Championship Manager 5

[Lightning Flik 0]

Hiya. I recently got Championship Manager 5 via various means and was just hoping someone could sorta help me out with it.

 

How does one move up from a league to a different league? Reason I ask is because I want to take Luton Town from League One to the Premiership. I know you can do it, but I'm unsure of how it is managed. Do you just need to make the top "so many" teams? Or is there more to it than that?

 

Is there any players (like uber cheap) that would be suggestable to being must haves for my team? I've spotted a few, but was wondering if anyone knew of any.

 

Also, could someone explain to me how the different styles of formation work? Is there certain types of players needed for different styles?

[rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0]

So far as the leagues go, League One and The Championship have a 46 (i believe) game season, each team home and away. At the end of the season, the top two teams get promoted automatically to the next division, the next four go into the playoffs. The third team plays the sixth, and the fourth plays fith, home and away. The winner of those two games on aggregate go to the Playoff final, where the winner is again promoted.

 

For the formations, your best bet is to watch some soccer and see what players play where. It's very difficult to describe, but your best bet is to get together the best team you can, play some friendlies and experiment.

[Lightning Flik 0]

So that's what the brown thing was on teams 3-6. I kinda figured the green on the top two meant they got promoted, but I wasn't sure about the brown.

 

Do you get like a huge payroll and transfer increase if you jump into the next league? Cause I'm like $300,000 in debt and only getting worse (god damned injuries >_<) and cheap players are hard to find. Would loans be cheaper than hiring out lots of talent? Or should I just get cheap talent instead of loans?

 

Also I've got like 6 coaches, 3 of whom I had sign on with me and suck really badly and 3 who are really nice. I was thinking of ditching the other 3 whom sucked, but each one's got better rankings in 1 category than my good 3 coaches. Does it really matter if I keep all 6, or should I dump the 3 bad ones?

 

As for formations, I got a kinda neat one I did up recently. Its a 2-2-7 formation. Its kinda cool in that all the players end up making sure you can't get into the middle and it literially makes it killer for the amount of shots you get on net (I think I had like 20 shots on target in one game). Also allows most shots on the goalkeeper (your team) to come from the outside rather than straight up the middle, thereby allowing him to easily make saves, yet nothing dangerous. Callum Fallangan is like my top scorer with like 8 in league goals from this strategy.

 

Um... do you happen to have any players I can look into aquiring? Probably not this season since I'm like down to like $60,000 on transfer fees, but any hopefuls that I could shop for during the next season?

 

Oh and about Cup stuff. I know there's like UEFA and like Euro Championship, and apparently a little one I got entered into (I forgot which one), but not how they work. Could someone explain that?

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So that's what the brown thing was on teams 3-6. I kinda figured the green on the top two meant they got promoted, but I wasn't sure about the brown.

 

Yup. From the Championship, the top two teams go straight into the Premiership. Team 3 plays Team 6, and Team 4 plays Team 5 - both games are two legs, home and away. The overall winner from those games goes into the Playoff finals - usually held the last Monday in May. Winner of that joins Teams 1 and 2 in the Premiership.

 

If you're in League One, you'll go up into the Championship first. Coke got all the leagues renamed as part of their sponsorship of the lower leagues this season, so now League One is two tiers beneath the Prem, not one.

 

Do you get like a huge payroll and transfer increase if you jump into the next league? Cause I'm like $300,000 in debt and only getting worse (god damned injuries >_<) and cheap players are hard to find. Would loans be cheaper than hiring out lots of talent? Or should I just get cheap talent instead of loans?

 

In theory, yes. Promotion to the Premiership guarantees a lot of television revenue, plus increased sponsorship and attendance. Likewise, going up to the Championship will increase your revenue for the same reasons, but not to as big an extent. But your player wage demands will probably get bigger too. If you're looking at cheap players for your squad, have a look for anyone out of contract, then offer them trials. Loaning players from Premiership clubs is a good way too, as you may not have to pay all their wages if you can negotiate successfully with the club.

 

Also I've got like 6 coaches, 3 of whom I had sign on with me and suck really badly and 3 who are really nice. I was thinking of ditching the other 3 whom sucked, but each one's got better rankings in 1 category than my good 3 coaches. Does it really matter if I keep all 6, or should I dump the 3 bad ones?

 

Do you mean suck bad in that the players don't get on with them, or that they're crap at coaching? Six coaches for a lower league side is quite a lot, so you could probably cull the ones you don't want and get away with it. You may have to pay them compensation though, so make sure you've got some cash first.

 

As for formations, I got a kinda neat one I did up recently. Its a 2-2-7 formation. Its kinda cool in that all the players end up making sure you can't get into the middle and it literially makes it killer for the amount of shots you get on net (I think I had like 20 shots on target in one game). Also allows most shots on the goalkeeper (your team) to come from the outside rather than straight up the middle, thereby allowing him to easily make saves, yet nothing dangerous. Callum Fallangan is like my top scorer with like 8 in league goals from this strategy.

 

Tactics is a personal thing, but I'm presuming you mean from that two defenders, two midfielders and seven forwards, which is just terrifying! Tradition would be either 4-4-2 or 3-5-2, although the vogue in European football, and especially English football, at the moment is 4-1-4-1, with four defenders, a defensive midfielder, four attack minded midfielders and a lone forward.

 

Experimenting is the best way to find the perfect balance and if 2-2-7 works for you (and where does the keeper come into that?!) stick with it. You may find teams that hit you on the break more though.

 

Um... do you happen to have any players I can look into aquiring? Probably not this season since I'm like down to like $60,000 on transfer fees, but any hopefuls that I could shop for during the next season?

 

You can try loan deals and Bosmans (players without a club or contract). Hull are a good team to talent raid, if you're in the lower leagues. If you have Scotland enabled, Hibernian and/or Motherwell are virtual conveyor belts of young players you can get cheaply who are decent.

 

Oh and about Cup stuff. I know there's like UEFA and like Euro Championship, and apparently a little one I got entered into (I forgot which one), but not how they work. Could someone explain that?

 

If you're only in League One, you'll have to go some to get into the UEFA or European Cup!

 

Cup tourneys are knock-out tournaments, random draws for each round, eliminating it down to eventually just two. Some may be two-legged affairs, some may be one leg with a replay in the event of a tie, and some may go to penalties and decide on the night, depending on the competition.

 

Except for the Uefa and European Cups, which operate mini-leagues at one stage, but you don't need to worry about that just now!

 

The main one is the FA Cup, oldest cup competition in the world and something the English are proud of (but I'm Scots, so it doesn't bother me as much). Winning that carries a lot of prestige and entry into the UEFA Cup.

 

Really, the best things I can suggest Flik are watch as much English soccer as you can, and even local games just to get the feel of formations etc, and experiment. There's loads of transfer tip websites and stuff to keep an eye out for, which might give you some idea of players to look at, although you should also have scouts who can do that in the game for you.

 

And I'd suggest ditching CM5 and getting Football Manager (or Worldwide Soccer Manager, or whatever it's called outside the UK) since it's a far better, more intuitive game.

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Yup.  From the Championship, the top two teams go straight into the Premiership.  Team 3 plays Team 6, and Team 4 plays Team 5 - both games are two legs, home and away.  The overall winner from those games goes into the Playoff finals - usually held the last Monday in May.  Winner of that joins Teams 1 and 2 in the Premiership.

 

If you're in League One, you'll go up into the Championship first.  Coke got all the leagues renamed as part of their sponsorship of the lower leagues this season, so now League One is two tiers beneath the Prem, not one.

 

Coke got all the league changes made? Geezus, that's kinda weird that one sponsor could change everything. But still, kinda neat how that works. BTW, if you get 1st, do you get the Cup? Or how does that work. As my board is expecting me to get the Cup, yet I'm not sure how I'd get the Cup if there isn't a playoff thing for it.

 

In theory, yes.  Promotion to the Premiership guarantees a lot of television revenue, plus increased sponsorship and attendance.  Likewise, going up to the Championship will increase your revenue for the same reasons, but not to as big an extent.  But your player wage demands will probably get bigger too.  If you're looking at cheap players for your squad, have a look for anyone out of contract, then offer them trials.  Loaning players from Premiership clubs is a good way too, as you may not have to pay all their wages if you can negotiate successfully with the club.

 

Ok, that's good to know that I get a bigger cashflow if I move up a league. I've got most of my guys signed to 3 year deals (I don't sign players short term), and if need be, I can always move up a league.

 

Do you mean suck bad in that the players don't get on with them, or that they're crap at coaching?  Six coaches for a lower league side is quite a lot, so you could probably cull the ones you don't want and get away with it.  You may have to pay them compensation though, so make sure you've got some cash first.

 

;; I just found out I've got $30 left so can't fire them now. And I mean sucky coaches in that I only kept them caue they were better in a single category than the 3 I hired (which are all good coaches).

 

Yeah, the coaches are quite a lot, but I'm only paying the three new coaches about 1500 a week, so I think that's not bad.

 

Tactics is a personal thing, but I'm presuming you mean from that two defenders, two midfielders and seven forwards, which is just terrifying!  Tradition would be either 4-4-2 or 3-5-2, although the vogue in European football, and especially English football, at the moment is 4-1-4-1, with four defenders, a defensive midfielder, four attack minded midfielders and a lone forward.

 

Experimenting is the best way to find the perfect balance and if 2-2-7 works for you (and where does the keeper come into that?!) stick with it.  You may find teams that hit you on the break more though.

 

>_< I'm not used to describing tactics. Its basically a 2 DCs, 2MLs, 2 WGs, 3Fs, and a striker. Although that would come up as a 2-4-4 offense, the WGs have run feeds and are on the attack, so that's why its a 2-2-7. Its actually not bad. If I could get my proper guys back from injury its a swell tactic to run. Although, I'm still playing around with it to perfect it.

 

 

You can try loan deals and Bosmans (players without a club or contract).  Hull are a good team to talent raid, if you're in the lower leagues.  If you have Scotland enabled, Hibernian and/or Motherwell are virtual conveyor belts of young players you can get cheaply who are decent.

 

Bosmans? I've done a few of those, in which I got Callum Flanagan (hopefully I got the last name right) who's my top scorer right now (tops in the league too!). So Hull, Hibernian and Motherwell. I'll look into it when I get into next season.

 

If you're only in League One, you'll have to go some to get into the UEFA or European Cup!

 

Cup tourneys are knock-out tournaments, random draws for each round, eliminating it down to eventually just two.  Some may be two-legged affairs, some may be one leg with a replay in the event of a tie, and some may go to penalties and decide on the night, depending on the competition.

 

Except for the Uefa and European Cups, which operate mini-leagues at one stage,  but you don't need to worry about that just now!

Oh, ok. So don't worry myself about them that's good to know.

 

The main one is the FA Cup, oldest cup competition in the world and something the English are proud of (but I'm Scots, so it doesn't bother me as much).  Winning that carries a lot of prestige and entry into the UEFA Cup.

 

Oh, so the FA is better than the other two. Ah, I see. I'll try winning that one then. If I ever get to it.

 

Really, the best things I can suggest Flik are watch as much English soccer as you can, and even local games just to get the feel of formations etc, and experiment.  There's loads of transfer tip websites and stuff to keep an eye out for, which might give you some idea of players to look at, although you should also have scouts who can do that in the game for you.

 

Oh, I've got scouts and stuff, but just wondering if anyone had opinions on players to get cause I've only got 3 scouts and one scouts opposing teams to give me the lowdown. So I like to make sure that I might not miss someone.

 

And I'd suggest ditching CM5 and getting Football Manager (or Worldwide Soccer Manager, or whatever it's called outside the UK) since it's a far better, more intuitive game.

So is FM really that much better than CM5? How much better is it?

[Guest Heppyhack]

Coke got all the league changes made? Geezus, that's kinda weird that one sponsor could change everything. But still, kinda neat how that works. BTW, if you get 1st, do you get the Cup? Or how does that work. As my board is expecting me to get the Cup, yet I'm not sure how I'd get the Cup if there isn't a playoff thing for it.

 

Well, they didn't quite force the Football League to change it, just dangled lots of money in front of them and said "Let's make it all sound a bit more dynamic." Most of the teams beneath the Premiership are skint these days, so it was an offer they couldn't really refuse.

 

If you win the League you get a trophy, likewise winning the playoffs gets you a trophy (a nicer, if less prestigious, one than winning the league). If the board specified a cup, rather than silverware, then they either mean the FA Cup, League Cup (which is the secondary cup competition) or the LDV Vans Trophy (which is a cup competition for lower league sides). If they just say silverware, they want you to win something - anything! - to show for the season.

 

 

;; I just found out I've got $30 left so can't fire them now. And I mean sucky coaches in that I only kept them caue they were better in a single category than the 3 I hired (which are all good coaches).

 

Yeah, the coaches are quite a lot, but I'm only paying the three new coaches about 1500 a week, so I think that's not bad.

 

 

Its a lot for a lower league coach. If you can get shot of them without too much compensation, fire them. Three coaches are good enough, as long as one is a decent goalkeeping coach and one a good all-rounder.

 

 

>_< I'm not used to describing tactics. Its basically a 2 DCs, 2MLs, 2 WGs, 3Fs, and a striker. Although that would come up as a 2-4-4 offense, the WGs have run feeds and are on the attack, so that's why its a 2-2-7. Its actually not bad. If I could get my proper guys back from injury its a swell tactic to run. Although, I'm still playing around with it to perfect it.

 

Interesting formation. Would leave your defence a bit exposed. Have you tried using wide defenders (full backs) and letting them run forward. Or alternatively swapping one of your forwards for a defensive midfielder, and sticking him in front of the back line. I can see how 2-4-4 would work, but I'd be worried about the back of support at the back if your opposition start sticking high balls over your midfield.

 

But, as I said before, if it works for you, and you get results, that's all that matters at the end of the day!

 

Bosmans? I've done a few of those, in which I got Callum Flanagan (hopefully I got the last name right) who's my top scorer right now (tops in the league too!). So Hull, Hibernian and Motherwell. I'll look into it when I get into next season.

 

Bosmans and loans are the best way to get players, especially if you're in the lower leagues and strapped for cash. Its worth sending your scouts in the game to Scandinavia if you can - you can usually turn up some genuine stars for virtually no transfer fee.

 

 

Oh, so the FA is better than the other two. Ah, I see. I'll try winning that one then. If I ever get to it.

 

Every club in the league gets entered into it, but where you are determines at what stage you join the competition. In League One you'll go in at the first round, probably, which would be end of November, beginning of December. The third round is the weekend after New Year, and is where the Premiership clubs enter. Cup games = revenue, especially if you last long enough to draw a Premiership side.

 

Oh, I've got scouts and stuff, but just wondering if anyone had opinions on players to get cause I've only got 3 scouts and one scouts opposing teams to give me the lowdown. So I like to make sure that I might not miss someone.

 

Hmm - at League One level... Danny Griffin at Stockport is a decent buy if you can prise him away. Alan Archibald from Dundee United, Adrian Madaschi and Juan Ramon from Partick, Steve Brooker - probably at Port Vale, but search for him if you can't find him - is a good young striker. Try the Premiership clubs for kids and reserve players - Ishmael Miller at Manchester City is a decent striker, for instance.

 

So is FM really that much better than CM5? How much better is it?

 

Hugely. FM is what Championship Manager used to be - the team which made CM for years split from Eidos, and launched the new game using a refined version of the CM database and user interface, publishing it as FM through Sega. Eidos got another software team to develop a new game from the ground up as CM5. Its ok - still has a good player database, for a start - but it's not as intuitive. Most of the CM fans went to FM out of loyalty and because it came out first, but it's also a far bette, far more intuitive game.

[deancoles 0]

Another good strategy is to sign Players over 30 with good coaching skills, give them a 1 year contract as a Player/Coach and you can use them as backup, you can then send your best Youth/Reserve players out on Loan for experience.

 

Not sure if you've downloaded the patch or not so here's a link to it.

 

CM Patch

CM Demo

CM Website

 

Edit: Put the demo link up as well.

Edited April 8, 2005 by deancoles411

[TheFranchise 0]

It's very late, but..

 

lol@227.

 

Gold.

[TheFranchise 0]

And to simplyfy all of the other games, Football Manager IS a LOT better than CM.

[Lightning Flik 0]

Another good strategy is to sign Players over 30 with good coaching skills, give them a 1 year contract as a Player/Coach and you can use them as backup, you can then send your best Youth/Reserve players out on Loan for experience.

 

Not sure if you've downloaded the patch or not so here's a link to it.

Hm... Didn't think about that player thing. That's interesting. I should've done that. Oh well, I'll do it next year.

 

As for the patch, I think my version is patched. Might have to check with my various sources whom I got it from, but I think it was patched.

 

It's very late, but..

 

lol@227.

 

Gold.

What's so funny about it? Works very well. Well... At least when the stupid D does it flipping job. Which has been happening more and more recently. Almost beat Blackpool in a shootout 5-3. Blackpool had like 30 shots on net and I had like 25. But my guys managed to keep it tight. Surprisingly.

 

And to simplyfy all of the other games, Football Manager IS a LOT better than CM.

My various sources have once again provided me with this game, so I'll see how it is. Hopefully its good.

[TheFranchise 0]

And to simplyfy all of the other games, Football Manager IS a LOT better than CM.

My various sources have once again provided me with this game, so I'll see how it is. Hopefully its good.

 

What do you think?

 

It's very late, but..

 

lol@227.

 

Gold.

What's so funny about it?

 

If you've got two defenders, and two midfielders, odds are you're not going to have too many people defending and you'll let in a lot of goals.

[Lightning Flik 0]

Well, they didn't quite force the Football League to change it, just dangled lots of money in front of them and said "Let's make it all sound a bit more dynamic."  Most of the teams beneath the Premiership are skint these days, so it was an offer they couldn't really refuse.

 

Oh.. Ok that makes more sense now. Kinda weird a sponsor came up with the idea.

 

If you win the League you get a trophy, likewise winning the playoffs gets you a trophy (a nicer, if less prestigious, one than winning the league).  If the board specified a cup, rather than silverware, then they either mean the FA Cup, League Cup (which is the secondary cup competition) or the LDV Vans Trophy (which is a cup competition for lower league sides).  If they just say silverware, they want you to win something - anything! - to show for the season.

 

Ah, ok. That makes more sense now. Well, they told me to win the league trophy and aren't quite impressed with me being 5th (I lost 7 matches, stupid injuries), but I'm at least still in the hunt.

 

 

Its a lot for a lower league coach.  If you can get shot of them without too much compensation, fire them.  Three coaches are good enough, as long as one is a decent goalkeeping coach and one a good all-rounder.

 

Oh all three are good all-rounders, the three that aren't are specialized. But I meant I payed the 3 new coaches 500 a week each coach. Don't know why I added the 1 before it.

 

Interesting formation.  Would leave your defence a bit exposed.  Have you tried using wide defenders (full backs) and letting them run forward.  Or alternatively swapping one of your forwards for a defensive midfielder, and sticking him in front of the back line.  I can see how 2-4-4 would work, but I'd be worried about the back of support at the back if your opposition start sticking high balls over your midfield.

 

But, as I said before, if it works for you, and you get results, that's all that matters at the end of the day!

 

Well, it has a few flaws that get exposed lately, and you actually described it pretty much. I'll give what you say a shot and see how that works.

 

Bosmans and loans are the best way to get players, especially if you're in the lower leagues and strapped for cash.  Its worth sending your scouts in the game to Scandinavia if you can - you can usually turn up some genuine stars for virtually no transfer fee.

 

Sending scouts to Scandinavia? Alrighty, I'll give it a look. Hopefully I can find some more cheap talent. Found a Canadian I wanted to sign and I've tried like 5 times, but can't get a freaking work permit. Hopefully I don't get the same problem with people in Scandinavia.

 

Every club in the league gets entered into it, but where you are determines at what stage you join the competition.  In League One you'll go in at the first round, probably, which would be end of November, beginning of December.  The third round is the weekend after New Year, and is where the Premiership clubs enter.  Cup games = revenue, especially if you last long enough to draw a Premiership side.

 

Hm... I think I managed to make it to a third round in one of them, if I'm not mistaken. I'll have to wait for my next game.

 

Hmm - at League One level... Danny Griffin at Stockport is a decent buy if you can prise him away.  Alan Archibald from Dundee United, Adrian Madaschi and Juan Ramon from Partick, Steve Brooker - probably at Port Vale, but search for him if you can't find him - is a good young striker.  Try the Premiership clubs for kids and reserve players - Ishmael Miller at Manchester City is a decent striker, for instance.

 

Ah, ok. Thanks for the list, I'll look into them right away. Although on my striker side, I've got like 3 or 4 of them on my main team, so I'll lay off on strikers.

 

Hugely.  FM is what Championship Manager used to be - the team which made CM for years split from Eidos, and launched the new game using a refined version of the CM database and user interface, publishing it as FM through Sega.  Eidos got another software team to develop a new game from the ground up as CM5.  Its ok - still has a good player database, for a start - but it's not as intuitive.  Most of the CM fans went to FM out of loyalty and because it came out first, but it's also a far bette, far more intuitive game.

 

>_< I can't run the game. It dies on my machine... Wah... I can't compare it.

 

If you've got two defenders, and two midfielders, odds are you're not going to have too many people defending and you'll let in a lot of goals.

About 26-28... In about 20 games. But that's usually due to my goalie being a flipping idiot lately. ...that game against Blackpool in which I lost 5-3 didn't help much either.

 

That and its more of a 2-4-4. I just forget the wideouts move up into the rush, so I think its a 2-2-7. Whatever the numbers are. >_< I forget.

[TheFranchise 0]

For Flik, who I was talking to via PM, i'll post my current formation, since it should wipe his 2-2-6.

 

I've also asked him to post his, to see if he can defend it.

 

Ha.

 

[rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0]

RE Work Permits, you only need them if the player is from outside the European Union. You'll be fine with any Scandinavians.

[TheFranchise 0]

In football manager, why is Ronaldo so useless?

[rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0]

Cristiano or regular?

[TheFranchise 0]

Sorry.

 

The Brazlian. I spent some dough on him from Real, and although he's only 30 at this time, he shouldn't be as bad as he is.

 

Christiano is great on this game.

[TheFranchise 0]

lol@ 'regular ronaldo'

[Guest Lawlerm]

For Flik, who I was talking to via PM, i'll post my current formation, since it should wipe his 2-2-6.

 

I've also asked him to post his, to see if he can defend it.

 

Ha.

To be fair it does make the game much easier when you just go in and change the database!

 

Even getting Derby into the Premiership doesn't get you a squad like that 3 seasons in.

[TheFranchise 0]

For Flik, who I was talking to via PM, i'll post my current formation, since it should wipe his 2-2-6.

 

I've also asked him to post his, to see if he can defend it.

 

Ha.

To be fair it does make the game much easier when you just go in and change the database!

 

Even getting Derby into the Premiership doesn't get you a squad like that 3 seasons in.

I didn't deny I changed anything, I ticked the Sugar Daddy option.

 

I play a fantasy game every now and again, it's all well and, er, fun, battling relegation every year, sometimes you want to do something else

[Lightning Flik 0]

For Flik, who I was talking to via PM, i'll post my current formation, since it should wipe his 2-2-6.

The formation of 2-2-6:

 

 

My current formation that is a 2-4-4

 

I like your formation btw, nice and stylish. Doubt Luton could defend against that team.

 

RE Work Permits, you only need them if the player is from outside the European Union. You'll be fine with any Scandinavians.

Ah ok... v_v But I want that really cheap Canadian... He's very freaking good too.

Edited April 10, 2005 by Lightning Flik

[TheFranchise 0]

I'd favour the bottom pictre, but for what it's worth, i'd have the two defenders coming inside, using the arrows, towards each other. Should save you about a goal a game.

[Lightning Flik 0]

I'd favour the bottom pictre, but for what it's worth, i'd have the two defenders coming inside, using the arrows, towards each other. Should save you about a goal a game.

How do I get the arrows to move inwards? I'd love to do that cause that would be great.

[TheFranchise 0]

Well, in the old FM series, you could just use right click to drag it, and left click to move the player.

 

So try right clicking the player and dragging towards the centre.

[Lightning Flik 0]

Oh, ok, I'll see if that works.

[TheFranchise 0]

Should do, I cant see why they'd change THAT little bit, its been the same in every game previous.

[TheFranchise 0]

Any proof that England has the best sides in the world? Try THIS!

 

[deancoles 0]

How many players are left from your 04/05 team?

[TheFranchise 0]

pffffft... i lost 6 or 7 players, because they wouldn't renew as I never played them. Ironically, Rooney joined Arsenal and scored the winner in the Champs League after the above game: against me.

 

Was a bitter sweet pill to swallow, but you know?

 

All the strikers i've got, Adriano, Cavanaghi, Raul etc, who has been my top scorer twice in a row?

 

...Djibrel Cisse.

[deancoles 0]

All the strikers i've got, Adriano, Cavanaghi, Raul etc, who has been my top scorer twice in a row?

 

...Djibrel Cisse.

I usually get that when I have 4+ top strikers, with rotation one of them usually only plays cup games giving him the chance to cash in on lower league defences while the others get a rest.