Give me reasons to hate Shawn Michaels.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Give me reasons to hate Shawn Michaels

 

He's only jobbed once CLEAN in a singles match since he came back from injury. Yup, you guessed it. WM 21.

[pochorenella 0]

What exactly is your definition of losing CLEAN? Without outside interference only, or without the opponent cheating? If it's the former you can add vs Edge at RR2005 when he grabbed the ropes, or vs Orton (Unforgiven?) when he used brass knucks (Flair didn't factor much in the finish.) If it's the latter, then what high profile babyface (other than Jericho) loses CLEAN regularly to a high profile heel without the heel cheating (other than HHH)?

 

And they may not be singles matches per se, but HBK did lose CLEAN at SummerSlam 2003 to Goldberg and to Benoit at Backlash 2004.

[Shanghai Kid 0]

Give me reasons to hate Shawn Michaels

 

He's only jobbed once CLEAN in a singles match since he came back from injury. Yup, you guessed it. WM 21.

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Honestly, since when do top Faces lose clean to heels? As a heel I'd understand if was like HHH he was just burying guys and not losing, but as a top face who is looked at as a legend?

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Seriously though, you can't claim that he screwed Bret cuz Vince did. Sure he probably enjoyed that Bret got humiliated but it wasnt his call. Uless you have some source saying that it was shanw who got in vinces head and convinced him to do it, my opinion doesnt change.

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Ahhh yes, thats why HBK was a bitch about returing the job.

 

And Bret wasnt being a whiny bitch by saying he couldnt lose to shawn and couldnt lose in canada? remember he offered to lose to anyone but shawn in anyplace but canada. wtf is that about? I understand why Bret hated shawn adn I don't blame him for it, but he should have just set an example and done the professional thing. in hindsight Bret could have relented and jobbed the belt to michaels at a houseshow before the PPV and at the ppv won by DQ, but hindsight is 20/20 .

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Seriously though, you can't claim that he screwed Bret cuz Vince did. Sure he probably enjoyed that Bret got humiliated but it wasnt his call. Uless you have some source saying that it was shanw who got in vinces head and convinced him to do it, my opinion doesnt change.

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Ahhh yes, thats why HBK was a bitch about returing the job.

 

And Bret wasnt being a whiny bitch by saying he couldnt lose to shawn and couldnt lose in canada? remember he offered to lose to anyone but shawn in anyplace but canada. wtf is that about? I understand why Bret hated shawn adn I don't blame him for it, but he should have just set an example and done the professional thing. in hindsight Bret could have relented and jobbed the belt to michaels at a houseshow before the PPV and at the ppv won by DQ, but hindsight is 20/20 .

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To say that the 2 of them didnt get on is an understatement. But HBK was being a bitch for not wanting to return the job. Bret wanted to leave the WWE on a high and with his character in tact. HBK could have stood up to Vince like the UT did.

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Given the build up to Survivor Series, Bret dropping the belt before the PPV would have been idiotic. And, for the record, Bret did agree to lose the belt to Shawn, just not in Canada and after Survivor Series, which is a little bit more flexible than outright refusing to job and never budging.

[zyn081 0]

Given the build up to Survivor Series, Bret dropping the belt before the PPV would have been idiotic. And, for the record, Bret did agree to lose the belt to Shawn, just not in Canada and after Survivor Series, which is a little bit more flexible than outright refusing to job and never budging.

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And didnt Bret say that he would personally relinquish the title on RAW and hand it over to Vince the next night?

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Shawn appeared in Playgirl. If you don't hate him for that, then you won't ever hate him.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Given the build up to Survivor Series, Bret dropping the belt before the PPV would have been idiotic. And, for the record, Bret did agree to lose the belt to Shawn, just not in Canada and after Survivor Series, which is a little bit more flexible than outright refusing to job and never budging.

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And didnt Bret say that he would personally relinquish the title on RAW and hand it over to Vince the next night?

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That was one scenario suggested.

[snuffbox 0]

Bret had more **** matches than Shawn as well. Im not going to bother looking it up but Randy Savage may have had more as well.

[zyn081 0]

Given the build up to Survivor Series, Bret dropping the belt before the PPV would have been idiotic. And, for the record, Bret did agree to lose the belt to Shawn, just not in Canada and after Survivor Series, which is a little bit more flexible than outright refusing to job and never budging.

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And didnt Bret say that he would personally relinquish the title on RAW and hand it over to Vince the next night?

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That was one scenario suggested.

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It was a rheotorical question.

[Jericholic82 0]

Shawn appeared in Playgirl. If you don't hate him for that, then you won't ever hate him.

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Huh? Why would you hate him for that? That's a bit odd.

 

 

Anyhow Shawn Haters may check out my signature quote.

[Guest Rrrsh]

Your sig is sad.

 

Mr Zuccini is probably sadder.