Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted July 10, 2002 I'd Say 5, 2, and 3. 5 gets the push over 2 because, while 2 was really consistant in their **** eps. 5 had Buffys finale and the eps. where her mom died which rank among my favourite eps on television. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ripper Report post Posted July 10, 2002 True, but the Dracula episode was the ONLY Buffy episode I didn't like...EVER. Did you see the Burget Meat Palace and the show when Riley came back from this year...The only 2 shows I didn't like EVER!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted July 10, 2002 2,3,4...5 comes closely behind 4. I'm the only one that really seemed to like 4 on the board. Dawn still bugs me with her constant "no body loves me, bitch bitch bitch piss moan bitch bitch whine." Tara was by far the more interesting character, and it took me a couple of seasons to warm up to her...then they whack her, go figure. Does anyone know about Angel DVDs or VHS tapes? on my Buffy season 2 DVD there's a preview for Angel season 1 on VHS, but I can't find it in stores anywhere (I don't think it was an overseas preview) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ripper Report post Posted July 10, 2002 I don't know, but they need to hurry up with the Angel sets. I liked season 4...I actually still like it better than season 1. Its just that once the Initiative became the main focus, it got kinda dumb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cavi Report post Posted July 10, 2002 I agree Ripper. I liked Season Four, but the Initiative stuff just didn't go over with me. I didn't care for Adam much. I watched "Wild At Heart" this past weekend though. That episode always gets to me. I love that ending. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ripper Report post Posted July 17, 2002 Ok...first there was the rumor that the guy that played the Master was contacted. Then there was this open set thing the other day and Adam Busch and Claire Kramer where both there...hmm.. Could we see a all villian comeback through flashback episode?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GenerationNever Report post Posted July 17, 2002 True, but the Dracula episode was the ONLY Buffy episode I didn't like...EVER. Did you see the Burget Meat Palace and the show when Riley came back from this year...The only 2 shows I didn't like EVER!!! I've seen EVERY Buffy episode. I consider the Dracula episode WORSE than Double Meat Palace and Riley Finn Returns. I'd say it was the worst season premier ever. I'm getting use to Dawn, but I wish she didn't try so hard to act "grown up." Also, since the Priests made her out of Buffy, wouldn't that make her more of a daughter than a sister to Buffy? After all, with Joyce and Tara dead, Buffy is her only parental role-model. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted July 17, 2002 Ripper ol boy you just won't let your thread die will you...well...this will be post #199, might as well get it past 200. Xander was funny enough to keep Draclua from being the worst every...the Double Meat Palace one was just SO slow and boring...I'll go ahead and say worst episode ever Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ripper Report post Posted July 17, 2002 Its the only thing I have created...it will be my legacy at the smarks board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GenerationNever Report post Posted July 18, 2002 Okay, so we're clear, the only bad Buffy episodes EVER were Dracula, Double Meat Palace, and Riley's Return. Joss REALLY needs to replace Marti and stop letting her write her boyfriend troubles on Spike/Buffy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted July 18, 2002 I didn't like "Teacher's Pet"...but that's so early in the show's history where I can forgive them. A lot of the early season 6 stuff was just so-so though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GenerationNever Report post Posted July 18, 2002 I do think Willow having the ability to destroy the entire world was pretty messed up. It would have been better if she just threatened to destroy the town. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vyce Report post Posted July 18, 2002 I will fight with you people to the bitter end about the musical episoded. WORST. EPISODE. EVER. Please see the light. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GenerationNever Report post Posted July 18, 2002 I will fight with you people to the bitter end about the musical episoded. WORST. EPISODE. EVER. Please see the light. Eh, I didn't see what was THAT great about it. But, then again, I'm an old school Buffy fan who has watched from the very beginning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cavi Report post Posted July 18, 2002 I will agree with what seems to be the majority of Buffy fans out there on the net, in that I'm a big mark for the musical. I loved the actual score itself (must be said again, Chris Beck is the man), the lyrics, the direction. Pretty much everything about it. Anyway, I will say that I really didn't care for Riley's Return and Double Meat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kinetic Report post Posted July 18, 2002 I'm sort of hesitant about watching the first run episodes now, since I'm totally out of the loop on everything post-season 3. My work schedule doesn't permit catching up via FX and UPN reruns, either. Season 2 blew my mind, though. I watched all 22 episodes over the course of three days earlier this week and have had my thought process forever altered for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted July 18, 2002 The Musical Episode rules. the Meat Palace episode is the worst ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GenerationNever Report post Posted July 18, 2002 The Musical Episode rules. the Meat Palace episode is the worst ever. IMO, Dracula was worse because it was the season premier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted July 18, 2002 I wasn't nearly as bored during the Dracula episode. Good Lord that Meat palace episode was terrible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GenerationNever Report post Posted July 19, 2002 There's a differance between boring and idiotic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted July 19, 2002 yeah...idiotic I can watch and laugh at. boring I turn off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted July 19, 2002 C'mon, it's fuckin Dracula. Either you go big or you don't go at all (preferably you don't go at all..it's fuckin Dracula). But they made it into an episode where the main purpose was splitting up Buffy and Riley. "You kissed Dracula" just makes me laugh and groan and laugh again. The only *good* thing aboot the show was Xander. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted July 19, 2002 Although everyone hates the episode, I like the fact that they made Dracula out to be a pussy more or less...I like that the legend didn't equal the vampire. And Xander was great in that one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GenerationNever Report post Posted July 19, 2002 Although everyone hates the episode, I like the fact that they made Dracula out to be a pussy more or less...I like that the legend didn't equal the vampire. And Xander was great in that one. "Buffy" is usually an intelligent show, and the "Dracula" episode was very stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vyce Report post Posted July 19, 2002 The Musical Episode rules. the Meat Palace episode is the worst ever. Oh this hurts. I actually kind of respect your opinion. So WHY CAN'T YOU UNDERSTAND???? Musical episode was not good. Dracula was better by comparison. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ripper Report post Posted July 19, 2002 Of course, I enjoy laughing at Giles in the pit with the she vamps in the Dracula Episode...at least that show made me laugh. The Double Meat Palace one...nothing. And it didn't make sense. Buffy didn't want to work at the Majic Shop because she didn't want to do Customer Service....so she gets a job at a fast food joint. OOoooookayyyyy. And yes, Xander ruled all in the Dracula episode...see? Redeeming qualities puts it ahead of DM Palace. And the what about the musical made it suck to you. Maybe I can see what you are talking about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted July 19, 2002 Ok, the Fast Food eps and the Dracula eps both sucked a fair amount of ass, each in their own way. But how can you say that the Musical Episode sucked? 1)It actually furthered the storyline (not just of the respective show, but the entire series..ie: Buffy in heaven..Giles saying Buffy is too dependant on him) 2)GOOD SINGING! I had goosebumps when they sung 'walk through the fire'. Ok, that's it really...But what more do you need? The only thing I didn't like was the fuckin Shark.. WTF was that all aboot? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vyce Report post Posted July 19, 2002 But how can you say that the Musical Episode sucked? 1)It actually furthered the storyline (not just of the respective show, but the entire series..ie: Buffy in heaven..Giles saying Buffy is too dependant on him) 2)GOOD SINGING! I had goosebumps when they sung 'walk through the fire'. Ok, that's it really...But what more do you need? The only thing I didn't like was the fuckin Shark.. WTF was that all aboot? To me, musicals are scraping the bottom of the barrel. Anyone remember "Cop Rock"? 1) It may have furthered the storyline, but I personally thought that a good 2/3rds (maybe 3/4ths) of the storyline for this season was pretty bad. While many Buffy fans were going on and on and on and on about how "funny" the Nerds of Doom were, I was retching in the corner. The Nerds were the poorest excuse for main villains that the show has ever devised. I didn't care about Tara & Willow's relationship. Buffy & Spike hooking up was fun until it got all weepy and they ran it into the ground. Dawn's just sort of there. Bottom line, I thought the season was VERY weak this year, so I'm not one to appreciate this particular episode even if it did further the story. 2) I didn't dig the music. Sorry. Plus there's something offensive to me about actors who sing. Or singers who act. It just kind of depressed me that of all the great stuff Whedon COULD have done this season to make it as kick-ass as seasons past....instead he put his energy into a MUSICAL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GenerationNever Report post Posted July 19, 2002 I didn't like Willow having the power to "destroy the world." S'yeah right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cavi Report post Posted July 19, 2002 Joss had been wanting to do the musical for years, and I think he did a hell of a job, what with writing all the songs and everything. It wasn't some stupid little rinky dink musical episode like you would see on, say, That 70s Show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
