This Week in College Football 12/1 - 12/3

[Guest]

That wasn't so much directed towards you, just everyone who doesn't get it in general.

 

It's right in front of your face. Can you handle the hype of that lore daily and comparisons of every current player at Notre Dame to Notre Dame's players from the past? Besides, when has ESPN suddenly become credible? Did it happen earlier today?

Edited December 2, 2005 by Kingofthe909

[cabbageboy 0]

I do agree to some extent that Notre Dame has been wildly overhyped this year. Quite honestly, they haven't really beaten anyone. The only really good win they have is over Michigan...and Michigan isn't too great this year.

 

Anyway, this weekend. I gotta agree with Dama on Colorado. They're likely going to get their asses kicked. Va Tech will probably roll FSU big time. UGA/LSU, I have no idea but I'll say Georgia since it's in Atlanta and LSU will run out of luck. UCLA might have a shot at USC if they score, score, score.

[Slayer 0]

The media can always reach a new level of verbal fellatio when it comes to Notre Dame.

Ding

 

It's good to know that a hatred of Notre Dame can unify all college football fans here at TSM.

[Slayer 0]

As for the possible "what if" scenarios (USC and/or Texas losing), Stewart Mandel wrote his feelings on the matter

[therealworldschampion 0]

ESPN.com's poll right now says "Who is the greatest college QB of all time?" with choices of Doug Flutie, Tommie Frazier, Matt Leinart, Peyton Manning, and Danny Wuerffel. Manning shouldn't be in that poll considering he's not even close to the top 5 college QBs of all time, with the factor that the other 4 on that list actually won big games, along with a few others (Ken Dorsey, Charlie Ward, Bernie Kosar) Manning was like the Chris Simms or Chris Rix of college football from 1994 to 1997.

Edited December 2, 2005 by therealworldschampion

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

The current hype for ND is worse than USC's. With USC, you're dealing with a "two" time straight national champions (because only AP recognizes the first one) and a 30+ game winner who's undefeated. With ND you have a team that's 9-2 (or 9-3, I forget which) and people screaming that Charlie Weis is a godsend... didn't Tyrone Willingham do this well his first year?

[Hogan Made Wrestling 0]

ESPN.com's poll right now says "Who is the greatest college QB of all time?" with choices of Doug Flutie, Tommie Frazier, Peyton Manning, and Danny Wuerffel. Manning shouldn't be in that poll considering he's not even close to the top 5 college QBs of all time, with the factor that the other 4 on that list actually won big games, along with a few others (Ken Dorsey, Charlie Ward, Bernie Kosar) Manning was like the Chris Simms or Chris Rix of college football from 1994 to 1997.

 

What, no Ron Powlus?

[cabbageboy 0]

Okay hang on. Did Manning never beat Florida? Yes. But he certainly was never anywhere close to being a bum like Simms or Rix. Simms and Rix actively made their teams worse by just being there

[therealworldschampion 0]

I'll agree, but neither got hyped to no end like Manning did at UT.

 

Simms was more like Manning, both could torch lesser teams, but struggled against top 10 competition, actually moreso in Simms' case.

[Damaramu 0]

Simms made a much more talented player sit on the bench...somehow.

[Damaramu 0]

Good god. ESPN just showed a list of all the celebrities that'll be at the USC/UCLA game. Who cares? Does that suddenly make them better b/c celebrities are in the stands? They do that shit with Lakers games too. One of the reasons I can't stand LA. I hate most movie stars and they're fickle and bandwagoner fans by nature.

If UCLA had won 33 straight games and the Clippers had won 3 straight championships recently then all the movie stars would be hanging out at those games and declaring themselves diehard fans of those teams.

Jack's the only true fan in that crowd.

[cabbageboy 0]

Dama, the Chris Simms push was the biggest example of nepotism I've ever seen in sports. If he wasn't Phil's boy there's no way in hell Mack Brown would have ever started his ass.

 

It's amusing that he's now on the Bucs with Brian Griese. It's like Team Nepotism.

[Darthtiki 0]

Usually, I would be rooting for the Bruins in ths game, however since their record puts them at a Triple H and the entire McMahon bloodline dying so Shelton Benjamin could become a 20 time WWE Champion chance of getting into a January 4th home game, I resort to my fanboy of all So-Cal teams save for the Lakers and cheer SC.

 

 

Indeed go 'noles

[2GOLD 0]

Dama, the Chris Simms push was the biggest example of nepotism I've ever seen in sports. If he wasn't Phil's boy there's no way in hell Mack Brown would have ever started his ass.

 

What I loved is when they would bench him, Applewhite would come in and get Texas back within six and then for no reason whatsoever Brown would put Applewhite on the bench to let Simms finish the comeback. Then Simms would come in, get sacked on first down then throw a pick with that either would get returned for a touchdown, give the opposing offensive great field position or just be the last chance Texas had.

 

Then you'd have Brown hyping up the great performance of Simms and saying he made only one bad mistake and he's truthfully a good quarterback while ignoring the existance of Applewhite.

[Bored 0]

The Liberty Bowl officials probably have murder in their eyes right about now.

[nogoodnick 0]

It was great when Applewhite played in the Holiday Bowl to close out his career and engineered a great comeback over UW.

[Hogan Made Wrestling 0]

Fresno State has jumped the shark.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

The Liberty Bowl officials probably have murder in their eyes right about now.

Seriously. UCF's gonna be the favorite at this rate. Looked smart 2 weeks ago. That was...2 weeks ago. They could have had any of the spillover ACC teams, or even a much more local MAC school like Northern Illinois.

[SilverPhoenix 0]

Okay? I just have one question.

 

Did anyone predict that BOTH Northern Illinois and Fresno State would lose this weekend? This has just been a fucked up 2 Days of College Football, and in less than 5 Hours we could see the BCS Nuclear Holocaust happen if Colorado, UCLA and Flordia State pull off the 3 Biggest Upsets of the young 21st Century. (I know, it's not bloody likely, but neither was Fresno losing its final 2 Games)

 

Hell, even if one of those Teams win, it could spell disaster waiting to happen. So I'm going to make a bold prediction, on which I am prepared to Eat Crow on.

 

 

Both/Either Texas and/or Virginia Tech will Lose. Book it.

 

And USC Vs. UCLA...I have a feeling that game will come down to the last play.

Edited December 3, 2005 by DragonLordKaiba

[Slayer 0]

Back to the Simms/Applewhite time period:

 

Did the sports media point out the whole "Applewhite is better than Simms but Simms plays more because of his name" thing, or did they kind of ignore it since Phil is a big name both as a former player and current media guy?

 

I don't remember which way it went.

[Bored 0]

The Conference USA title game is in Orlando so you'd know it would be a UCF partisan crowd but jeez it sounds like it's 99% UCF fans. Everytime Tulsa has made a play, including a touchdown just now, the crowd just goes silent.

[teke184 0]

The Conference USA title game is in Orlando so you'd know it would be a UCF partisan crowd but jeez it sounds like it's 99% UCF fans. Everytime Tulsa has made a play, including a touchdown just now, the crowd just goes silent.

 

If Katrina hadn't happened, I'd have suggested that the title game take place in the Superdome instead...

 

Considering that New Orleans is the mid-point of the East/West divide in CUSA (Tulane and Southern Miss, 1 hour away from each other, are in separate conferences), it would have been the perfect place.

Edited December 3, 2005 by teke184

[2GOLD 0]

Back to the Simms/Applewhite time period:

 

Did the sports media point out the whole "Applewhite is better than Simms but Simms plays more because of his name" thing, or did they kind of ignore it since Phil is a big name both as a former player and current media guy?

 

I don't remember which way it went.

 

It was split 50/50, just depended on whether or not they were friends with Simms. The ones who knew a damn about college football were always confused why Simms was starting over Applewhite since Applewhite always had to come in and save his sorry ass anyway.

 

No one really came out and said Simms was a dog but Corso came really close one time after Texas lost because Simms couldn't complete a pass to a wide open receiver with no pressure on him.

[Slayer 0]

The ones who knew a damn about college football were always confused why Simms was starting over Applewhite since Applewhite always had to come in and save his sorry ass anyway.

The prime example being the 2001 Big 12 title game, where Simms tossed three or four picks and they were down by 20 before Brown yanked his ass and Major led them within 2 before losing.

 

Good times, good times

[Slayer 0]

Shit, Colorado had a good drive going but Texas forced a fumble

[2GOLD 0]

This Big 12 game is a problem for me. On one hand, I want USC and Texas to lose today just to see what the heck would happen. On the other hand, I really don't want to see Colorado Rapists win the Big 12.

 

Decisions decisions.

[Slayer 0]

Aside from hating Texas and wanting to see them away from the title game, I also want them to lose so the BCS has another year of chaos

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Yet Simms is in the NFL while Major is.... where? And I was a Major Applewhite fan as anyone was. I think he did say he preferred being a coach than a player anyways.

[2GOLD 0]

Aside from hating Texas and wanting to see them away from the title game, I also want them to lose so the BCS has another year of chaos

 

I want them to lose and VT to win just so the ACC and Big 10 can get told they aren't going to the title game because we need to send in the team that lost in their conference title game.

 

But Texas is going to win, unless the Buffs defense each have a taser they are waiting to use on the entire starting offense and defense for the Horns.

14-0 goodnight.

[2GOLD 0]

Yet Simms is in the NFL while Major is.... where? And I was a Major Applewhite fan as anyone was. I think he did say he preferred being a coach than a player anyways.

 

coaching at Syracuse after he left NFL training camp, picking coaching over the NFL. Many felt like he would have been a damn fine NFL quarterback but he decided to go to Syracuse to coach instead.