The Dolphins And The Draft

[Guest Dolfan483]

Well i dont know how, but the Browns just whopped my Dolphins ass all over the field, but i just wanted to ask everyone who they think the Phins will get in the draft, or who should they Draft? I think if Texas QB Vince Young comes out we have to get him, other then that we should try and get a lineman like D'Brickshaw Fergeuson or Winston from Miami.

[CanadianChris 0]

You guys need a QB, like, NOW.

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

I would've kept AJ Feely to see what he could do w/ an actual run game behind him. Hell, he couldn't be doing much worse than Frerotte.

 

But yeah, QB needs to be priority #1. Who's going to be free agents after this season, QB-wise?

[Guest *KNK*]

You guys need a QB, like, NOW.

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So do another 6-10 teams in the NFL.

[LaParkaMarka 0]

They might be able to deal for Philip Rivers from San Diego...no way they're keeping both Brees and Rivers. Kurt Warner would probably be available but who wants him. They might be able to get a Josh McCown or Rex Grossman type of player. Maybe Chris Simms.

 

I'd say just get Slash. If you're going to suck at QB, do it in style.

[Failed Bridge 0]

I believe Steve McNair's contract is up after this year. Rex Grossman and Kyle Boller will both probably end up getting cut.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

The Bears would be real stupid in cutting Grossman. It's not like Orton is having a Brees circa 2004 campaign.

[Guest *KNK*]

I believe Steve McNair's contract is up after this year. Rex Grossman and Kyle Boller will both probably end up getting cut.

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Usually when someone asks for who are upcoming free agents, they want to know players that their team would want.

 

Rivers is likely the biggest QB on the "market" this post-season.

 

I said once and I'll say it again, A team should give Jon Kitna a chance. I mean if Gus, Boller, Maddox, Stewart are getting starts in the NFL... There's no reason Kitna shouldn't be a starter.

 

He proved to be a huge asset to grooming Carson Palmer, Palmer doesn't need Kitna anymore. A team should see this as a chance to trade for Kitna and have him carry the team while grooming some young future QB.

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I also think Rivers is New York bound, in case Pennington can't get his shit together by next season.

[Guest *KNK*]

I also think Rivers is New York bound, in case Pennington can't get his shit together by next season.

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The media would just love Rivers/Manning in the same town.

[Failed Bridge 0]

I believe Steve McNair's contract is up after this year. Rex Grossman and Kyle Boller will both probably end up getting cut.

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Usually when someone asks for who are upcoming free agents, they want to know players that their team would want.

 

Rivers is likely the biggest QB on the "market" this post-season.

And yet Rivers WON'T BE A FREE AGENT

 

Grossman is most likely a cap casualty. Kyle Orton was a good QB in college and will probably continue to progress real well.

 

Best QBs available in the upcoming draft are

 

1.) Matt Leinart (duh)

2.) Paul Pinegar

3.) Charlie Whitehurst

4.) DJ Shockley

 

Drew Staton and Omar Jacobs are elligible but who knows if they come out early. I know Vince Young, Marcus Vick, and Brady Quinn have all said they're staying for their senior years.

[Guest *KNK*]

I believe Steve McNair's contract is up after this year. Rex Grossman and Kyle Boller will both probably end up getting cut.

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Usually when someone asks for who are upcoming free agents, they want to know players that their team would want.

 

Rivers is likely the biggest QB on the "market" this post-season.

And yet Rivers WON'T BE A FREE AGENT

 

Grossman is most likely a cap casualty. Kyle Orton was a good QB in college and will probably continue to progress real well.

 

Best QBs available in the upcoming draft are

 

1.) Matt Leinart (duh)

2.) Paul Pinegar

3.) Charlie Whitehurst

4.) DJ Shockley

 

Drew Staton and Omar Jacobs are elligible but who knows if they come out early. I know Vince Young, Marcus Vick, and Brady Quinn have all said they're staying for their senior years.

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hence the quotes around the market. He's going to get traded, he's open season.

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Once again, the Bears are not cutting Grossman. They will keep him another year in case Orton proves to have a fluke season this year. Grossman has done nothing to lose his starting job, because he has gotten hurt every year. What I see happening is Orton goes in next year the starter and Grossman the backup. If Orton looks good next year, then yes Grossman will be cut loose for the 2007 season.

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still, you criticised me for answering a question about FA quarterbacks and then brought up a guy who's under contract with another team and has no chance of being a FA.

 

I could see Steve McNair go to the Jets and re-up with his old o-coordinator. Jets have too many needs to go trading what they would need to trade in order to get Rivers.

 

I shouldn't even bother responding to Choken One

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Once again, the Bears are not cutting Grossman. They will keep him another year in case Orton proves to have a fluke season this year. Grossman has done nothing to lose his starting job, because he has gotten hurt every year. What I see happening is Orton goes in next year the starter and Grossman the backup. If Orton looks good next year, then yes Grossman will be cut loose for the 2007 season.

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you know nothing of football. Really, I'm not being mean just completely honest. You seriously have no clue about the sport at all unless you're making yourself into a star QB in some videogame.

[Brett Favre 0]

I could see Steve McNair go to the Jets and re-up with his old o-coordinator. Jets have too many needs to go trading what they would need to trade in order to get Rivers.

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If there's one thing the Jets have learned with Pennington, and Testeverde, is no more QBs who can't stay on the field or are old AND can't stay on the field. It's going to be Pennington, Rivers (or Brees, whoever the Chargers decide not to keep), or whoever they draft.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Ok I believe you that you're not being mean. But I cannot really fathom how someone would think this of me... considering your mock draft and all... guess it's just difference in opinions.

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It would only realisticly be a one year thing with McNair if they can't draft Leinart.

 

Vince Young reminds me of a young McNair and if Heimedinger (or however its spelled) had him in the Jets system then I'd be a little afraid.

 

I don't think the Jets will cut Pennington this up-coming season either just because if they do then there's going to be a cap hit of around $9mill I believe.

 

If the Jets keep playing like they did today then you might get your wish of Reggie Bush though.

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Ok I believe you that you're not being mean. But I cannot really fathom how someone would think this of me... considering your mock draft and all... guess it's just difference in opinions.

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It was a good draft for the records through the middle of the season. It will be alot different by the end of the year. I did however give reasons for each and every pick. I didn't finish it though since I got the damned flu around pick 25.

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Ok but exactly how have I shown ineptitude in football knowledge? It IS likely the Jets goes after Phillip Rivers considering they were in talks with San Diego where they'd swap John Abraham for Rivers, so the interest is there. I know that the Bears probably can't keep both quarterbacks, but I don't see HOW they completely put their faith in a guy who has a 61.8 passer rating (and doesn't have the scrambling ability of Michael Vick to make up for it) while discarding their other QB that they deemed their future franchise QB and has done nothing to lose his job (because he has been injured).

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San Diego is going to be asking for at least a First Rounder, another first day pick in the 06 draft and a pick in the 07 draft. The Jets are looking at a top 10, possibly top 5 pick right now and probably aren't going to be willing to give up that pick and more for a QB that has proven nothing in the NFL. The Jets have far too many holes to fill due to both injury and aging players. Their secondary is still crap, the O-Line needs fixing, they still have no real TE threat, and Curtis Martin doesn't have a whole lot left in the tank. I think you'd see a team like Baltimore trade for Rivers before NY, because their only real hole is the QB. The defense is still one of the best, the O-Line is getting up there in age but still very good, and they have weapons surrounding the QB.

 

Rex Grossman's leg might be complete shit by now. He's making quite a bit for a player that can't stay on the field, and while Orton isn't Peyton Manning he is leading the team to victory. Upgrade that O-Line some, get another reciever to compliment Muhammed and a TE that has big play ability and you'll see Orton do better. He was the sleeper QB going into the draft this season and the Bears did a good job not being content with Grossman and his constant injuries when it came time to draft Orton.

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San Diego is going to be asking for at least a First Rounder, another first day pick in the 06 draft and a pick in the 07 draft. The Jets are looking at a top 10, possibly top 5 pick right now and probably aren't going to be willing to give up that pick and more for a QB that has proven nothing in the NFL. The Jets have far too many holes to fill due to both injury and aging players. Their secondary is still crap, the O-Line needs fixing, they still have no real TE threat, and Curtis Martin doesn't have a whole lot left in the tank. I think you'd see a team like Baltimore trade for Rivers before NY, because their only real hole is the QB. The defense is still one of the best, the O-Line is getting up there in age but still very good, and they have weapons surrounding the QB.

 

Rex Grossman's leg might be complete shit by now. He's making quite a bit for a player that can't stay on the field, and while Orton isn't Peyton Manning he is leading the team to victory. Upgrade that O-Line some, get another reciever to compliment Muhammed and a TE that has big play ability and you'll see Orton do better. He was the sleeper QB going into the draft this season and the Bears did a good job not being content with Grossman and his constant injuries when it came time to draft Orton.

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If San Diego asks for too much, then you'd be right in that the Jets don't make a play for Rivers. I do hope for the best for Orton, but as a Bears fan, you'd forgive me if I'm skeptical on his ability. Otherwise, you're on the mark here.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

Jay Cutler ought to be the #2 quarterback off the board, not Pinegar or Whitehurst.

[Failed Bridge 0]

fuck Cutler and fuck Vanderbilt

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

He's good. I don't know if he's first-round material but really no one but Leinart looks like they are at this point.

[Failed Bridge 0]

well ya, Leinart is the only first round worthy QB. After that I don't see any QBs worth taking (that we know are coming out for the draft) until round 3 with Whitehurst or Pinegar. Pinegar is a very solid QB and might be the Kyle Orton of the uo-coming draft.

 

Edwin, your thoughts on Omar Jacobs? Personally I think he's extremely over-hyped. Sure he has a strong arm and is fairly accurate but he doesn't go through his progressions well, doesn't read defenses all that great, and it appears as though he can't pick up a blitz to save his life. He's also not very mobile at all from what I've seen. He might be a poor man's Drew Bledsoe.

[Crimson Platypus 0]

If Miami doesn't draft a QB they are idiots. They don't have an NFL starter on the roster.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

Edwin, your thoughts on Omar Jacobs? Personally I think he's extremely over-hyped. Sure he has a strong arm and is fairly accurate but he doesn't go through his progressions well, doesn't read defenses all that great, and it appears as though he can't pick up a blitz to save his life. He's also not very mobile at all from what I've seen. He might be a poor man's Drew Bledsoe.

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I tend to agree that he's a bit overhyped, but it's hard to judge since I haven't had a chance to see much of Bowling Green this year, especially with him injured this past stretch of games. It's clear that Bowling Green is pretty close to dead in the water without him, though. His performance against Wisconsin was impressive--in the first half. In the second half they changed up their coverages and the criticisms you make--bad progressions, can't pick up a blitz--sunk him. I'm not sure how much of that is him, and how much of it is playing on a MAC team with mediocre surrounding talent. Then again, Roethlisberger and Leftwich didn't have all those problems, so who knows.

[Guest]

He's pretty good, but the spread offense that Bowling Green runs makes it difficult to judge how good he really is.

[Annabelle 0]

i wouldn't be surprised if grossman takes over the bears before the end of the year. while a midly stupid move, orton is not the reason for this teams success. not by a long shot.