BCS Standings 11/14

[Vern Gagne 0]

Hmmm that's right Fiesta Bowl is the host next year. Okay I have no idea why the Sugar Bowl is the bottom of the pecking order this year as I always figured it went in the reverse order of who's been hosting.

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Could the location of the game this year have anything to do with it?

[Guest Ether]

I'm not sure how I feel about WVU making it into the top 12.  On one hand, it makes their likely automatic bid look pretty respectable, and should at least make me feel better about having to watch Miami/West Virginia or LSU/Georgia vs. West Virginia.  On the other, it gives the Big East another bonus towards holding on to its automatic bid.

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Wow. An anti-Big East comment from an ACC fan. What a surprise. How is it Virginia Tech had to leave the Big East to become one of the top 2 teams in a particular conference, or Boston College had to leave to win 5 conference games?

 

Even if WVU does lose one of their next two games, the Big East is still going to keep it's automatic BCS bid in the future. The only scenario that could put that in jeopardy right now are unbelievable collapses by WVU, South Florida, and Louisville that results in no Big East teams being ranked and allows a 6-5 Pitt team to grab the birth.

 

And would any bowl complain about being "stuck" with WVU, especially if they finish 10-1. It's all about money, and WVU will sell out their allottment within a day. Put your PR people to work if you feel it needs some positive promotion. The Fiesta Bowl angered me so much last year as they could have put a good build on the Pitt-Utah matchup, but pretty much chose to whine while everybody else dumped on the game.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

Wow.  An anti-Big East comment from an ACC fan.  What a surprise.  How is it Virginia Tech had to leave the Big East to become one of the top 2 teams in a particular conference, or Boston College had to leave to win 5 conference games?

Yep. The ACC took the two best teams, another good one, and was lucky enough to get VT and BC while both teams were peaking. West Virginia is a good team, as is Louisville, but both would have at least 3 losses in any other major conference this year. WVU might be all right if they were in the Big XII.

 

As for WVU in a BCS bowl: I know they'll bring fans, but how can you not be underwhelmed by the program? Their last bowl win was the Music City in 2000, and they've gotten absolutely trounced by ACC teams (FSU, Maryland, Virginia) the last three years running.

[Guest Ether]

Actually, The ACC got the best one - Miami. Hell, that's only the one they really wanted. As far as Virginia Tech, check out their record against Pitt, WVU and Syracuse for their last 3 years in the Big East - a combined 2-7 - makes it hard for me to call them the second best team. Ditto for Boston College.

 

Bowl history shouldn't mean anything. If Oklahoma was doing what Texas is currently doing, should we hold their recent BCS title blowouts losses against them? WVU's biggest problem this year is that no one expected them to do much this year - it is a young team - so it was a very long climb into the top 25. If they started out in the top 25 to begin with, they would be ranked in the top 10 right now. As it is, you market them and their opponent in the weeks prior to the game to build excitement and hope for a good game. Teams better than them have had flops and teams worse than them have won games.

 

What I'd like to see is how everyone would react if Florida State loses to Florida, and then beats Miami in the ACC title game and thus takes the ACC birth as a four loss team.

[cabbageboy 0]

Ether, WVU's biggest problem is that deep down a lot of people realize that they basically screwed U of L (the bogus onside kick that even the Big East officials admitted was a screwjob). In other words, to the Big East it was preordained that one of the good old boy teams was going to win the league.

 

What's with U of L having to play in Morgantown whenever WVU has their best teams ever? Lost to them in 1993 36-34 in a great game, WVU went 11-1 that year.

 

The Big East better hope that USF doesn't upset WVU though. Having a team not anywhere even NEAR being ranked go to the BCS would likely start the serious talk of stripping the league of its BCS bid. I mean isn't USF ranked about #48? I seriously hope they lose to Cincy or UConn soon so I don't have to worry about the WVU game.

 

The sad thing is that I have the feeling U of L will end up being the highest ranked Big East team after the bowls are over. What'll we have to show for it? The fucking Gator Bowl...at best. Let USF and WVU enjoy it now, because next year they have to come to Louisville and will be mauled 65-14 with little fanfare.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

What I'd like to see is how everyone would react if Florida State loses to Florida, and then beats Miami in the ACC title game and thus takes the ACC birth as a four loss team.

Probably "well, it's FSU/Miami." I mean, they know what they were getting into with the championship game. Sometimes Kansas State's going to sneak up on OU. Everyone was grumpy when that 8-4 FSU team went up against Georgia in the Sugar Bowl a couple years ago, and you'd get the same thing. Of course, the ACC would still probably be sporting 4-5 top 20 teams by season's end, so the complaining would die down pretty quick-like.

[LooseCannon25 0]

Neither Oregon and UCLA not being in the Top 8 is bullshit

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Who would you drop out in favor of those teams?

UCLA definitely doesn't deserve to be in the Top 10 after getting trounced by a team that only had 2 wins at that point.

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I'd probably rank Oregon and UCLA higher than Ohio State and maybe even Virginia Tech. VT just looked pathetic in their one game against a real opponent, and Ohio State has been pretty average most of the season from what I've seen. Sure they played Texas close, but maybe Texas isn't really that good, either.

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You say VT looked pathetic against a real opponent? At leas they lost to the #3 team for the country. What the hell is your argument for UCLA, a team that got humiliated 52-14 by mediocre Arizona team?

[Guest Vitamin X]

Overconfidence, perhaps?

 

I'd have confidence in UCLA soundly beating Va. Tech if it came to be in a bowl game. It's really a shame the Bruins tanked it against Arizona, and in spectacular fashion as well. I guess it'll take UCLA beating USC (unlikely, but possible) to prove where they really are, but noone will take them as seriously as they should because they had an off day against Arizona.

[Art Sandusky 0]

I dunno man, UCLA's been pretty damn underwhelming to me.

 

A bright side of having a team that has to scrape and crawl to be eligible: You get your bowl early! Whoo!

[LooseCannon25 0]

Overconfidence, perhaps?

 

I'd have confidence in UCLA soundly beating Va. Tech if it came to be in a bowl game. It's really a shame the Bruins tanked it against Arizona, and in spectacular fashion as well. I guess it'll take UCLA beating USC (unlikely, but possible) to prove where they really are, but noone will take them as seriously as they should because they had an off day against Arizona.

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I'm actually rooting for UCLA against USC. If that would happen then Miami would have a shot at playing for the NAtional Title (If they run the table of course). Losing by 38 points to a bad team would be classified as much worse than having an "off night"

[Guest]

UCLA's problem is that when they're faced with a good defensive scheme they can be SHUT DOWN. Mike Stoops is a great defensive coach and Arizona just hasn't had the offense to do anything in the Pac-10.

[Damaramu 0]

UCLA's problem is that when they're faced with a good defensive scheme they can be SHUT DOWN.  Mike Stoops is a great defensive coach and Arizona just hasn't had the offense to do anything in the Pac-10.

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Let's not forget that Mike Stoops had a Top 5 defense seemingly every year that he coached at OU. And it obviously wasn't just the talent he had b/c they have more talent now and they are nowhere near as good on defense. Dude's got a good mind.

[Guest]

Exactly. Stoops doesn't have much talent to work with at Arizona, but they are very well coached and know how to play.

[Guest Vitamin X]

UCLA's problem is that when they're faced with a good defensive scheme they can be SHUT DOWN.  Mike Stoops is a great defensive coach and Arizona just hasn't had the offense to do anything in the Pac-10.

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Not too sure about that. If that's the case, then noone in the Pac-10 outside of Arizona (and maybe USC) has a good defensive scheme... which might be true. UCLA has just done a marvelous job every week on offense outside of that one game. Only time they've scored below 30 points besides the loss to Arizona was against Washington, where they won 21-17. Funny enough, that was the only game where the Bruins held their opponents to less than 20 points as well.

 

So, Arizona may have ruined our chances at playing a home national title game, but there's still a shot at taking USC out of their national title game hopes, and more importantly, knock them and their fans off their high horse. Although I don't think I'd much look forward to a Miami-Texas national championship.

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

They're an excellent team that USC will absolutely murder.

[Guest Ether]

Ether, WVU's biggest problem is that deep down a lot of people realize that they basically screwed U of L (the bogus onside kick that even the Big East officials admitted was a screwjob).  In other words, to the Big East it was preordained that one of the good old boy teams was going to win the league.

 

What's with U of L having to play in Morgantown whenever WVU has their best teams ever?  Lost to them in 1993 36-34 in a great game, WVU went 11-1 that year.

 

The Big East better hope that USF doesn't upset WVU though.  Having a team not anywhere even NEAR being ranked go to the BCS would likely start the serious talk of stripping the league of its BCS bid.  I mean isn't USF ranked about #48?  I seriously hope they lose to Cincy or UConn soon so I don't have to worry about the WVU game.

 

The sad thing is that I have the feeling U of L will end up being the highest ranked Big East team after the bowls are over.  What'll we have to show for it?  The fucking Gator Bowl...at best.  Let USF and WVU enjoy it now, because next year they have to come to Louisville and will be mauled 65-14 with little fanfare.

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I was driving home from Pittsburgh during the WVU-Louisville game so I'll have to go by what you said on that play, but to use the old saying, if you can't hold on to a 17 point lead in the 4th quarter, you don't deserve to win, especially when that team doesn't pass the ball well.

 

Theoretically, USF winning could help the Big East since if they manage to win their BCS game, along with WVU and Louisville winning theirs, it would give the Big East 3 ranked teams, which isn't bad for an 8-team league. It will not cause the Big East to be stripped of its automatic birth, though it will put pressure on Louisville, WVU, Pitt, and the others to step up and have big seasons in 2006 and 2007 when the evaluations start to take place.

 

I would not root for USF to lose to either Cincy or UConn because if they do, and WVU loses their final two games, your Big East representative is... Pitt.

 

As it is, USF has the speed to play with WVU and most other teams, but they are too turnover prone and too undisiplined I feel to pull the upset. I feel if WVU is going to lose a game, it will be to Pitt on Thanksgiving in the Backyard Brawl.

[SilverPhoenix 0]

I usually don't get invovled in the BCS talk, because I think the BCS is the worst thing to happen to sports in America since FOX and Designated Hitters, but I have to speak my peace on a few things.

 

1) Why the fuck is everyone so worred about South Florida winning the Big East? West Virginia will win that game 9 times out of 10 anyway (even in South Florida), not to mention that Big East Refs are as bad as SEC refs are in OOC games. It would be very easy for them to subtily make sure that South Florida doesn't even sniff 2 Touchdowns of WVU's score. Not a good policy, but it could happen.

 

2) For you Cabbageboy, you have my full respect, but honestly, stop bitching. Stop bitching about losing to South Florida. Stop bitching about losing to West Virginia. Stop bitching about how the Big East is going to lose its BCS bid every 5 minutes. Finally, stop bitching how pathetic the Big East is in Football.

 

Your Team has a bid to a 14 million dollar payday if you win the games you're supposed to, which is alot more than what you had in Conference USA. Or would rather be playing Tulane, SMU, ECU and UCF to go to the Liberty Bowl to take on the 6th Place SEC Team starting in 2006? Thank you.

 

Louisville should've known better. The Big East was not going to roll over and die for your team. Not with a BCS Bowl on the Line, and I hope everyone on the team has learned their lesson. Or next year is going to be worse for you if they have the same attitude.

 

And no, I don't hate Lousiville, far from it. Neither do I think the Big East is a great football Conference. It's the 6th Best Conference, which for now is enough.

 

As for you, I would suggest to get over the whole entire thing. Cause you know your team will probably finish 10 - 2 and in the Top 15 (If not the Top 10), and you will get a great ranking to start next year off with.

 

As for the Gator Bowl. It may be the fucking Gator Bowl, but it's better than the fucking Liberty Bowl.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

Also, it's probably going to be a Gator Bowl against Virginia Tech. That'll be a hell of a game.