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[Magus 0]

So.... In a wrestling promotion that Jeff Jarrett owns and books, no one other than Jeff Jarrett has been properly built up (for whatever reason) to be a credible main eventer.

 

Funny how that worked out, huh?

[Guest Desperate Housewife]

Who reads the Torch? SMARKS!

 

If you want to draw any fans besides Smarks, you have to have someone that is known on top of the company. Like it or not, Jarrett was TNA's biggest name, and argueably still is. (DDP, Nash are others)

 

Who goes to the show - MARKS - and they hate Jarrett, and not in the goodway - they downright hate the guy.

 

I mean, Jesus, if you went by what the crowd wanted on Sunday - Lance Hoyt should be champion.

 

Of course TNA has built up nobody to challange Styles...cuz Dusty is an idiot and so are the rest of the booking committee. Thats what happens when you think you gotta rush a title change. If they would have held off for Brown, they would have had time to build up other guys, but now they have no direction.

 

Stop blaming Dusty when Jarrett is in control of the booking

 

 

And people say that Jarrett wanting to drop it to Brown was Jarrett's excuse to hold on to the title for another month or two

 

And then he'd say Brown wasn't ready, and "wait a month" o drop it someone, and on, and on,

 

 

But then again so is most of the anti-jarrett babble.

 

It's not anti- Jarrett babble when it's the truth

 

 

Next thing you know it's gonna be Jarrett's fault that Apollo can't get over.

 

 

It is.

 

 

 

So.... In a wrestling promotion that Jeff Jarrett owns and books, no one other than Jeff Jarrett has been properly built up (for whatever reason) to be a credible main eventer.

 

Funny how that worked out, huh?

 

Shocking

[Carnival 0]

Who goes to the show - MARKS - and they hate Jarrett, and not in the goodway - they downright hate the guy.

 

I mean, Jesus, if you went by what the crowd wanted on Sunday - Lance Hoyt should be champion.

 

Ok....first line...listen to the crowd. Second line..don't listen to the crowd.

 

Way to contradict yourself.

 

Stop blaming Dusty when Jarrett is in control of the booking

 

Again, get your facts right.

 

Dusty booked this title switch! He quit but they stayed with HIS plan. If jarrett was in control, he would have held off for Monty.

 

And then he'd say Brown wasn't ready, and "wait a month" o drop it someone, and on, and on,

 

REACH!!!! And what a coincidence, your name is "desperate" housewife.

 

It's not anti- Jarrett babble when it's the truth

 

Everything you've typed is babble. You can post your pictures and be funny, but when it comes to having an understand of what is going on with TNA, your just as lost as their booking committee.

 

So.... In a wrestling promotion that Jeff Jarrett owns and books, no one other than Jeff Jarrett has been properly built up (for whatever reason) to be a credible main eventer.

 

Funny how that worked out, huh?

 

Styles, Abyss, Brown, Nash, DDP, Killings.

 

If you wanna get technical. The Jarrett's own TNA...but the money comes from Panda. So they have to please Panda or the plug gets pulled. So really Panda are the real owners. And every wrestling news site on the web has already said. JARRETT IS NOT BOOKING!

[Magus 0]

I never said JJ was the booker, although he was booking for about a year with his buddy Dutch (when things were at their lowest). Even if he's not the booker, its naive to say that he doesn't have creative control. Triple H isn't a booker for RAW, after all.

 

And just for shits and giggles:

-DDP and Nash both recieved title shots with no build up and then jobbed to Jarrett to make him look good. Of course they were OVER, but their purpose was to make Jarrett look big league. That purpose is over, and now Nash is gone and TNA doesn't know what to do with Page. They certainly aren't putting him in the title picture.

-Styles has been neutered so many times by Jarrett it just isn't funny. JJ treats Styles like he isn't in his league, has never lost to him clean, and always gets his heat back. Even though he's been a champion three times, Styles has always just kept the belt warm for Jarrett. The booking shows that.

-Killings as a credible main eventer? He lost the title to Jarrett and then got shafted with 3LK. That isn't a main event treatment push, so don't make me laugh.

-Abyss? We've all been talking about how much Abyss has been getting screwed. Everytime he gets a number one contender's spot, he gets shafted. Next.

-Monty? He's already on his way. The first mistake was not giving him the title when he first challenged for it. He was booked as a dominant monster, yet he couldn't beat Jeff Fucking Jarrett? That's not how Goldberg was built. The heel turn was the second mistake, as it makes no sense and TNA hasn't bothered to try to explain it (much like Goldberg's heel turn). Monty could be carrying TNA right now if he wasn't derailed so much. Monty is still over in the sense that AJ is still over. But much like AJ, he's been neutered by the stupid booking.

 

By the way, you're the one who said there weren't any credible ME guys (but you blamed it on Dusty, of course). You should agree with me here.

[Carnival 0]

I never said JJ was the booker

 

wait for it.

 

So.... In a wrestling promotion that Jeff Jarrett owns and books,

 

what was that again? Just so there is no confusion it's not booked in past tense...but books..in the present tense. So you DID say it.

 

By the way, you're the one who said there weren't any credible ME guys

 

Styles, Abyss, Brown, Nash, DDP, Killings.

 

Those are all guys who could step in to a main event. If built up properly you could add Raven, Daniels, and Hardy to that list.

 

Of course TNA has built up nobody to challange Styles...cuz Dusty is an idiot and so are the rest of the booking committee.

 

What i'm saying here is that TNA has no long term plan. Abyss maybe. But besides him who can you see taking on Styles for the belt? Maybe Brown, Maybe Jarrett again. But that is lame. Dusty booked this for Styles to go over, and that is it. TNA's wad is blown.

 

If they wait 1 fuckin month. Jarrett drops the belt to a newly turned face Monty Brown. They have the obvious rematch and Brown goes over again. Ending this fued. Then they have any number of heels that could take on brown. Abyss, Raven, Daniels, Rhyno...etc. And they could have Jarrett feud with Styles. Monty drops the title to a heel...Raven? Daniels? and Styles wins it from them. All that would take 6-8 months at least. Now thats long term planning. But no...they've already blown the AJ win back, so WTF are they gonna do now?

 

And just for shits and giggles...

 

DDP and Nash - yes they were brought in to job. DDP can still go, so he can help get other talent over. Nash is injured btw, but he sucks anyways, he serves no purpose except name recognition.

 

Styles - The current Champ, obviously a credible ME.

 

Killings - Yes he has been booked horribly, but he almost beat abyss for the #1 contender. So obviously they still see him as uppermid-ME level.

 

Abyss - he has been getting screwed - but he's won 2 #1 contenderships, and just ME the lockdown PPV with Styles.

 

Monty - The heel turn was a good idea. How else are you going to keep Monty away from Jarrett for 4 months while they are slowly building up Slammaversary? Monty turns..tells Jarrett "you owe me one" meaning a title shot. Then monty win Gaunlet for #1 contender. Jarrett on impact says he's not working the next PPV cuz Monty is gonna lay down for him...Monty pounces Jarrett. and all he has to say is Jarrett didn't follow through with his promise ofthe title shot, so monty is just gonna take it. "Keep you friends close and your enemies closer" type thing. etc... etc... etc....

 

Again Jarrett booking things for the long term. But Dusty for whatever reason, just wanted to give the belt to Styles again. Randomly. Now TNA has no direction. And you wonder why i blame Dusty?

[Magus 0]

I have nothing better to do than argue with a Jeff Jarrett mark over the internet.

 

Oh wait, yes I do.

[Carnival 0]

...another one bites the dust.

[The Niggardly King 0]

All I wanna know is who though it would be a good idea to turn Monty and have him allign with Jarrett? Monty should have never turned, and he should have been destroying the "Jarrett Alliance" at every PPV before he got his rightful shot.

[Guest Desperate Housewife]

Ok....first line...listen to the crowd. Second line..don't listen to the crowd.

 

My issue with the promotion is that they only seem to listen to one man - Jeff Jarrett

 

Dusty booked this title switch! He quit but they stayed with HIS plan. If jarrett was in control, he would have held off for Monty.

 

So Jarrett can get it back for the WGN Deal

 

REACH!!!! And what a coincidence, your name is "desperate" housewife.

 

This is coming from the company that held off on a Raven title switch, TWICE, for no reason

 

but when it comes to having an understand of what is going on with TNA, your just as lost as their booking committee.

 

Here's what seems to happen in TNA. Jarrett says what he wants to happen, the booking commitee structure it so that he gets what he wants.

 

Styles, Abyss, Brown, Nash, DDP, Killings.

 

Styles - Made to look like a douche on Sunday

 

Abyss - Constantly buried

 

Brown - Currently in search of his balls, in the possession of one Jeff Leonard Jarrett

 

DDP - Shitcanned, and rightfully so.

 

Killings - Jobbed out beyond belief. I wouldnt buy him for a second as an ME.

 

its naive to say that he doesn't have creative control

 

Thank You

 

Those are all guys who could step in to a main event. If built up properly you could add Raven, Daniels, and Hardy to that list.

 

I'd buy Daniels. ABSOLUTELY NOone else.

 

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-DDP and Nash both recieved title shots with no build up and then jobbed to Jarrett to make him look good. Of course they were OVER, but their purpose was to make Jarrett look big league. That purpose is over, and now Nash is gone and TNA doesn't know what to do with Page. They certainly aren't putting him in the title picture.

-Styles has been neutered so many times by Jarrett it just isn't funny. JJ treats Styles like he isn't in his league, has never lost to him clean, and always gets his heat back. Even though he's been a champion three times, Styles has always just kept the belt warm for Jarrett. The booking shows that.

-Killings as a credible main eventer? He lost the title to Jarrett and then got shafted with 3LK. That isn't a main event treatment push, so don't make me laugh.

-Abyss? We've all been talking about how much Abyss has been getting screwed. Everytime he gets a number one contender's spot, he gets shafted. Next.

-Monty? He's already on his way. The first mistake was not giving him the title when he first challenged for it. He was booked as a dominant monster, yet he couldn't beat Jeff Fucking Jarrett? That's not how Goldberg was built. The heel turn was the second mistake, as it makes no sense and TNA hasn't bothered to try to explain it (much like Goldberg's heel turn). Monty could be carrying TNA right now if he wasn't derailed so much. Monty is still over in the sense that AJ is still over. But much like AJ, he's been neutered by the stupid booking.

 

By the way, you're the one who said there weren't any credible ME guys (but you blamed it on Dusty, of course

 

What he said

 

What i'm saying here is that TNA has no long term plan

 

Man, thats just....logical, isnt it

 

If they wait 1 fuckin month. Jarrett drops the belt to a newly turned face Monty Brown

 

Jeff: Man, I think we should wait a month (or twelve), because Monty need to re-establish himself as a face, and the Trytan thing worked brilliantly, because it was my idea, so we'll do that again

 

And you wonder why i blame Dusty?

 

Because Jarrett wont give you some lovin' if you blame him?

 

All I wanna know is who though it would be a good idea to turn Monty and have him allign with Jarrett

 

Jarrett.

[Carnival 0]

All I wanna know is who though it would be a good idea to turn Monty and have him allign with Jarrett

 

Jarrett.

I don't know who it was, but the original plan Jarrett had was to drop the belt to Monty in January. So i doubt Jarrett wanted the heel turn. Since Dusty was booking i'd say he's the logical choice, but the idea could have been brought up by Jerry Jarrett or Jeff or Borash or Carter....

 

Nobody knows.

 

Because Jarrett wont give you some lovin' if you blame him?

 

Another Desperate attempt from a Desperate hater.

 

Your whole point of view is that Jarrett is booking this company. And your 100% wrong. Go read some past threads, get your facts straight, then you can start rambling about how jarrett is the anti-christ.

 

Or better yet...if you "don't give a shit about TNA"...don't post in here.

[Guest Desperate Housewife]

Because Jarrett wont give you some lovin' if you blame him?

 

Another Desperate attempt from a Desperate hater.

 

Your whole point of view is that Jarrett is booking this company. And your 100% wrong. Go read some past threads, get your facts straight, then you can start rambling about how jarrett is the anti-christ.

 

Or better yet...if you "don't give a shit about TNA"...don't post in here.

I can't be wrong if Jarrett has creative control and outright refuses to drop the belt and turns faces who are getting too over for his liking, and tries to cut the balls off any heel who look more credible than he does.

 

Your constant pro-Jarrett standpoint is baffling, given that he is running the company into the ground.

 

 

As for me, yeah, I'm a raging WWE-Fangirl, and there's nothing more I'd like to see than real competition for the E, but not a company run, booked and headlined by a midcarder.

[Carnival 0]

Jarrett has creative control, but thats it. Just like Triple H. He has some input but doesn't book the shows, nor does he have the final say. So Jarrett can be labeled a politician but that is it. How many times does someone have to say it.

 

Jarrett isn't booking the shows!

 

If you don't get it by now, you must have some mental handicap.

 

Besides I'm not a fan of Jarrett's booking either. I think Dusty was worse, but Jarrett wasn't good at all either.

 

So if you want someone to blame for TNA sucking lately, blame Dusty.

[Magus 0]

Jeff Jarrett isn't the booker. Everyone knows that. He just has a lot of creative control and is simultaneously an on-air character. History shows that to be a bad combination.

 

By having that kind of political power, much like Hogan in WCW, or Triple H on RAW, isn't Jarrett hurting TNA in the same ways? That's what everyone's been trying to say to you.

[tominator89 0]

Head booker or not, I fail to see how an OWNER does not have the final say in how his company is being run. Obviously things would be different if TNA were a publically traded company. And as far as Panda goes, they seem interested in seeing TNA succeed, but it's clearly Jarrett's company to play with.

[Guest Desperate Housewife]

Panda want the company to succeed, Jeff and his Daddy, want only one person to succeed - Jeff.

 

Carnival is bordering on psychotic if he doesn't believe Jeff is killing the company.

 

Because, and here's the kicker - he's running the shows. And booking them, whether he likes it or not.

[Carnival 0]

Jeff Jarrett isn't the booker. Everyone knows that.

one more time....

 

So.... In a wrestling promotion that Jeff Jarrett owns and books,

 

ahhh...there we go.

 

By having that kind of political power, much like Hogan in WCW, or Triple H on RAW, isn't Jarrett hurting TNA in the same ways? That's what everyone's been trying to say to you.

 

I don't think everyone has been trying to say this to me, since I'm the first one who said it.

 

But i do agree ANY politician hurts his company, even Jarrett. Just Jarrett is to a lesser extent, merely cuz TNA doesn't have the star power the other companies did.

 

 

Head booker or not, I fail to see how an OWNER does not have the final say in how his company is being run.

 

I would say that too, but according to the news lately the Carters have been making the decisions.

 

Because, and here's the kicker - he's running the shows. And booking them, whether he likes it or not.

 

ahh ok you are mental. continue to spout off nonsense, i will just ignore it.

[Guest Desperate Housewife]

But i do agree ANY politician hurts his company, even Jarrett. Just Jarrett is to a lesser extent, merely cuz TNA doesn't have the star power the other companies did.

If ROH had the star power and TV opportunities TNA has - they'd be pulling in 2.0 ratings, no question.

 

TNA, at various points, have had the greatest talent pool in an independent wrestling promotion in North America, fully understanding the need to seperately push both heavyweights and cruisers, having the Internets assembled favourite workers of all time and PISSED IT ALL AWAY in favour of getting Jeff Jarrett over. AND IT'S FAILED.

 

Mark My Words - Abyss, Bobby Roode, Monty Brown, The AMW, and Lance Hoyt, and to a lesser extent AJ Styles, Micheal Shane and Chris Sabin, will make MILLIONS for Vince McMahon, within five years.

 

Ask CM Punk, Alex Shelley, Kid Kash, Low-Ki, D'Lo Brown, Chad Collyer and Joey Legend how their careers have been nearly ruined because of the almighty Jarrett and his idiotic booking.

 

Hell, when Ron Killings won the World Title, it was considered the best moment in Independent Wrestling, and TNA pissed that away - in Favour of Jarrett

 

The S.E.X. Storyline - ruined, to get Jarrett over.

 

Raven? Fucked over, in favour of Jarrett.

 

I bet Jeff is counting the days until he can get Matt Hardy to job to him

 

Vince Russo, one of the most creative minds in wrestling, wether you like him or not? Nearly ruined because of, wait for it, Jarrett.

 

A talented tag team like Mike and Todd Shane? Fucked over before they even got started

 

Panda Energy? Losing millions because TNA has turned into a vanity project for a guy who can't come to terms with his station in the wrestling world.

 

When TNA dies, and it will, with a whimper, not a bang, and Vince McMahon lets HHH take a dump on the NWA Title, and IMPACT becomes a footnote on WWE 24/7, and Jeff Jarrett is wrestling in barns in front of 30 people, I dare you to defend him then.

[Carnival 0]

Ok i can't ignore these gems....

 

If ROH had the star power and TV opportunities TNA has - they'd be pulling in 2.0 ratings, no question.

 

PISSED IT ALL AWAY in favour of getting Jeff Jarrett over. AND IT'S FAILED.

 

Abyss, Bobby Roode, Lance Hoyt, will make MILLIONS for Vince McMahon, within five years.

 

Hell, when Ron Killings won the World Title, it was considered the best moment in Independent Wrestling

 

I bet Jeff is counting the days until he can get Matt Hardy to job to him

 

[Guest Desperate Housewife]

Not that you responded to any of them

[Carnival 0]

laughing is the only response they deserve.

[Guest Desperate Housewife]

Laughing is the only thing I can do when I see Jeff Jarrett and his booking

[snuffbox 0]

Damn...theres really a Jerrett mark in the world?

[Adam 0]

God, I think I just lost an IQ point from reading Carnivalz posts. The guy is hellbent on defending Jarrett when about five others all have very valid points that point to Jeff being an asshole. Carnivalz, dude, Jarrett isn't over, ROH WOULD pull a 2.0 rating if given the proper time, and Killings' victory, while I didn't see it at the time, was a landmark moment. Go blow your hero some more.

[Guest Desperate Housewife]

Thanks for backing me up man. Carnival, frankly, is bordering on delusional. And the anti-ROH thing smacks of TNA Fanboy ism

[Carnival 0]

if you hate TNA so much...then don't post in here. You add NOTHING to the conversation.

 

Adam - tell me how Killings win was a "landmark moment"

He wasn't the first Black champ like they say he was, i agree it was cool, but it was not something kids will talking about for years to come.

 

Anyone who thinks ROH would pull a 2.0 on ANY network is insane. If ROH had TNA's timeslot they would get WORSE ratings than TNA. I'm not saying ROH is worse product than TNA, I'm just saying they don't have the star power TNA does(which isn't much).

 

And who is TNA's star power...Jeff Jarrett would be at the top of list. Kevin Nash if he comes back is more of a star than Jarrett. DDP would be too...Scott Hall too. But right now it's Jeff that can't be denied. So why not have your company's biggest star be on top?

 

Desperate Housewife's points...were nothing but HUGE reaches and an attempt to get me in a debate on why random wrestlers aren't over. I agree on a few though...Raven being one.

 

Not to mention those idiotic predictions. yikes

 

Adam - how can you lose IQ from reading my posts???

 

Mine are far less biased and idiotic. At least i can actually agree with people on some points, while others will still argue over FACTS.

 

I'm not a TNA-fanboy...i personally like TNA the least i ever have right now.

[Guest Desperate Housewife]

if you hate TNA so much...then don't post in here

 

I love TNA, but I don't like an idiotic petty booker destroying the promotion because he has a grudge with the wrestling world.

 

Know what Jarrett's problem, in a nutshell, is? He believes, that in five years, people will remember him as some sort of wrestling icon, and hero to billions. They won't. They'll remember him as the guy that jobbed to Chyna on PPV.

 

Jarrett reminds me of Hogan running WCW, bringing in Warrior and trying to bring in Yoko, spefically to get jobs back.

 

He wasn't the first Black champ like they say he was, i agree it was cool, but it was not something kids will talking about for years to come.

 

You idiot. The stuff being written about Killings and TNA at the time, TNA could have been massive. So they pissed it away in favour of Jarrett.

 

nyone who thinks ROH would pull a 2.0 on ANY network is insane. If ROH had TNA's timeslot they would get WORSE ratings than TNA. I'm not saying ROH is worse product than TNA, I'm just saying they don't have the star power TNA does(which isn't much).

 

Typical TNA Fanboy/anti-ROH position. At least ROH knows how to use CM Punk and Alex Shelley properly.

 

Does Jarrett even know who CM Punk even is?

 

Desperate Housewife's points...were nothing but HUGE reaches and an attempt to get me in a debate on why random wrestlers aren't over

 

They're not over, because Jarrett buried them, in favour of, wait for it, pushing, wait for it, HIMSELF.

 

Mine are far less biased and idiotic

 

Read that thing below you're avatar, and then look up the definition of the word bias.

 

i personally like TNA the least i ever have right now.

 

But yet you worship the guy who runs the company, books the shows and gives himself a massive amount of TV Time everyweek.

 

Sure.

[Carnival 0]

Know what Jarrett's problem, in a nutshell, is? He believes, that in five years, people will remember him as some sort of wrestling icon, and hero to billions. They won't.

This I agree with. Much like Hunter, Jeff thinks he's gonna be one of the all-time greats. He's not. Hunter on the other hand probably will.

 

You idiot. The stuff being written about Killings and TNA at the time, TNA could have been massive. So they pissed it away in favour of Jarrett.

 

OOOOH!!! They wrote things about it. Big fuckin deal. It wasn't any more special than AJ winning it.

 

Typical TNA Fanboy/anti-ROH position.

 

I like ROH...now your telling what i like and don't like...hmmm....good point!

 

Read that thing below you're avatar, and then look up the definition of the word bias.

 

But I am willing to admit Jarrett is a cancer...you can even admit when you have FACTS wrong.

 

This arguement is over, unless you can post something that actually makes sense.

[Guest Desperate Housewife]

Here's something that makes sense. Alex Shelley gave up his job to work for TNA. I read his livejournal, so I know what he's talking about. Shelley was regarded as one of the breakout stars of 2004.

 

What did Jarrett, because it was Jarrett, and Dirty Dutch "TNA'S FANBASE IS MEN OVER 45" Mantell booking, do with him? Made him Golidlocks' slave. And feuded him with Abyss. Which, by the way. Never went anyway.

 

CM Punk? Absolute Indy Sensation, feud of the decade in TWO Promotionswith Raven becomes, wait for it, Raven's (as a fuck you to ROH, they had the pair team up) lackey. Teamed with a former WWE Jobber with the unlikely distinction of working the Heroes of Wrestling PPV. Watched as the valet went to the WWE. Turned on Raven. Did fuck all. Possibly on his way back despite chance Jarrett doesn't actually know who he is.

 

Joe Legend? Feuding with Jarrett to teaming with Kevin Northcutt in a jobber tag team, within the space of TWO WEEKS. No wonder he's bitter.

 

D'Lo Brown. Actually questions TNA taking a percentage of his booking fee for no apparant reason other than to fill...wait for it...Jarrett's pockets, and is immediatly jobbed out and never seen again.

 

Abyss? Absolutely INCREDIBLE heel. For a guy his size, and unfair comparison to Mankind (which I myself made), is the only guy in TNA who truly gets the heel thing. Give him a mouthpiece and he's easily the only realistic choice for World Champion. Makes the cardinal error of being a heel more over than - wait for it - Jarrett, and is duly fucked over at every turn.

 

Petey Williams? Don't get me started.

 

AJ Styles? Face. Heel. Face. Heel. Back in Nashville he seemed to turn everyweek. Made the Abyss mistake and was given a manager taller then he is, then they make him talk. Constantly bounced from the heavies to the cruisers, no one buys him in either.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I could go on. Carnival, I'm begging ya. Defend Jarrett

[Carnival 0]

You can't possibly blame Jarrett alone for all of those things.

 

Well i guess YOU can. Reach all you want, i refuse to listen, you've proven that you clearly don't know what you are talking about.

 

Goodbye

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Whether he knows what he's talking about or not, you're the last person who should have a go at anyone for not knowing what they're talking about.