Unanswered WWF/E Questions

[The Metal Maniac 0]

What is the actual physical effect of the Stone Cold Stunner that would put you down for a long time?

 

Keep in mind that when Austin did the move, his opponent usually had their throat/chin on his shoulder.

 

The impact of hitting their throat/chin right on his shoulder is what puts them out. Getting hit there is not very pleasent.

 

Also...how in the hell is a sock gonna protect you from teeth? It's a SOCK. I once had someone bite me in the arm and draw blood while I was wearing a coat; and they weren't even trying to draw blood.

[Guest JMA]

Was it ever explained in storyline reasons why Vince pretended to just be an announcer prior to the Attitude era?

[Jericholic82 0]

socko wasnt meant to protect from teeth. neither was the leather cover he originally used. When he used leather, that was the original mankind character and he was supposed to have disfigured his own fingers with a hammer, thus the cover to hide the supposed "disfigured fingers" socko got so over after the mcmhaon hospital visit he started putting that on his hand to do the claw, just for furn I suppose (thought the first timehe used it, on mark henry in the IC title tourney on RAW, he had taken the sock off his foot during the match EWWWWWW)

[Jericholic82 0]

Was it ever explained in storyline reasons why Vince pretended to just be an announcer prior to the Attitude era?

I don't think so. If it was, obivously it wasn't done well cuz I don't remember.

[The Metal Maniac 0]

socko wasnt meant to protect from teeth

 

I know.

 

But someone else made a comment earlier about how it would help protect against teeth.

 

No dice.

[Guest Redhawk]

What is the actual physical effect of the Stone Cold Stunner that would put you down for a long time?

 

Keep in mind that when Austin did the move, his opponent usually had their throat/chin on his shoulder.

 

The impact of hitting their throat/chin right on his shoulder is what puts them out. Getting hit there is not very pleasent.

 

Also...how in the hell is a sock gonna protect you from teeth? It's a SOCK. I once had someone bite me in the arm and draw blood while I was wearing a coat; and they weren't even trying to draw blood.

It seemed to me that they always sold it as someting that hurts your neck. Like Austin would do a stunner on a guy and later on in the show you'd see him rubbing his neck. And I remember on one of the old WWF video games on N64, the Stunner would have a bone-breaking sound effect along with it.

[Guest Nater]

What is up with the constant fuzzy cam work on smackdown? It happens now and then on Raw but one time it went almost a minute on SD!

 

Yes, I absolutely love how wrestlers scheme, plan or reveal secrets in front of the camera.

 

How does anybody manage to kick out of a top rope splash manuver, much less a top of the cage manuver? It really kills the credibility of the move and puts over the kicker as a god.

[Jericholic82 0]

What is up with the constant fuzzy cam work on smackdown? It happens now and then on Raw but one time it went almost a minute on SD!

 

Yes, I absolutely love how wrestlers scheme, plan or reveal secrets in front of the camera.

 

How does anybody manage to kick out of a top rope splash manuver, much less a top of the cage manuver? It really kills the credibility of the move and puts over the kicker as a god.

uh, upn sucks?

[Jericholic82 0]

socko wasnt meant to protect from teeth

 

I know.

 

But someone else made a comment earlier about how it would help protect against teeth.

 

No dice.

obviously unless of course the sock was made of lead.

[Guest theanswer1824]

i got a good one:

 

what was the point of eric bischoff and stephanie KISSING when they were both GM's? I thought that shit was weird. can someone break this down for me?

[TheFranchise 0]

As far as I know, or would be bothered to guess, ...I got nothing.

[Promoter 0]

I guess Vince had some twisted fantasy of seeing his former arch rival kiss his daughter. I dunno!

 

I think Austin or Bret outed Vince the night after Royal Rumble '97 as the real boss. If I remember correctly, Austin called Gorilla Monsoon a pencil pusher that is only good for stuffing bananas down his throat. I could be wrong, but I remember the mic work going along those lines. Bret had "quit" earlier in the show because Vince did not live up to his promise of equal opportunity. Austin would later not do what Vince wanted him to do in an interview around this time in 1997 when he got a title shot against Taker(as a sidenote, that episode of raw was amazing with Pillman's return). In other words, NO. Vince never came out and gave a real explanation why he never admitted to not being the real boss.

 

When Bret also came back for Survivor Series he did a promo where the cameras were focusing a hell of a lot on Vince. Russo in the wwe mag stated that Vince did not know if Bret was staying or going and just assumed Bret would not screw him with trashing the company and jumping. Now, Russo the king of worked shoots could have been lying, but if he wasn't it really puts a hole in Vince's fear exactly a year later about Bret taking a dump on the wwf title by going to nitro.

[Guest Redhawk]

Why do on-screen authority figures always want to fire wrestlers who make a ton of money for them? (Vince/Austin, HHH & Steph/Mankind, Vince/Rock, etc.)

 

Did they ever explain how Mae Young got that rubber hand up there?

 

Did they ever give a storyline reason for why Mark Henry and Mae Young broke up?

 

Did they give a storyline reason for why they dropped the Beaver Cleavage character? Also, did they ever acknowledge afterwards that Mosh was Beaver?

 

Remember how during the Corporate Ministry/abducting Stephanie story, Vince gave that interview talking about how the Undertaker was a created character but 'Taker had actually started believing it? So, is that still the case? Or did Taker ever come out and say he now knows it was fake?

 

Did Vince do that whole elaborate "Greater Power" thing just to cost Steve Austin a championship belt? That seems pretty stupid now, doesn't it?

[EdwardKnoxII 0]

Why do on-screen authority figures always want to fire wrestlers who make a ton of money for them? (Vince/Austin, HHH & Steph/Mankind, Vince/Rock, etc.)

The night on RAW were Vince fired Dude Love he admitted that the reason he doesn't fire Austin is because Austin makes him lots of money.

[Guest Fook]

Did they give a storyline reason for why they dropped the Beaver Cleavage character? Also, did they ever acknowledge afterwards that Mosh was Beaver?

 

They had Beaver come out one week, "break character", and claim that he didn't want to be Beaver Cleavage, he just wanted to be himself and became Chaz. Beaver was never mentioned again.

[Jericholic82 0]

Did they give a storyline reason for why they dropped the Beaver Cleavage character? Also, did they ever acknowledge afterwards that Mosh was Beaver?

 

They had Beaver come out one week, "break character", and claim that he didn't want to be Beaver Cleavage, he just wanted to be himself and became Chaz. Beaver was never mentioned again.

Actually they cut to a backstage interview that was to feauture Beaver, and he started to talk and said "I cant do this" and walked off.

 

I think Beav lasted all of one Raw ring appearance, before theis promo.

[zyn081 0]

Ive got some:

 

(1) Why doesnt ever wrestler go for their finisher from the bell if its that deadly?

 

(2) Why do the announcers act dumb and saying why did X do that when its obvious a few moments earlier what Xhad in mind?

 

(3) Why does the ref miss parts of a match? (especially every tag match)

 

(4) Why does a face run into the ring, get in a few punches, tosses the heel out of the ring and doesnt chase after the heel but just look all mean and nasty whilst resting on the ring ropes?

[The Metal Maniac 0]

Did they ever explain how Mae Young got that rubber hand up there?

 

Apparantly, the joke is that they used to make and sell rubber hands as pleasure devices for women - like a vibrator, only a rubber hand. SO Mae Young lost one up there one day.

 

Yeah. It's still not funny.

[Guest Fook]

(1) Why doesnt ever wrestler go for their finisher from the bell if its that deadly?

Because their opponent is still fresh and will therefore easily be able to counter it. When they've been beat up for ten or so minutes, they'll be too dazed to escape it.

[Carnival 0]

Ive got some:

 

(1) Why doesnt ever wrestler go for their finisher from the bell if its that deadly?

 

(2) Why do the announcers act dumb and saying why did X do that when its obvious a few moments earlier what Xhad in mind?

 

(3) Why does the ref miss parts of a match? (especially every tag match)

 

(4) Why does a face run into the ring, get in a few punches, tosses the heel out of the ring and doesnt chase after the heel but just look all mean and nasty whilst resting on the ring ropes?

Cuz they get paid to do so.

 

wrestling is not real.

[claydude14 0]

Ive got some:

 

(1) Why doesnt ever wrestler go for their finisher from the bell if its that deadly?

 

(2) Why do the announcers act dumb and saying why did X do that when its obvious a few moments earlier what Xhad in mind?

 

(3) Why does the ref miss parts of a match? (especially every tag match)

 

(4) Why does a face run into the ring, get in a few punches, tosses the heel out of the ring and doesnt chase after the heel but just look all mean and nasty whilst resting on the ring ropes?

Cuz they get paid to do so.

 

wrestling is not real.

No shit, that's not what this threads about.

[Carnival 0]

Ive got some:

 

(1) Why doesnt ever wrestler go for their finisher from the bell if its that deadly?

 

(2) Why do the announcers act dumb and saying why did X do that when its obvious a few moments earlier what Xhad in mind?

 

(3) Why does the ref miss parts of a match? (especially every tag match)

 

(4) Why does a face run into the ring, get in a few punches, tosses the heel out of the ring and doesnt chase after the heel but just look all mean and nasty whilst resting on the ring ropes?

Cuz they get paid to do so.

 

wrestling is not real.

No shit, that's not what this threads about.

Like those aren't the most obvious questions that apply to any wrestling federation.

 

Its like asking. "Why do babyfaces tend to mention the town they are in when they are on the mic?"

 

the thread is about WWE angles and stories, not the general way wrestling companies run shows.

[zyn081 0]

Ive got some:

 

(1) Why doesnt ever wrestler go for their finisher from the bell if its that deadly?

 

(2) Why do the announcers act dumb and saying why did X do that when its obvious a few moments earlier what Xhad in mind?

 

(3) Why does the ref miss parts of a match? (especially every tag match)

 

(4) Why does a face run into the ring, get in a few punches, tosses the heel out of the ring and doesnt chase after the heel but just look all mean and nasty whilst resting on the ring ropes?

Cuz they get paid to do so.

 

wrestling is not real.

No shit, that's not what this threads about.

Like those aren't the most obvious questions that apply to any wrestling federation.

 

Its like asking. "Why do babyfaces tend to mention the town they are in when they are on the mic?"

 

the thread is about WWE angles and stories, not the general way wrestling companies run shows.

Yes but still. I think such points expose the business. And I basically just watch WWE except for slivers of TNA, ROH and CZW here and there.

 

And in reply to the 10 minutes and worn out thing. Why does a tomebstone and not a last ride or a chokeslam finish it?

 

And why can you only kick out of a finisher at a PPV? and trade finishers for that matter?

[Guest Redhawk]

And why can you only kick out of a finisher at a PPV? and trade finishers for that matter?

 

I think the idea is that wrestlers are more jacked up for a PPV, so they're capable of reaching down and finding more within themselves (to kick out of a finisher) or are willing to try new things (using another guy's finisher). It's like in sports, how the playoffs are more intense than the regular season.

[Toxxic 0]

(1) Why doesnt ever wrestler go for their finisher from the bell if its that deadly?

You could theoretically call 'ego' on that one. Imagine if Stone Cold hit the Stunner at the bell and covered, but only got one and a half. The opponent would have kicked out of the Stunner before two - it didn't matter that was the only move Austin had landed, he'd have still kicked out before two.

 

You could kayfabe an explanation involving the wrestler not wanting his best move to look like shit, so he saves it until the time when he thinks it's going to do the job. Besides, some finishers are a little more complicated (you wouldn't believably keep a guy down long enough to go up and hit a Shooting Star Press until they'd been beaten up a bit).

[Guest Redhawk]

A few things I've wondered about...

 

1) Did anything ever happen to Lex Luger (legally speaking) after Elizabeth's death?

 

2) What happened with the Hart family lawsuit against WWE?

 

3) Was Shawn Stasiak really fired from the WWF for taping other wrestler's conversations?

 

4) How come no one else from the Ministry kept their same character for as long as Viscera? Hell, the Undertaker even underwent a few overhauls since then.

 

5) Why exactly did Ken Shamrock leave the WWF?

 

6) Was Zach Gowen fired or did he quit? Why?

 

7) Was Test really a Motley Crue bodyguard or was that just a storyline thing?

 

8) Why was Jamal of 3-Minute Warning fired but not Rosey?

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

A few things I've wondered about...

 

1) Did anything ever happen to Lex Luger (legally speaking) after Elizabeth's death?

 

2) What happened with the Hart family lawsuit against WWE?

 

3) Was Shawn Stasiak really fired from the WWF for taping other wrestler's conversations?

 

4) How come no one else from the Ministry kept their same character for as long as Viscera? Hell, the Undertaker even underwent a few overhauls since then.

 

5) Why exactly did Ken Shamrock leave the WWF?

 

6) Was Zach Gowen fired or did he quit? Why?

 

7) Was Test really a Motley Crue bodyguard or was that just a storyline thing?

 

8) Why was Jamal of 3-Minute Warning fired but not Rosey?

1) Did anything ever happen to Lex Luger (legally speaking) after Elizabeth's death?

 

He was charged in relation to the drugs found at his house. I don't remember off hand what came of them.

 

3) Was Shawn Stasiak really fired from the WWF for taping other wrestler's conversations?

 

Yes.

 

5) Why exactly did Ken Shamrock leave the WWF?

 

He wanted to give MMA one last try before he got too old.

 

6) Was Zach Gowen fired or did he quit? Why?

 

He was released. Zach had a tremendous ego and rubbed just about everyone the wrong way, and that, combined with their being nothing else they could do with him led them to let him go.

 

8) Why was Jamal of 3-Minute Warning fired but not Rosey?

 

He threatened to beat up a cop and tried to carry said threat out.