WWE news on the Ultimate Warrior DVD

[Guest *KNK*]

Wait, Warrior/HHH is shown in entireity? Sold.

[SuperJerk 0]

IYeah, everyone on the roster shits all over the guy, but they're mainly repeating the exact same stuff that Meltzer and Keller and everyone else have been saying about the guy for years. Yeah, the guys promos were unitelligible, the guys personal life was really strange, he had no love for the buisness, was a terrible worker, and was an unprofessional prick backstage, what else is new? It's a fairly entertaining retrospective on the guys career, but to call it a burial is mislabling what it is, WWE is just calling a spade a spade.

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I guess we can expect a Goldberg DVD anytime now as well.

[Guest *KNK*]

IYeah, everyone on the roster shits all over the guy, but they're mainly repeating the exact same stuff that Meltzer and Keller and everyone else have been saying about the guy for years. Yeah, the guys promos were unitelligible, the guys personal life was really strange, he had no love for the buisness, was a terrible worker, and was an unprofessional prick backstage, what else is new? It's a fairly entertaining retrospective on the guys career, but to call it a burial is mislabling what it is, WWE is just calling a spade a spade.

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I guess we can expect a Goldberg DVD anytime now as well.

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They could always do business again with Goldberg, Goldberg left on good terms (generally speaking) and besides the usual politics, Goldberg and WWE never had issues nearly @ the same level as Warrior did with McMahon.

 

Mocking Goldberg would get old, while Warrior was just so fucked up that there's a wide source of material to work with.

[SuperJerk 0]

I think you may be underestimating Vince's capacity to be a dick.

[cabbageboy 0]

Am I the only one who actually liked the Warrior? Sure his interviews were coked out and bizarre, that was part of the appeal, haha. And I think he's better than Goldberg ring wise. Anyone want to name a Goldberg match better than Warrior/Macho from WM 7?

 

They really go over the Shango feud, huh? That's...great.

[spman 0]

Am I the only one who actually liked the Warrior?  Sure his interviews were coked out and bizarre, that was part of the appeal, haha.  And I think he's better than Goldberg ring wise.  Anyone want to name a Goldberg match better than Warrior/Macho from WM 7?

 

They really go over the Shango feud, huh?  That's...great.

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Well, the feature isn't a total burial of the guy in the sense that he isn't given any creidt at all. Vince, Bruce Pritchard, and others admit that for a brief period of time, the man did have a certain charisma and an ability to connect with the fans that made him stand out. Even at the end of the disc, Jericho says that in his opinion, Warrior was underrated even as a worker, and that when the time was nescessary, Warrior could put on his working boots and keep up with Savage and Rude.

[Guest *KNK*]

Am I the only one who actually liked the Warrior?  Sure his interviews were coked out and bizarre, that was part of the appeal, haha.  And I think he's better than Goldberg ring wise.  Anyone want to name a Goldberg match better than Warrior/Macho from WM 7?

 

They really go over the Shango feud, huh?  That's...great.

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To Goldberg's defense, he was never given 25 minutes with a talent like Savage who planned his matches out so specifically to maximize the match's potential.

 

The closest Goldberg got to a Savage like worker was DDP and DDP was far below Savage's level.

 

Notice Warrior could work specifically designed "epic" matches, on his own? He was worthless.

 

Goldberg never was given that chance, so it's not an entirely fair comparison.

[Downhome 0]

I never had a problem with the guy in the business itself. When I was younger I was a huge fan, and even when he went back to WWE that last time and even when he went to WCW, I couldn't help but mark out for the guy since I liked him so much at one time. He was a part of two of my favorite oldschoo matches, both of which are on this DVD, and I also liked some of his other matches.

 

I only started to mock the guy after we all started to see how he was in reality, how he beleived that he really was the character, coming up with something of almost a religion based on himself. I mean, come on, THE COMIC BOOK, heh.

 

The guy is a moron, and even though I liked him in the ring, I can still say that proudly. He's not the kind of moron I'd like to see go away though. I get a kick out of his unintentional comedy. The world needs people like that, just for the laughs.

 

As far as Warrior being better than Goldberg in the ring:

 

Had Goldberg been pushed the right way, and booked differently, and put in matches with the right guys, I still believe we could have seen some truly solid matches involving the guy. We got bits and pieces now and then, like in his matches with DDP, etc... but they never really let him get that far. They thought of him as only a monster, so that is how he was booked. Goldberg had enough talent, and in ring charisma, that he could have had more historic matches than he did. I've seen guys a lot worse than Goldberg in the ring go a lot longer and do a lot more than he ever did.

 

If you want to talk about a connection to the fans, Goldberg could equal Warrior in that department, if not beat him out. I'd say at Goldberg's height, he was a lot more ove than Warrior ever was.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Goldberg was tremendously underrated as a worker. And even though he was never a great worker, he was still tons better than Warrior ever was.

[haws bah gawd 0]

A buddy of mine has an old Warrior promo on Hercules that is nothing short of the greatest thing I've ever heard. He rambles something about them walking throught he forest of destiny but only one of them will carry the axe of undoing to chop down the trees of dispair. I haven't watched the video in a while but its pretty funny.

 

Then theres always his promo on Bobby Heenan and Rick Rude which is a classic in its own right:

 

Warrior - MEAN GENE!!!! DO YOU KNOW WHAT RICK RUDE AND BOBBY HEENAN HAVE IN COMMON WITH...........THE LIBERTY BELL?!?!?!?!?

*looks at Gene in disgust because the obligatory "I dont know, what?" answer wasn't given right away*

Gene - Uh........what?

Warrior - ONE IS CRACKED........AND THE OTHER.........IS A DIIIIING DOOOOOOOONG!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA

*looks at Gene with murder in his eyes until Gene laughs at his joke*

 

This question is to the guys that already have the dvd. Is Christian the only wrestler that does a Warrior impersonation?

[spman 0]

Yeah, Christian does his impression of the WM 6 promo about Warrior hijacking Hogans plane or something. That's the only one I've seen.

[AndrewTS 0]

Goldberg had more good matches than Warrior, IMO, so the potential would be there for an enjoyable DVD. Plus, there were matches that weren't so hot that still were important and would be nice to see pop up again.

 

Stuff that might make good additions--

 

Raven/Goldberg - US title win

DDP/Goldberg - Havoc 98

Hogan/Goldberg - the title win on free TV--gives a chance to bury WCW some more.

Nash/Goldberg - first "official" loss; they'd crap on GB and put over Nash of course.

Rock/Goldberg - being his big wwe debut match, entertaining promos/segments.

[haws bah gawd 0]

Yeah, Christian does his impression of the WM 6 promo about Warrior hijacking Hogans plane or something. That's the only one I've seen.

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Spman, you have officially sold me on this dvd.

[Downhome 0]

Goldberg had more good matches than Warrior, IMO, so the potential would be there for an enjoyable DVD.  Plus, there were matches that weren't so hot that still were important and would be nice to see pop up again.

 

Stuff that might make good additions--

 

Hogan/Goldberg - the title win on free TV--gives a chance to bury WCW some more.

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I'd put the match he had with Scott Hall that same night (the one that where if he won he could get the title match in the first place) on the DVD as well, just to help build up that entre, and the main event.

 

His title win in WWE would be needed on the DVD also. I'd also include some of his work with Bret Hart, especially the iron plate under the jersey angle. I know it makes Goldberg look stupid, but I'd love to see it on a Goldberg DVD. You could do a doube disc set for Goldberg very easily. One of the bonus features could be a quick video showing him winning all of the matches in his streak or something, of course staring with where he put down Hugh and then looked into the camera and said "that's number one", or whatever it was exactly.

 

Anyway, the entire point to own this Warrior DVD is for the main feature, and it is really worth it if you care about the guy at all, either in a good light or bad. I really can't wait for the Roberts DVD now, the main feature on that one is going to be one of the best I bet.

[Downhome 0]

I watched every single thing on this DVD last night, except for any possible easter eggs. Here are my favorite parts of the main feature:

 

-Talking about where "Parts Unknown" is located.

 

-The Ultimate Warrior interview showcase part of the show.

 

-Anything that Heenan or Mean Gene had to say! I loved hearing him tell the story about the Andre incident.

 

-Hogan talking about his match with Warrior at Halloween Havoc '98, including talking about, and really pointing out (even in slow motion), the fireball fuckup.

 

I thought it was a great DVD, that didn't really say much of anything new, but it's all pretty much true. We've heard most, if not all, of what the wrestlers and guys say from other people like Meltzer over the years. At times while watching it, I just sat back and looked at it amazed. I couldn't believe that this was something that WWE actually put together, it's very weird.

 

It's not all bad either, most everyone pointed out some positives of the guy as well. I don't think Heenan ever did though, he just based the shit ouf of the guy. The Brain is still, and forever will be, gold!

 

I still say pick this DVD up, it was well worth it to me.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Goldberg was tremendously underrated as a worker. And even though he was never a great worker, he was still tons better than Warrior ever was.

 

Sad, but true.

[Jericholic82 0]

I must have this now!

[pochorenella 0]

Damn you guys for making me interested in this piece of crap. I, too, was a Warrior fan until 1996 when he made his last WWF appearance.

 

But I still refuse to pay full price for this!!

[Downhome 0]

I find it weird seeing Mean Gene, Heenan, the wrestlers in WWE now, Vince, and everyone else just blantly saying that most of Warrior's matches just flat out sucked and painful to watch. I especially loved Mean Gene talking about Warrior's matches with Hercules.

 

I can just imagine in 10-20 years time seeing people looking back on the past few years and talking about some of the recently horrible bouts. One of my favorite quotes from the DVD, it's not exact but you get the idea:

 

"We had to change his name. I mean, a DINGO Warrior? No one hardly knew what a dingo was in the first place, much less a dingo WARRIOR."

[Slayer 0]

This reminds me of that cartoon someone had in their sig for awhile

 

WWE: "We're shootin'! Shootin'! Shoot shoot shootin'! Look at us shoot on Warrior!"

 

It's so blatant that even the comedic value is diminished

[Downhome 0]

I found an easter egg:

 

Go to the extras menu, then go to Warrior University and press right two times:

 

-It's the "Choose the path of the Warrior, The Journy Begins..." commercial about the blind black guy and another guy who almost ripped him off, but decided not to.

 

That's the only one I see on this DVD.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

I can just imagine in 10-20 years time seeing people looking back on the past few years and talking about some of the recently horrible bouts. One of my favorite quotes from the DVD, it's not exact but you get the idea:

 

"We had to change his name. I mean, a DINGO Warrior? No one hardly knew what a dingo was in the first place, much less a dingo WARRIOR."

 

Can you imagine if they didn't change name though and seeing how that classic promo would have gone instead?

 

I am not THIS warrior! I am not THAT warrior! I am the DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WARRIOR! GROWL! SNARL! WOLF! WOLF!

 

[Guest *KNK*]

I sat down and I watched the presentation and Basically my only reaction is...

 

"Where was the burial?".

 

I expected a scathing insult laden and complete and total burial and yet they gave Warrior a good deal of credit for his success and I felt they took it EASY on Warrior rather then what I felt they could have.

 

I was extremely disapointed in the extras. They include the two must have essential classics of Warrior's career (Hogan and Savage) but only slapped on 2 quickie squash matches (although one was quite famous yet was completely shown already in the feature) and the decent Rude match.

 

No new ground was broke here by this DVD, it provided an almost accurate protrayal of Warrior's career although you have to swallow alot of self serving praise for WWE. I felt Sarge and Dibiase dominated to much of the feature but Heenan in his absolute bitter hatred for Warrior was, as always a delight to watch.

 

Has anyone else figured this out? WWE isn't putting out DVD legacy collections for former wrestlers...but rather their own spin on SHOOT INTERVIEWS.

 

That's basically what this DVD and the forthcoming Roberts DVD are, SHOOT interviews.

 

No one brought this DVD for the 2 classic matches that easily accessible but rather the main "shoot" (although it's a company wide shoot on one person, rather then a lone person(s) shooting). That was the appeal of this DVD and for people like us, we aren't learning anything new.

 

The same stories are re-told and in some cases, the same jokes are used. It was cute to see Triple H stock footage from 2000 for his section and seeing him job out like that was a welcome treat.

 

If you haven't brought this dvd and you are on the fence, then don't get it. Because if you really wanted to see it, you would already gotten it or planned to get it.

 

You aren't missing anything really significant other then a couple good matches, a few good insults and a pair of great comedy bits from Christian and Jericho (as you would expect, Edge-Jericho-Christian, WWE's resident smarks offered a different yet comical perspective).

[jester 0]

-Hogan talking about his match with Warrior at Halloween Havoc '98, including talking about, and really pointing out (even in slow motion), the fireball fuckup.

 

 

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Whoaaa... That's worth seeing. Hogan isn't one to go around admitting mistakes and weaknesses.

 

Or does he blame someone else for it?

[Downhome 0]

-Hogan talking about his match with Warrior at Halloween Havoc '98, including talking about, and really pointing out (even in slow motion), the fireball fuckup.

 

 

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Whoaaa... That's worth seeing. Hogan isn't one to go around admitting mistakes and weaknesses.

 

Or does he blame someone else for it?

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He totally admits that it was his fault, and that his own screwup fucked the match up. Everyone totally bashes that match, even Bishoff and Hogan himself, it's great to see.

[jester 0]

He totally admits that it was his fault, and that his own screwup fucked the match up. Everyone totally bashes that match, even Bishoff and Hogan himself, it's great to see.

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Hmm. I just might be another buyer here.

[Guest *KNK*]

Hogan was actually hilarious during the Warrior in WCW section of the dvd.

[res37618 0]

Hogan was actually hilarious during the Warrior in WCW section of the dvd.

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I agree, he was pretty funny. It was really cool to see Hogan say "yeah, I fucked up, it was a shitty match" instead of blaming it completely on the Warrior. And earlier in the DVD, when discussing Warrior's "holdup" of Vince for more money on the day of SummerSlam '91, he openly admits that "we've all done it in some form or fashion, but the day of a PPV isn't the right time." He could've lied and said he'd never do that to Vince, or Turner, or anyone, but he was truthful and told it like it was. Hogan is pretty humble in this thing, taking as much blame and giving Warrior as much credit as he can. He COULD'VE been an ass, but for the most part decided against it, especially odd considering the guy he's discussing IS a complete ass.

[Guest *KNK*]

This dvd reminded me that I'm going to miss Jericho's place in the WWE DVD's.

 

I wonder who will assume Jericho's position with Edge & Christian as WWE's resident smarks...

[Guest lo0p]

is the set single disk or double disk?

And how long in the main feature?