BCS Standings 11/14

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Pretty boring from here on out and unless USC or Texas suffer a shocking loss.

 

1. USC

2. Texas

3. Miami

4. Penn State

5. LSU

6. Virginia Tech

7. Ohio State

8. Alabama

9. Notre Dame

10. Oregon

11. UCLA

12. West Virginia

 

13. Auburn

14. TCU

15. Michigan

16. Georgia

17. Fresno State

18. Louisville

19. Texas Tech

20. Wisconsin

21. Minnesota

22. Florida

23. South Carolina

24. Boston College

25. Oklahoma

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

I'm not sure how I feel about WVU making it into the top 12. On one hand, it makes their likely automatic bid look pretty respectable, and should at least make me feel better about having to watch Miami/West Virginia or LSU/Georgia vs. West Virginia. On the other, it gives the Big East another bonus towards holding on to its automatic bid.

[Guest Vitamin X]

Bowl bid! woohoo!

 

So what would happen if UCLA were to beat USC on Dec. 3rd? Would Miami then get a shot at the championship against Texas?

[C Dubya 04 0]

If UCLA wins against USC, I think it will be really close between Miami and USC for who gets in. Voters are really in love with USC right now, to the point that they might stay number 2 even with a loss.

[Damaramu 0]

OU gets 25 in the BCS! And if they beat Tech finally in the human polls.

[Vern Gagne 0]

Does a at-large team automatically get a BCS spot if they finish inside the Top 6.

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No have to finish in the Top 4 do get an automatic at-large. Top 6 rule applies to non-BCS schools only (see Utah last year).

[Guest Leelee]

And Notre Dame is they're in the Top 37, or something. Because they're Notre Dame.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

With Texas Tech falling into a hole of suck, the bizarro Sooners might end up in the Cotton Bowl. Wild.

 

Also, if 'Bama wins the Iron Bowl, I think it might be just about impossible for them to miss out on a BCS bid. Out of the eligible at-large teams I can't think of anyone except Notre Dame who would bring nearly the quantity of fans/fanaticism this particular season.

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Oklahoma/Texas Tech this Saturday will decide who goes to the Cotton Bowl. Colorado blew their chance by losing to Iowa State.

 

Alabama will most certainly not get a BCS bid if they lose the Iron Bowl as I'm not sure if they'd stay in the Top 12. The loser of the Iron Bowl probably goes to the Cotton Bowl. Alabama might have a shot at an at-large bid to the Orange Bowl if they win but I think they are a longshot as either Penn State or Notre Dame will probably land there against Miami. Fiesta Bowl would have no interest in them.

[Vern Gagne 0]

So who gets the last spot. LSU if they lose the SEC Championship game, Virginia Tech, or Ohio St?

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If Oregon keeps winning, the Fiesta Bowl would love to take them.

[Damaramu 0]

With Texas Tech falling into a hole of suck, the bizarro Sooners might end up in the Cotton Bowl.  Wild.

 

Also, if 'Bama wins the Iron Bowl, I think it might be just about impossible for them to miss out on a BCS bid.  Out of the eligible at-large teams I can't think of anyone except Notre Dame who would bring nearly the quantity of fans/fanaticism this particular season.

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The wildest thing is that OU is the #2 team in the Big XII again. So after all of this the Big XII turns into OU and Texas.......again.......just in different order.

 

From what I understand all the Big XII bowl tie-ins are going to be fighting like mad to get OU b/c they'll be a big draw and these bowls usually don't get the shot at OU in their bowl.

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Yes I think if Oklahoma loses to Texas Tech the Holiday Bowl will pick OU over Colorado. If Oklahoma wins, they'd pick Colorado over Texas Tech since Tech was there last year.

 

Edit: Let me revise that as there is scenerio where the Holiday Bowl would take Colorado over Oklahoma and that is if UCLA is the opponent since they already played Oklahoma. If Oregon ends up in the Fiesta Bowl then UCLA will be in the Holiday Bowl (this is all under the assumption Oregon beats Oregon State and USC beats UCLA).

[Guest Leelee]

Exciting bowl talk. I can't wait for the Fort Worth Bowl. And the Computer Bowl on blue turf.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

I'm just thrilled that the ACC will almost definitely not be sending Virginia out to Boise again this year. If Maryland qualifies, their reputation for miserable travel will probably make it their turn. Georgia Tech's been there recently, but 6-5 could send them there once more. If BC drops their final game to Maryland, and 2 of Clemson, Virginia, Georgia Tech, and Maryland finish 7-4, it could even be them. I don't know why the ACC renewed its contract with the Blue Turf Bowl; it doesn't pay recruiting dividends, and I'm hard-pressed to think of a shittier tie-in for a BCS conference. Every team would rather go at-large than there.

 

Also, even if they go 10-1, I don't like Virginia Tech's odds on an at-large bid at this point. The big problem is that they've already played two of the likely conference champs in Miami and West Virginia, and so the Orange Bowl--which hosts the ACC or Big East champ--won't grab them with their match-up choice. I can only see the Sugar Bowl being somewhat interested since VT brought a shitload of fans last year, but by the time they get their choice, both at-large bids would likely have been used up by bowls looking to avoid West Virginia.

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And the Sugar Bowl is at the bottom in priority this year because they host the title game next year so it is pretty much a lock the Sugar Bowl will be the SEC Champ vs. West Virginia.

 

Speaking of the MPC Computers I'm wondering if the WAC will lean on them to take Fresno State over Boise State (Fresno was there last year but that was because Boise went to the Liberty when that bid opened when Utah got into the BCS). The WAC's other bowl is the Hawaii Bowl and that's against the 3rd place team in Conference USA and I'd assume the conference would want it's champ against someone from a major conference. The WAC doesn't have an automatic tie in for it's champ.

[teke184 0]

The SEC will have left-over bowl bids when all is said and done.

 

LSU, Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, and South Carolina are all eligible now.

 

Tennessee could become eligible.

 

Vanderbilt, Ole Miss, Kentucky, Arkansas, Ole Miss, and Mississippi State all have 6 or more losses and are therefore ineligible for bowl bids.

 

 

 

Considering that the order for the SEC is, roughly, Sugar, Capitol One, Outback, Cotton, Peach, Independence, Music City, Houston, it's easy to say that there will be at least 1 unused bowl bid (Houston) and possibly 2 (Music City), if Vandy beats Tennessee.

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Actually, there's thought out there that the Orange Bowl might just take West Virginia because of the close regional tie-in, and the fact that the Mountaineers would bring plenty of fans. However, if there's a one-loss Penn State team on the table, I don't see how they could possibly pass them up.

[Vern Gagne 0]

Do teams have to go to a bowl game assigned to their conference? The Big 10 will likely have seven teams bowl eligible, with seven eligible spots.

[teke184 0]

Do teams have to go to a bowl game assigned to their conference? The Big 10 will likely have seven teams bowl eligible, with seven eligible spots.

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Depends on the league in question.

 

 

I know that the Liberty Bowl is able to take an At Large team to play the C-USA champion, but typically only if the league in question has enough bowl-eligible teams to fill the spot left behind by the At Large team.

 

Example- Louisville (C-USA) and Boise State (WAC) played last year because the WAC had more bowl eligible teams than they had bowl tie-ins.

 

 

This may be different for other leagues though.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

Do teams have to go to a bowl game assigned to their conference? The Big 10 will likely have seven teams bowl eligible, with seven eligible spots.

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Pretty much. Generally the assignments only seem to break if there are more teams eligible than spots. Any team can reject a bid, obviously, for whatever reason, but in most cases not relating to discipline (as in Clemson and South Carolina forgoing bowls after last year's brawl) there would be extreme pressure from the conference to accept and not piss off bowl sponsors. If someone's paying for the Motor City Bowl, they want their goddamn #7 Big Ten team way more than they want an at-large New Mexico team.

 

I know that the Liberty Bowl is able to take an At Large team to play the C-USA champion, but typically only if the league in question has enough bowl-eligible teams to fill the spot left behind by the At Large team.

 

Example- Louisville (C-USA) and Boise State (WAC) played last year because the WAC had more bowl eligible teams than they had bowl tie-ins.

Actually, I think this situation arose because of Utah making the BCS. Before this year, the Liberty Bowl had a contract with the C-USA and Mountain West champs. When Utah went to the Fiesta Bowl, the Mountain West released the Liberty Bowl from their obligation since no MWC team would be nearly as appealing as Utah would have been and since the Liberty had paid for their champ. The Liberty Bowl offered Boise State, and the WAC and Boise accepted since they wanted to get their conference champ out of the Blue Turf Bowl and into a high-profile game for once. Worked out great for everyone involved, really, and I'm kind of disappointed that C-USA and the WAC didn't work that out to be an annual thing.

 

This year, the Liberty only had a contract with C-USA, and next year, it's supposed to be a C-USA/SEC match-up. I think the SEC is dropping the Houston Bowl to someone else to make room for their 7th or 8th team to go.

[Guest Rrrsh]

Neither Oregon and UCLA not being in the Top 8 is bullshit

[Damaramu 0]

Neither Oregon and UCLA not being in the Top 8 is bullshit

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Who would you drop out in favor of those teams?

UCLA definitely doesn't deserve to be in the Top 10 after getting trounced by a team that only had 2 wins at that point.

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And the Sugar Bowl is at the bottom in priority this year because they host the title game next year so it is pretty much a lock the Sugar Bowl will be the SEC Champ vs. West Virginia.

 

Speaking of the MPC Computers I'm wondering if the WAC will lean on them to take Fresno State over Boise State (Fresno was there last year but that was because Boise went to the Liberty when that bid opened when Utah got into the BCS). The WAC's other bowl is the Hawaii Bowl and that's against the 3rd place team in Conference USA and I'd assume the conference would want it's champ against someone from a major conference. The WAC doesn't have an automatic tie in for it's champ.

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You mean the Fiesta Bowl doesn't get to host the Title game next year?

[Vern Gagne 0]

They should. Ohio St. beat Miami in the Fiesta Bowl, the year after Miami beat Nebraska in the Rose Bowl.

[Guest Vitamin X]

Neither Oregon and UCLA not being in the Top 8 is bullshit

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Who would you drop out in favor of those teams?

UCLA definitely doesn't deserve to be in the Top 10 after getting trounced by a team that only had 2 wins at that point.

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I'd probably rank Oregon and UCLA higher than Ohio State and maybe even Virginia Tech. VT just looked pathetic in their one game against a real opponent, and Ohio State has been pretty average most of the season from what I've seen. Sure they played Texas close, but maybe Texas isn't really that good, either.

[Damaramu 0]

Ok that's gotta be baiting or ignorance to say that maybe Texas isn't very good. You know that they're very very good if you've watched them at all.

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Hmmm that's right Fiesta Bowl is the host next year. Okay I have no idea why the Sugar Bowl is the bottom of the pecking order this year as I always figured it went in the reverse order of who's been hosting.

[Guest Vitamin X]

Ok that's gotta be baiting or ignorance to say that maybe Texas isn't very good. You know that they're very very good if you've watched them at all.

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I only watched their games against Ohio State and Texas Tech, so maybe that's it.