naiwf 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2006 This dude is either the worst gimmick ever or someone who desperately needs a bullet in his cerebellum just to let him rest peacefully. A grown man who gets confidence from chatting with a stripper ONLINE and thinks he's doing something worthy of boasting has got to be the single most pathetic thing I've heard in years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2006 Right now Im reading This book and its pretty much a spot on description of my life. Im going to have to thank the person that gave me the link to it. Vewing Someone to Love as a Cure-all Love-shy males are often accused of thinking that if they only had a girl to love all of their problems would be solved. I believe that this sort of viewpoint deserves comment early on in this book Clinical psychologists and counselors often feel that the love-shy have not taken the time to properly assess the nature of their situation. My own work with the love-shy has convinced me that most shy people are, if anything, far foo introspective. They are constantly thinking and worrying about all conceivable facets of their situation and this represents a significant aspect of their difficulties. In essence, shy people think too much about the wrong things, and always with negative mental imagery and negative affirmations. Since they lack informal support (friendship) groups and since they are almost constantly alone, There is nothing in their social field to provide positive feedback and to distract their negative thought and imagery towards positive directions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 31, 2006 Guys, this friend of my brother's was at my house and she touched me on the shoulder and said bye when she was about to leave. Funny thing was, I didn't talk to her at all! OMG, she smiled at me too! That's 6 today! This really happened to me, and I didn't even care. Yes, she was cute, but it furthers my point. If it were WP, he'd need a change of shorts. Get a fucking life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2006 Marvin, all reading that book is going to do is let you justify your own pathetic behavior. Get rid of it and get into real life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted May 31, 2006 This dude is either the worst gimmick ever or someone who desperately needs a bullet in his cerebellum just to let him rest peacefully. A grown man who gets confidence from chatting with a stripper ONLINE and thinks he's doing something worthy of boasting has got to be the single most pathetic thing I've heard in years. You don't know the whole story and it's something I'm not going to talk about in detail if at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2006 Marvin, all reading that book is going to do is let you justify your own pathetic behavior. Get rid of it and get into real life. Im sorry, but this book has interested me because it is 100% what I am and its fascinating me.. During the past twenty years a tremendous number of books and magazine articles have been written about the so-called sexual revolution. However, virtually no attention at all has ever been accorded a class of people whom the sexual revolution has totally bypassed. This book will allow the reader to learn about a very fascinating segment of the population which can best be described as "love-shy." The love-shy include fully grown men in their late 30s and 40s who are not only as "virginal" as it is possible for anyone to be, but who can also be accurately described as less experienced in ordinary dating, courting, and elementary kissing than the typical, contemporary 12-year old youngster. The love-shy also include 19 to 24 year old university students who are similarly incapable of getting started with the opposite sex, quite in spite of their very strong desires for a close, loving heterosexual relationship. No, these are not homosexual men by a long shot. In fact, this book is devoted exclusively to men with very strong and very normal heterosexual urges. Indeed, it is devoted to men who would like nothing better than to be able to marry and to have children, but who are not moving towards these goals because of severe bashfulness, shyness and social timidity. Love-shyness is a life-crippling condition. Victims of love-shyness cannot marry. They cannot have children, and they cannot participate in the normal adolescent and young adult activities of dating and courtship. The love-shy are often misperceived as "homosexual." And they are often made to pay the price for being "homosexual" without being accorded access to the rewards that go with a homosexual identity. Because love-shy people are not homosexual they cannot join up with any of the many "gay rights" organizations or homosexual support groups. hmm.. I had already been aware of the fact that love-shy people seldom have telephones. In fact, severely love-shy people often find it too threatening to use a telephone even for the making of impersonal, business contacts. Since love-shy men often choose to write letters in situations wherein most people would simply opt to make a telephone call, I know this was like, 20 years ago..but gee whiz.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted May 31, 2006 Right now Im reading This book and its pretty much a spot on description of my life. Im going to have to thank the person that gave me the link to it. Vewing Someone to Love as a Cure-all Love-shy males are often accused of thinking that if they only had a girl to love all of their problems would be solved. I believe that this sort of viewpoint deserves comment early on in this book Clinical psychologists and counselors often feel that the love-shy have not taken the time to properly assess the nature of their situation. My own work with the love-shy has convinced me that most shy people are, if anything, far foo introspective. They are constantly thinking and worrying about all conceivable facets of their situation and this represents a significant aspect of their difficulties. In essence, shy people think too much about the wrong things, and always with negative mental imagery and negative affirmations. Since they lack informal support (friendship) groups and since they are almost constantly alone, There is nothing in their social field to provide positive feedback and to distract their negative thought and imagery towards positive directions. A lot of this is true and it's been something I've been fighting for a long time. I have improved myself some in this regard. I was bad for this when I was a kid - the negative assement situation thing. Thinking about all conceivable facets of the situation and being introspective definitely does have its advantages though. But at least I'm not alone. I've got my friends and everyone here at smartmarks. Hawk34, you should be giving me support instead of negative mental imagery and negative affirmations. I hope you're realising what you're doing to me here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted May 31, 2006 Marvin, all reading that book is going to do is let you justify your own pathetic behavior. Get rid of it and get into real life. Im sorry, but this book has interested me because it is 100% what I am and its fascinating me.. During the past twenty years a tremendous number of books and magazine articles have been written about the so-called sexual revolution. However, virtually no attention at all has ever been accorded a class of people whom the sexual revolution has totally bypassed. This book will allow the reader to learn about a very fascinating segment of the population which can best be described as "love-shy." The love-shy include fully grown men in their late 30s and 40s who are not only as "virginal" as it is possible for anyone to be, but who can also be accurately described as less experienced in ordinary dating, courting, and elementary kissing than the typical, contemporary 12-year old youngster. The love-shy also include 19 to 24 year old university students who are similarly incapable of getting started with the opposite sex, quite in spite of their very strong desires for a close, loving heterosexual relationship. No, these are not homosexual men by a long shot. In fact, this book is devoted exclusively to men with very strong and very normal heterosexual urges. Indeed, it is devoted to men who would like nothing better than to be able to marry and to have children, but who are not moving towards these goals because of severe bashfulness, shyness and social timidity. Love-shyness is a life-crippling condition. Victims of love-shyness cannot marry. They cannot have children, and they cannot participate in the normal adolescent and young adult activities of dating and courtship. The love-shy are often misperceived as "homosexual." And they are often made to pay the price for being "homosexual" without being accorded access to the rewards that go with a homosexual identity. Because love-shy people are not homosexual they cannot join up with any of the many "gay rights" organizations or homosexual support groups. Must read. As far as I know I have never been mistaken for being percieved as a homosexual. How much does this book cost? I don't quite understand what they're getting at with the last sentence there however. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 31, 2006 love-shy I'm sorry, but that just seems like a nice way of calling you a pussy. "Self-Help" books do nothing but tear you down and keep you from being able to be built back up. A grown man who gets confidence from chatting with a stripper ONLINE and thinks he's doing something worthy of boasting has got to be the single most pathetic thing I've heard in years. My friend is 325 pounds. He went to the strip club the other night (I was going to go, but backed out. I've been before and didn't want to waste my time.) and got a phone number from a stripper. He is 325 POUNDS. It's not a big deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted May 31, 2006 I had already been aware of the fact that love-shy people seldom have telephones. In fact, severely love-shy people often find it too threatening to use a telephone even for the making of impersonal, business contacts. Since love-shy men often choose to write letters in situations wherein most people would simply opt to make a telephone call, I have experienced this one too. Oddly enough, I am better at calling for other people. I think it might have something to do with my depression. I am better at this now but with a completely new contact I'll be flustered. Now just switch letters with the internet. I'm fearless on here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2006 Marvin, all reading that book is going to do is let you justify your own pathetic behavior. Get rid of it and get into real life. Im sorry, but this book has interested me because it is 100% what I am and its fascinating me.. During the past twenty years a tremendous number of books and magazine articles have been written about the so-called sexual revolution. However, virtually no attention at all has ever been accorded a class of people whom the sexual revolution has totally bypassed. This book will allow the reader to learn about a very fascinating segment of the population which can best be described as "love-shy." The love-shy include fully grown men in their late 30s and 40s who are not only as "virginal" as it is possible for anyone to be, but who can also be accurately described as less experienced in ordinary dating, courting, and elementary kissing than the typical, contemporary 12-year old youngster. The love-shy also include 19 to 24 year old university students who are similarly incapable of getting started with the opposite sex, quite in spite of their very strong desires for a close, loving heterosexual relationship. No, these are not homosexual men by a long shot. In fact, this book is devoted exclusively to men with very strong and very normal heterosexual urges. Indeed, it is devoted to men who would like nothing better than to be able to marry and to have children, but who are not moving towards these goals because of severe bashfulness, shyness and social timidity. Love-shyness is a life-crippling condition. Victims of love-shyness cannot marry. They cannot have children, and they cannot participate in the normal adolescent and young adult activities of dating and courtship. The love-shy are often misperceived as "homosexual." And they are often made to pay the price for being "homosexual" without being accorded access to the rewards that go with a homosexual identity. Because love-shy people are not homosexual they cannot join up with any of the many "gay rights" organizations or homosexual support groups. Must read. As far as I know I have never been mistaken for being percieved as a homosexual. How much does this book cost? I don't quite understand what they're getting at with the last sentence there however. Its out of print, so the author allowed it to be made into a digital format. Its free. I already mentioned on here that the only girl I've ever hugged in my life was back when I was either like 12 in middle school, and she up and left over christmas break that year. Well: The paradox is that love-shy men become romantically interested in the opposite sex significantly earlier in life than do non-shy men. And the more severely love-shy a man is, the earlier in life he is likely to have become deeply interested in the other gender from a romantic/ esthetic standpoint. For example, 87 percent of the older love-shy men who were studied for this research indicated that prior to the age of 13, they had experienced feelings of loneliness for the close, emotionally meaningful companionship of an opposite-sexed age-mate. Similarly, 73 percent of the younger love-shys had experienced such feelings prior to their 13th birthday, whereas none of the 200 self-confident non-shy men had ever experienced such feelings prior to their 13th birthday. Plus theres a whole section that I haven't gotten to about why almost all love shy men turn to dating services (which, again 20 years ago didn't count for todays online versions, but still..). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naiwf 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2006 Must read. As far as I know I have never been mistaken for being percieved as a homosexual. How much does this book cost? I don't quite understand what they're getting at with the last sentence there however. If it helps, I think you're a closet homosexual which is why you're so concerned with your physique and can't talk to women about simple things. It's also why you've never actively tried to do anything physical/sexual with one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2006 Fuck you faggots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 31, 2006 Man, why is it that when people always accuse someone else of being gay, they always have to be as mean and insulting about it as possible. "That guy's a faggot!" "He's a fucking cocksucking douche, he just doesn't know it yet." "Pff, he's clearly a homo" etc. It's 2006 guys. Tsk tsk tsk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2006 Man, why is it that when people always accuse someone else of being gay, they always have to be as mean and insulting about it as possible. "That guy's a faggot!" "He's a fucking cocksucking douche, he just doesn't know it yet." "Pff, he's clearly a homo" etc. It's 2006 guys. Tsk tsk tsk Sorry, after all that was said in this thread, that was about the most adequate reply I could come up with. I knew being tolerant would bite me in the ass someday. Goddamnit.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 31, 2006 It's ok. Everyone has their time where they need to let loose. People should take note of that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted May 31, 2006 I'll have to read all of this tomorrow. Right now my back's trembling from doing too many deadlifts. QUOTE The paradox is that love-shy men become romantically interested in the opposite sex significantly earlier in life than do non-shy men. And the more severely love-shy a man is, the earlier in life he is likely to have become deeply interested in the other gender from a romantic/ esthetic standpoint. For example, 87 percent of the older love-shy men who were studied for this research indicated that prior to the age of 13, they had experienced feelings of loneliness for the close, emotionally meaningful companionship of an opposite-sexed age-mate. Similarly, 73 percent of the younger love-shys had experienced such feelings prior to their 13th birthday, whereas none of the 200 self-confident non-shy men had ever experienced such feelings prior to their 13th birthday. Hmm, I'm not quite too sure what to say about this. If it helps, I think you're a closet homosexual which is why you're so concerned with your physique and can't talk to women about simple things. It's also why you've never actively tried to do anything physical/sexual with one. All guys with perhaps the exception of homosexuals (because they have more female traits) want a more muscular physique and if they say they don't odds are they're lying straight through their teeth. It's not my fault I have a passion for it. Your setence makes no sense. It's actually the hetrosexual males who want the better built body. It was just something I wanted to do since I was a little kid (see picture of myself that I posted 65 times in a different thread) Quite frankly, I think you're just jealous of my physique and are lashing out at me because of that inferiority complex. Uhh buddy, aren't you reading the thread? The reason why I've never actively tried to do anything physical/sexual with a woman (well besides my strip club experience) is because I'm LOVE SHY. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2006 The fantasies enjoyed by these men typically entailed being warmly loved by very feminine, nurturant, non-assertive but liberal-minded women with long hair, beautiful faces, and very little or no make-up. They tended to fantasize women with a rather delicate, ethereal beauty, and with a gentleness and vulnerability that is not realistically likely to be found in today's world. But curiously, most of the younger love-shy men seemed to maintain a sense of optimism that they could or would somehow one day magically be able to win such a specimen without taking any positive steps on their own initiative. Their fantasies and daydreams revolved almost exclusively around the imagery of already having such a beautiful woman. Virtually none of the shy men ever spent any time visualizing themselves taking positive steps to introduce themselves or to otherwise allow themselves to become acquainted with available and accessible women. and there you go. Im just skimming at the point, about halfway through the almost 400 pages, but I havent seen much that describes a love shy male that doesn't describe me..the biggest thing that doesn't is that love shy males dont tend to follow/watch or play sports..which is definitely not me. Other than that..bullseye.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted May 31, 2006 The fantasies enjoyed by these men typically entailed being warmly loved by very feminine, nurturant, non-assertive but liberal-minded women with long hair, beautiful faces, and very little or no make-up. They tended to fantasize women with a rather delicate, ethereal beauty, and with a gentleness and vulnerability that is not realistically likely to be found in today's world. But curiously, most of the younger love-shy men seemed to maintain a sense of optimism that they could or would somehow one day magically be able to win such a specimen without taking any positive steps on their own initiative. Their fantasies and daydreams revolved almost exclusively around the imagery of already having such a beautiful woman. Virtually none of the shy men ever spent any time visualizing themselves taking positive steps to introduce themselves or to otherwise allow themselves to become acquainted with available and accessible women. and there you go. Im just skimming at the point, about halfway through the almost 400 pages, but I havent seen much that describes a love shy male that doesn't describe me..the biggest thing that doesn't is that love shy males dont tend to follow/watch or play sports..which is definitely not me. Other than that..bullseye.. Yeah, I like the sports too. Except football because it's boring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naiwf 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2006 All guys with perhaps the exception of homosexuals (because they have more female traits) want a more muscular physique and if they say they don't odds are they're lying straight through their teeth. It's not my fault I have a passion for it. Your setence makes no sense. It's actually the hetrosexual males who want the better built body. It was just something I wanted to do since I was a little kid (see picture of myself that I posted 65 times in a different thread) Quite frankly, I think you're just jealous of my physique and are lashing out at me because of that inferiority complex. Uhh buddy, aren't you reading the thread? The reason why I've never actively tried to do anything physical/sexual with a woman (well besides my strip club experience) is because I'm LOVE SHY. Riiiiiiiight, that's why most gay guys are very health conscious and try to have no body fat. It's because they're trying to look more feminine. My bad. Not only do you not understand women, you can't even fathom that gay men are not all dainty types. I'd wager that most guys that go to the gym religiously are not straight, and you'd know that if you had any connection to the real world. I'm not jealous of you because you're a fucking loser. I can always lift weights, which I chose not to do because I have an actual life, while you however will always be a loser. In situations like that the person who can do nothing to change their situation is the one who is inferior. More importantly, you didn't even know anything about the phrase love shy until an hour or so ago. This thread on the other hand has been going on for what seems like an eternity. You're the guy that was getting off on the concept of someone else going out on a date and planning your schedule accordingly to read about his exploits. Again, you're a fucking loser. And you're probably going to be very surprised when you finally admit that you might just be gay because straight men don't count how many times random chicks smile at them. That is all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 31, 2006 It's actually the hetrosexual males who want the better built body. It was just something I wanted to do since I was a little kid (see picture of myself that I posted 65 times in a different thread) Quite frankly, I think you're just jealous of my physique and are lashing out at me because of that inferiority complex. I'm telling you guys, this is subliminal_animal. I won't say it again, because I don't want to sound repetitive. My cousin's gay and he wants to get a better physique (the way I had this worded before I changed it wasn't a good way to explain it). I don't care too much about my body and I weigh 185 pounds. I'm comfortable with myself and don't lift weights anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2006 All guys with perhaps the exception of homosexuals (because they have more female traits) want a more muscular physique and if they say they don't odds are they're lying straight through their teeth. It's not my fault I have a passion for it. Your setence makes no sense. It's actually the hetrosexual males who want the better built body. It was just something I wanted to do since I was a little kid (see picture of myself that I posted 65 times in a different thread) Quite frankly, I think you're just jealous of my physique and are lashing out at me because of that inferiority complex. Uhh buddy, aren't you reading the thread? The reason why I've never actively tried to do anything physical/sexual with a woman (well besides my strip club experience) is because I'm LOVE SHY. Riiiiiiiight, that's why most gay guys are very health conscious and try to have no body fat. It's because they're trying to look more feminine. My bad. Not only do you not understand women, you can't even fathom that gay men are not all dainty types. I'd wager that most guys that go to the gym religiously are not straight, and you'd know that if you had any connection to the real world. I'm not jealous of you because you're a fucking loser. I can always lift weights, which I chose not to do because I have an actual life, while you however will always be a loser. In situations like that the person who can do nothing to change their situation is the one who is inferior. More importantly, you didn't even know anything about the phrase love shy until an hour or so ago. This thread on the other hand has been going on for what seems like an eternity. You're the guy that was getting off on the concept of someone else going out on a date and planning your schedule accordingly to read about his exploits. Again, you're a fucking loser. And you're probably going to be very surprised when you finally admit that you might just be gay because straight men don't count how many times random chicks smile at them. That is all. I can count never, its easy. I dont even remember the last time a girl smiled at me. sad but true. And really..Im sorry I've given WP more ammo with the whole Love shy thing..really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2006 Read the book, I guess, if it's fascinating you. You sound like you need something fascinating. All you're going to do is come out of it thinking "see, it's okay to be like this--LOTS of people are like this." But it's not okay. You just need to be happy with whatever you're doing. If never talking to women makes you happy, then be that way, but jesus christ, don't call yourself "love-shy" and mope around, because you're even wasting your own time if that's the case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted May 31, 2006 Riiiiiiiight, that's why most gay guys are very health conscious and try to have no body fat Well actually yeah. Although guys don't like to have too much bodyfat it's not the number one concern for them. Muscle is. Less bodyfat is more of a woman thing which as you in your own words say "most gay guys are very health concious and try to have no bodyfat" So that's more of a feminine trait. you can't even fathom that gay men are not all dainty types Wrong I'm not jealous of you because you're a fucking loser. I can always lift weights, which I chose not to do because I have an actual life, while you however will always be a loser. In situations like that the person who can do nothing to change their situation is the one who is inferior. I'm not a loser. So people who choose to lift weights don't have an actual life? Maybe if you could think straight you'd realise that lifting weights improves the quality of one's life in several ways. Yeah and I'm calling you out. Though I don't know for sure I say you just lack the motivation and are too lazy to lift weights. To do something that is every man's natural instinct. Because of your knowledge of this it "drives you crazy" and in a desperate attempt to even fool yourself that you don't need weights you lash out at someone who can do what you can't. Yes, I am a loser because I can do something productive with my time that most people make excuses not to do or just plain quit. Your excuse here may be the most laughable one I've ever heard or read. More importantly, you didn't even know anything about the phrase love shy until an hour or so ago. So what? I knew the concept and I'm familiar with the thought process behind it. Yay, I didn't know the specific term of something. Uh, what was the point of you writing that? A lame insult? Let me ask you this -- Did you know what the term was an hour ago? Not that it matters. You're the guy that was getting off on the concept of someone else going out on a date and planning your schedule accordingly to read about his exploits. Again, you're a fucking loser. Uh,oh, spaghettio. Oooh cursing. Notice how I don't have to emphasise my points by cursing but you do. And you're probably going to be very surprised when you finally admit that you might just be gay because straight men don't count how many times random chicks smile at them. That is all. No because straight men neeeeever and I mean eeeever notice when a female smiles at them. Calling me gay doesn't insult me by the way but it does make you once again inferior to me because you are simply showing that you are not very smart. See, people are born the way they are. They don't magically change and than wake up one day proclaiming "I am now straight" or "I am now gay (gay as in sexual choice and not the old term which meant happy). Next time, if you want to make some points at least make some that are halfway sensible. Please, I'm begging you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angle-plex 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2006 I don't like how Marvin is trying to define himself by reading his book, as if he is finding the "true him". There is no true you. You are not a shy-guy or whatever. You may have ACTED like one in the past, but that doesn't mean you ARE one. If you fail a math test....does that mean you are a failure? Or did you just fail the test? Psychologically speaking, the EGO needs to define everything, including ourselves, when in fact everyone in nothing. You aren't anything, you only act in certain ways, and you can act however you WANT to in the future, regardless of how you acted in the past. And despite this fag-fest, I can always lift weights, which I chose not to do because I have an actual life.....plz. I lift three or four times a week, got to school,work and have a social life. Hey...how many hours a day are you watching TV or surfing the net, naiwf? I'm kinda drunk but I think this makes sense if you read it a couple of times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2006 Holy fuck, anyone who has hit that shy part in their lifes know's that most of the time know's it's when you worry too much about all these things that are going to fuck up... when in reality the shit won't hit the fans as dramatically as you're thinking. I was an outgoing kid throughout most of my life, but once I got into high school I became a shy person, for maybe like half the school year... then I realized my fucking problem and stopped myself from thinking in that manner. Seriously, you know your problem... do something about, don't go to some bullshit books when you know what it takes to fix it. I don't care if you look like fucking shit, or you think you do... get some god damn spine and do something about it. No more woe is me crap... look at those two things dangling from the bottom of your sac... those are called balls... start using them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUTT 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2006 This dude is either the worst gimmick ever or someone who desperately needs a bullet in his cerebellum just to let him rest peacefully. A grown man who gets confidence from chatting with a stripper ONLINE and thinks he's doing something worthy of boasting has got to be the single most pathetic thing I've heard in years. You don't know the whole story and it's something I'm not going to talk about in detail if at all. Yet you were willing to share all the details of how you fucked a weight bench? Priority check, bro. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JangoFett4Hire 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2006 If you guys want to read a book that might help you with the ladies, try Neil Strauss' The Game. Some helpful tips in there, bro. But, you probably have no interest in being a ladies' man, do you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted May 31, 2006 If you guys want to read a book that might help you with the ladies, try Neil Strauss' The Game. Some helpful tips in there, bro. But, you probably have no interest in being a ladies' man, do you? I want to read the Love Shy book out of curiosity and an intellectual sake since it's something I live through. If "The Game" is available online for free (because I am BROKE) than I might give that a glimpse too. Is it basically a confidence will win you ladies type of book? Personally speaking, of course I have interest in being a ladies' man. I have an extreme interest in it. It's just that I've got to fight my love shyness all the time. I don't think anyone here has any type of clue on how amazingly difficult that actually is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZGangsta 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2006 I can always lift weights, which I chose not to do because I have an actual life, while you however will always be a loser. That's a pretty fucking stupid statement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites