taken a CB, it would have been Carlos Rogers instead of Webster -- I just find him to be the better prospect, IMO.
the pinjockey Posted March 23, 2005 Author Report Posted March 23, 2005 Ok, but then you are expecting teke to pick an Auburn guy over a LSU guy. I do agree with you though about liking Rogers more than Webster.
Guest Flyboy Posted March 23, 2005 Report Posted March 23, 2005 Yep, that's exactly what crossed my mind when I saw the pick, but it's okay, teke. I'll forgive you.
Precious Roy Posted March 23, 2005 Report Posted March 23, 2005 How do people rate the Travis Johnson --> KC pick? Honestly, I'm not a big college football follower, or a KC fan, but the teams I wanted (Pats or Browns) were picked....
Guest Flyboy Posted March 23, 2005 Report Posted March 23, 2005 I actually think it was a tremendous pick. Kudos to you.
Vern Gagne Posted March 23, 2005 Report Posted March 23, 2005 There's a good possibility that the Vikings will trade one of the RB's before the draft. Besides, Smith is a joint away from a year long suspension, and Moore and Williams aren't really starting running backs. Depending on what goes down, via trade. A running back is a possibility for Minnesota, more likely the 7th pick though.
Guest Flyboy Posted March 23, 2005 Report Posted March 23, 2005 This year's draft is so running back deep that them selecting a running back in the first round is still a bit... skeptical. Minnesota's running game sort of reminded me of the 'Denver system' or even 'KC's system' everyone always talks about. Is it as good as their system? No, but I think they can plug any of their running backs on the chart and get decent-to-good production from them. And, if Michael Bennett could stay healthy he could be a star-type running back.
the pinjockey Posted March 23, 2005 Author Report Posted March 23, 2005 It will probably be different this year, though, as not having Moss they are more likely to see a safety in the box then they have the last few seasons. I do agree with you about the RB depth. Even if Minnesota moved one or two of their backs, two out of Bennett/Moore/Smith/Williams together with a Ciatrick Fason/Verand Morency level back should be more than enough without having to use the number 7 pick on one of the big three.
Guest Flyboy Posted March 23, 2005 Report Posted March 23, 2005 It will probably be different this year, though, as not having Moss they are more likely to see a safety in the box then they have the last few seasons. I concur, sir. Ciatrick Fason/Verand Morency level back should be more than enough without having to use the number 7 pick on one of the big three. Or a first round pick in general. Morency and Fason are probably going to be in the 2nd round no matter what so it just really made me scratch my head. That's all I was saying.
Guest Flyboy Posted March 23, 2005 Report Posted March 23, 2005 And, if you say that there wasn't a WR worth a #17 pick (I can't remember who said it) then I'm going to disagree. Mark Clayton is so underrated it's not even funny -- and I HATE HATE HATE OU.
LaParkaMarka Posted March 23, 2005 Report Posted March 23, 2005 It's a value pick. Getting a guy who should have been top ten at 17 is great, especially when he's a potential franchise back. James and Udeze should be fine at End, their linebacking corps is decent, their secondary is frightening. TE is set with Wiggins and Kleinsasser, they're fine at QB. Maybe an OT or Guard could have been taken with the pick. Or a WR. Clayton is small. What, 5'10? He runs a good 40, but I see him being a Santana Moss type receiver. Which is fine, but not what I want for the Vikes.
Guest Flyboy Posted March 23, 2005 Report Posted March 23, 2005 It's a value pick. Getting a guy who should have been top ten at 17 is great, especially when he's a potential franchise back. I totally understand that -- just like STL picking Steven Jackson last year, but I'm just saying Minnesota's depth is so deep at running back and they have other holes to still address. I don't agree with their linebacking corps being "decent"... they underachieve greatly, but there is no LB I would have taken at #17 since DJ is gone. I'm not up on all the FA signings, but I know that Chavous isn't getting younger and Russell is HORRID in coverage.. or horrible as a safety in general... Thomas Davis would have been pro. Or Mark Clayton since they do have a glaring hole at the WR position now -- that's all I'm saying. EDIT: Clayton is small. What, 5'10? Steve Smith (CAR) is only 5'9" and if I remember correctly two seasons ago he was beginning to tear up the league as a WR before his injury this past season. Clayton is sure-handed (doesn't drop much of anything thrown to him) and has some of the best moves I have seen after the catch for a WR in awhile. Size and 40 times are extremely blown out of proportion in the NFL, too.
Vern Gagne Posted March 23, 2005 Report Posted March 23, 2005 I actually think the Vikings should take Clayton at 18 or wait get a WR later in the draft, instead of Williams or Edwards at 7. Use that pick on defense. The Vikings just traded a big fast receiver, why immdediatley draft a WR, similiar to Moss?
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