MrRant 0 Report post Posted May 10, 2005 Here's an opinion piece from the New York Post, discussing the Cato Institute's new study on government spending during the Bush administration. http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/43632.htm Here's a link to the study itself. http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa543.pdf Bush is the biggest spender since LBJ. Even if you discount military and homeland security spending. And, that doesn't even include the new Medicare entitlement that hasn't really started costing any money until fiscal 2006. The Post column says that Republicans are going to suffer for the spending explosion in the next few elections. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted May 10, 2005 Rant makes non-joke posts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobobrazil1984 0 Report post Posted May 10, 2005 well its a post about politics, so i'd say it is a joke post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted May 10, 2005 [MikeSC]Well, look at his source, it's OBVIOUSLY a joke.[/MikeSC] As Rove told a conference of conservative activists in February, he believes the GOP has in the past been too "reactionary." Republicans have to be for things, not against them. They have to have "visionary goals." This, Rove said, means "reforming" the tax code, health care, pension plans, the legal system, public education and worker training; "building" an Ownership Society of homes and businesses; "preparing" Americans for meeting "the challenges of a free society; "building" a culture of life; "supporting" religious charities, and "fostering" a culture of "service and citizenship." If this isn't activist government — that thing conservatives used to be against — it's hard to say what would be. I think that part of the article sums up my feelings on the matter quite well. Reactionary?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted May 10, 2005 "Reactionary" meaning that for too long the Republicans were the "weren't things sure swell back in the 1920s and 1950s, can we please turn back the clock ASAP" party. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted May 10, 2005 You all mean that because the Republicans control the Government, they're spending more money? Unthinkable! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted May 10, 2005 "Reactionary" meaning that for too long the Republicans were the "weren't things sure swell back in the 1920s and 1950s, can we please turn back the clock ASAP" party. Like they still aren't? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted May 11, 2005 "Reactionary" meaning that for too long the Republicans were the "weren't things sure swell back in the 1920s and 1950s, can we please turn back the clock ASAP" party. Like they still aren't? Bush does seem to be taking them away from their small government fixation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted May 11, 2005 I actually don't mind true conservatives who want minimal government intrusion and fiscal responsibility. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted May 12, 2005 You mean libertarians? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted May 12, 2005 He said conservatives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Joseph 0 Report post Posted May 12, 2005 He meant libertarians. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Wildbomb 4:20 Report post Posted May 12, 2005 In simple terms: Libertarian=socially liberal, economically conservative. The minimal governmental intrusion on personal life is considered a liberal view because it would allow for gay marriage, etc. --Ryan ...ummmm...yeah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted May 12, 2005 True conservatives are people who want things to stay the same. I'd argue that most Republicans aren't conservatives, but reactionaries. Libertarians think individuals should be allowed complete freedom of action as long as they do not infringe on the freedom of others. Although I'm not clear on the philosophical justification, libertarians are generally against the government accumulating huge debts. That's pretty close to what Kotz was advocating. Its a pretty attractive philosophy, but my general disagreement with it is that it allows too much economic injustice to occur. Liberalism (in the current sense of the word) is a philospohy much more fitting with my personal values, although it gets a bad rep because too many liberal leaders think you can solve problems by throwing money at them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted May 13, 2005 Liberalism (in the current sense of the word) is a philospohy much more fitting with my personal values, although it gets a bad rep because too many liberal leaders think you can solve problems by throwing money at them. Right, and what political leader doesn't do that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted May 13, 2005 Liberalism (in the current sense of the word) is a philospohy much more fitting with my personal values, although it gets a bad rep because too many liberal leaders think you can solve problems by throwing money at them. Right, and what political leader doesn't do that? Yes, runaway spending is a bipartisan problem. Sometimes increasing government spending IS needed, but its gotten out of hand since "We're going to increase the budget for it" became the automatic answer to every question asked (as in any presidential debate since 1984). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites