Guest Montresor Report post Posted July 9, 2006 Orton + charisma + 40 IQ points = Ted Bundy. Under no circumstances would I want my daughter in the same state, much less the same room, as this douchebag. Hogan's such a card; Hulkamania will, indeed, live forever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericho2000Mark 0 Report post Posted July 9, 2006 The Spirit Squad gimmick itself isn't the problem... it's them being in constant main events, beating up noted stars 5-on-1. That does nothing to help any of the Squad members, like Randy said. It doesn't help when only Doane shows any sign of balls(taking the sledgehammer from HHH). They don't even come off equally. It's like the NWO B-Team but with Nash shoved into it and everyone knows Nash is miles ahead of Norton and Stevie Ray. Screw that. Norton >>>>>>> Nash (and I'm not that hard on Nash because when he's not being lazy he can be involved in some great wrestling matches). Norton is underrated. One of the best big man presences ever and he's been involved in a tonne of fun matches. He's even going to make my top 100 wrestler of all time list. That's how highly I think of him. Put yourself in the position of the average fan for once and stop analyzing things from a smark's point of view. Kevin Nash is a hell of a lot more credible than WCW jobber Scott Norton and that was the analogy. This is like comparing Bobby Lashley to Paul London, London may be better but Lashley is more credible. Scott Norton's only good work was in Japan because he was essentially used as a jobber in WCW. So, no "screw that" because Norton had no credibility at this point while Nash had tons of it because he was recently World Champion and never actually even lost the belt (He practically gave it to Hogan). Workrate isn't everything son. Working in Japan always adds credibility points, to some. Shawn Michaels never did a tour of Japan with a Japanese promotion, does that make him any less of a worker? I can name off A LOT of good workers that never toured with a Japanese company, Bret Hart, Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Kurt Angle, The Rock and there are many others. Does this make them any less credible? And anyway, I was talking about credibility to the average fan. The average fans knows nothing about puro so wrestling to Japan to them is like saying that they wrestled in North Dakota or Montana. Sure, it's a far off place, but why should they care? Bret did several tours of Japan when we was with Stampede. Shawn Michaels, Triple H and Angle are all overrated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted July 10, 2006 It's a good interview, but I think some of you are making far too much out of some of the stuff that he said. I may agree with some of what he said, but I don't like him any more than I did before. I'm pretty sure that most of his matches will bore me to death just like they did before I heard this interview. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mfn 0 Report post Posted July 10, 2006 The WWE hasn't had a really solid "superstar" in a while, atleast not one that I want to tune every week to see. Randy Orton makes me want to turn off the TV. I think he's awful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Chaos 0 Report post Posted July 10, 2006 The WWE hasn't had a really solid "superstar" in a while, atleast not one that I want to tune every week to see. Randy Orton makes me want to turn off the TV. I think he's awful. C'mon. This is the same company that has Mark Henry and Great Khali on tv every week. Sometimes it just seems that a lot of people hate Orton cause its the cool thing to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted July 10, 2006 I'm to the point where I'd rather watch Mark Henry on TV than Randy Orton. Truth be told, I've been to that point for a while now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mfn 0 Report post Posted July 10, 2006 The WWE hasn't had a really solid "superstar" in a while, atleast not one that I want to tune every week to see. Randy Orton makes me want to turn off the TV. I think he's awful. C'mon. This is the same company that has Mark Henry and Great Khali on tv every week. Sometimes it just seems that a lot of people hate Orton cause its the cool thing to do. I don't watch Smackdown at all. That's why I liked it when Orton was on Smackdown, because I wouldn't have to see him on RAW. I'm not hating on him because it's the cool thing to do, I've hated him and Cena since they made their debut. I hate Batista just as much as I hate Cena and Orton. Infact, I just realized that the only reason why I watch wrestling now is to see how bad it can possibly get. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest burth179 Report post Posted July 10, 2006 The Spirit Squad gimmick itself isn't the problem... it's them being in constant main events, beating up noted stars 5-on-1. That does nothing to help any of the Squad members, like Randy said. It doesn't help when only Doane shows any sign of balls(taking the sledgehammer from HHH). They don't even come off equally. It's like the NWO B-Team but with Nash shoved into it and everyone knows Nash is miles ahead of Norton and Stevie Ray. Screw that. Norton >>>>>>> Nash (and I'm not that hard on Nash because when he's not being lazy he can be involved in some great wrestling matches). Norton is underrated. One of the best big man presences ever and he's been involved in a tonne of fun matches. He's even going to make my top 100 wrestler of all time list. That's how highly I think of him. Put yourself in the position of the average fan for once and stop analyzing things from a smark's point of view. Kevin Nash is a hell of a lot more credible than WCW jobber Scott Norton and that was the analogy. This is like comparing Bobby Lashley to Paul London, London may be better but Lashley is more credible. Scott Norton's only good work was in Japan because he was essentially used as a jobber in WCW. So, no "screw that" because Norton had no credibility at this point while Nash had tons of it because he was recently World Champion and never actually even lost the belt (He practically gave it to Hogan). Workrate isn't everything son. Working in Japan always adds credibility points, to some. Shawn Michaels never did a tour of Japan with a Japanese promotion, does that make him any less of a worker? I can name off A LOT of good workers that never toured with a Japanese company, Bret Hart, Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Kurt Angle, The Rock and there are many others. Does this make them any less credible? And anyway, I was talking about credibility to the average fan. The average fans knows nothing about puro so wrestling to Japan to them is like saying that they wrestled in North Dakota or Montana. Sure, it's a far off place, but why should they care? Bret did several tours of Japan when we was with Stampede. Shawn Michaels, Triple H and Angle are all overrated. Michaels did ref a match in FMW between Hayabusa and Mr. Gannosuke, does that count? I saw him listed in the credits on my FMW DVD, then looked it up and found out that he did ref their one time.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites