BCS Standings - Week 1

[CanadianChris 0]

1. USC

2. Texas

3. Virginia Tech

4. Georgia

5. Alabama

6. LSU

7. Texas Tech

8. Miami

9. UCLA

10. Penn State

11. Florida State

12. Boston College

 

It's too bad Penn State lost this past weekend, because I would have been very interested to see their placement if they were still undefeated.

 

Notre Dame, incidentally, is 16th. They get an automatic at-large if they have nine wins and a top-12 BCS ranking at the end of the season (which means they need to win every remaining game).

[Vern Gagne 0]

It's too bad they don't take strength of schedule into account. Texas Tech has no business being ranked 7th.

[Slayer 0]

Yeah well, they used to take SoS into account, but people bitched and they dropped it... just like they used to take magrin of victory into account, but people bitched and they dropped that.

 

It's fucked either way. Just Old Yeller the system already

[Vern Gagne 0]

I can understand dropping margin of victory. Texas Tech would be light years ahead of anyone else. SoS should be a crucial factor in these rankings.

[Guest I miss Test.]

Ah, so USC is also #1 in these.

 

All college coaches should teach their players to pitch the ball out of bounds during 2-minute drills.

[Guest MikeSC]

Don't blame them for having not lost in well over a year.

[Guest I miss Test.]

I didn't know last year's record counted.

 

I guess the Patriots deserve every tiebreaker in the AFC this year, due to their domination in 2004.

[Bored 0]

Here's the rest of the Top 25:

 

13. Oregon

14. Wisconsin

15. Ohio State

16. Notre Dame

17. West Virginia

18. Auburn

19. Tennessee

20. Florida

21. TCU

22. Minnesota

23. Nebraska

24. Michigan State

25. California

 

Notre Dame has terrible computer numbers. By the computers only they are #25 overall.

[nogoodnick 0]

Texas Tech will be exposed soon enough. And Notre Dame is a better team than a lost of the higher ranked teams but they do have 2 losses and that win against Michigan is that big anymore.

[iggymcfly 0]

Yeah, it's the margin of victory thing again. For all the computers know, Notre Dame could have lost to USC by 30 and Michigan State by 27. The idea that they can't have some capped margin of victory standard involved in the computer rankings is ridiculous.

 

If they capped it at 28 points, they wouldn't have to worry about poor Rice getting 100 points rung up on them by Texas, but they wouldn't take away crucial information from the computers' determinations.

 

Using the Sagarin ratings again as an example, since they're convenient for me to find, the "official" Sagarin rankings used by the BCS that don't take margin of victory into account have Notre Dame at 23, whereas Sagarin's real rankings of which teams are best have the Irish at 12.

 

Also, since margin of victory is incorporated in terms of what opponent was faced and not blindly as some naively assume, Texas Tech has actually been helped by the flaws in the system. The official BCS rankings that only take into account games played have Texas Tech at 6, while Sagarin's real ratings have Tech at 8 and his "pure points" rankings have them at 16. This is because Tech's poor performances against Kansas and Nebraska would actually affect them much more than whether they blew out I-AA teams as they were expected to.

 

Oh, and for the record, Texas Tech's SOS is ranked 138th, falling behind several I-AA teams, and ranking below any team ranked in the Top 80. If you look at I-A teams exclusively, Texas Tech's SOS is second to last, leading only Arkansas State.

[Damaramu 0]

Yeah well, they used to take SoS into account, but people bitched and they dropped it... just like they used to take magrin of victory into account, but people bitched and they dropped that.

 

It's fucked either way.  Just Old Yeller the system already

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I've said it before.

The computers put OU into the title game over USC when the humans would have the USC/LSU matchup. ESPN and everyone cries loudly that humans should mean more.

The humans mean more and put Texas into the Rose Bowl over Cal. ESPN and everyone cries and moans loudly again that the humans are screwing it up.

[The Robfather 0]

College Football Playoffs

 

'Nuf said.

[CanadianChris 0]

College Football Playoffs

 

'Nuf said.

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Never happening.

[UZI Suicide 0]

If there were Playoffs, people would still bitch about the 4 or 8 teams that get in.

[therealworldschampion 0]

Notre Dame has to win out to get into a BCS bowl. There will be games between several of the teams above them, so the path will clear up for them as long as they win out.

[Vern Gagne 0]

I think their schedule is pretty favorable. Even if they only get in the Gator Bowl, we could see them take on a team like Miami, or Florida St.

[Guest MikeSC]

I didn't know last year's record counted.

 

I guess the Patriots deserve every tiebreaker in the AFC this year, due to their domination in 2004.

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You have a team that hasn't lost in a LONG time. They still haven't lost this season. They've beaten some decent teams and have a team that seems to play well against everybody.

 

How can you justify not having them first?

[Guest]

And their whole offense from last year is back for this season. That can't be forgotten.

[nogoodnick 0]

As far as USC goes theyre #1 until someone knocks em off.

[CanadianChris 0]

If there were Playoffs, people would still bitch about the 4 or 8 teams that get in.

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A team that finishes 9th (at 9-3 or something like that) and misses an 8-team playoff has a lot less to bitch about than a team that finished 3rd at 12-0 and misses a 2-team playoff.

[iggymcfly 0]

If there were Playoffs, people would still bitch about the 4 or 8 teams that get in.

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A team that finishes 9th (at 9-3 or something like that) and misses an 8-team playoff has a lot less to bitch about than a team that finished 3rd at 12-0 and misses a 2-team playoff.

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True that. One of the tenets of real competition is that no team should be eliminated without losing or tying at least one game, and college football's the only major sport that violates that.

[Slayer 0]

If there were Playoffs, people would still bitch about the 4 or 8 teams that get in.

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A team that finishes 9th (at 9-3 or something like that) and misses an 8-team playoff has a lot less to bitch about than a team that finished 3rd at 12-0 and misses a 2-team playoff.

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