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Fair enough...athough that would only scratch about 5 of those albums off the list meaning that one good mainstream hip hop album has come out a month...still pretty good, but cool.

 

I would like to say though for the record to everyone in this thread that said otherwise, Big Boi is going to have to go down as the single most underrated rapper ever. Pas big daddy kane and Kool G Rap. Seriously, I don't think people even listen to what he is saying most of the time because they are so busy waiting to hear Andre's verse. But they are both amazing. Andre's has more charisma and a little better flow, but Big Bois word play is simply amazing.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

Listened to Idlewild a few times so far. It's the only Outkast album that hasn't sunk into my brain immediately on first listen. I'll need to drive around with it a few times to really get a feel for it. A few songs are great, and I think the approach to the instrumentals/production/whatever you want to call Outkast backing tracks are incredibly interesting, if not completely head-bobbingly awesome. It's the most chill, relaxing rap album I've heard in a while, which I like very much, and which also leads me to believe that it'll be a slow burner and seep in gradually. "Morris Brown" and "The Train" are my big winners so far, as good as anything they've done.

[Guest DRH 502]

e40 - my ghetto report card

t.i. - king

ghostface - fishscale

rick ross - port of miami

rhymefest - blue collar

outkast - idlewild

cam'rom - killa season

j dilla - donuts (not really rap, i guess) ->the shining wasn't too bad, either

spankrock - yoyoyoyoyo

lupe fiasco - food & liquor

 

The only album listed worth a fuck is the Lupe and Ghostface. Killa Season was okay, the rest is typical bullshit I would assume you'd listen to.

 

Fuckin T.I....go home.

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

e40 - my ghetto report card

t.i. - king

ghostface - fishscale

rick ross - port of miami

rhymefest - blue collar

outkast - idlewild

cam'rom - killa season

j dilla - donuts (not really rap, i guess) ->the shining wasn't too bad, either

spankrock - yoyoyoyoyo

lupe fiasco - food & liquor

 

The only album listed worth a fuck is the Lupe and Ghostface. Killa Season was okay, the rest is typical bullshit I would assume you'd listen to.

 

Fuckin T.I....go home.

 

Don't even bother, Banky always thinks his opinion is right and everyone dissagrees with him is always wrong and their opinion is "irrevelent".

[Ripper 0]

Like Banky or not, TI is the fucking truth.

 

Plus Rhymefest and The Outkast album...I don't see how you would call either one of those bullshit. VERY good albums in my opinion.

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

Like Banky or not, TI is the fucking truth.

 

Maybe in your opinion(but then again your from ATL), but not in my mind.

 

He is just going to be another rapper in a few years. He was good in his Trap Muzik days, and after that he started to go more popish-rap, and trying to jack Jay Z's style. Except he doesn't have the talent to impress the hip hop heads like Jay Z did with his mainstream singles. Lil Wayne is a much better rapper then him IMO, and The Carter 1 & 2 are better then Urban Legend, The King, and arguably Trap Muzik(IMO those were better then Trap Muzik), and I perfer Chamillionaire over T.I., even though I got sick of "Ridin" fast, overall The Sound of Revenge as a very solid album. And although I dislike G-Unit, I still would listen to Young Buck(who is a very good rapper, too bad he's with G-Unit). Hell I can list atleast 10 rappers from the South, I'd rather listen to over T.I.!

 

The Game, Papoose(who just signed a 1.5 million dollar contract last week), Saigon, Bishop Lamont, JR Writer, The Clipse, Serious Jones, Freeway, and few others are the future of rap. T.I. can stay biggin up wack ass rappers like Young Dro.

[PUT THAT DICK IN MY MOUTH! 0]

Maybe in your opinion(but then again your from ATL), but not in my mind.

 

He is just going to be another rapper in a few years. He was good in his Trap Muzik days, and after that he started to go more popish-rap, and trying to jack Jay Z's style. Except he doesn't have the talent to impress the hip hop heads like Jay Z did with his mainstream singles. Lil Wayne is a much better rapper then him IMO, and The Carter 1 & 2 are better then Urban Legend, The King, and arguably Trap Muzik(IMO those were better then Trap Muzik), and I perfer Chamillionaire over T.I., even though I got sick of "Ridin" fast, overall The Sound of Revenge as a very solid album. And although I dislike G-Unit, I still would listen to Young Buck(who is a very good rapper, too bad he's with G-Unit). Hell I can list atleast 10 rappers from the South, I'd rather listen to over T.I.!

 

The Game, Papoose(who just signed a 1.5 million dollar contract last week), Saigon, Bishop Lamont, JR Writer, The Clipse, Serious Jones, Freeway, and few others are the future of rap. T.I. can stay biggin up wack ass rappers like Young Dro.

 

So what you're saying is that because you don't like him T.I. is going to be a has-been in two years while a DipSet also-ran like JR Writer is going to be Running the Rap Game.

 

okay.

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

Maybe in your opinion(but then again your from ATL), but not in my mind.

 

He is just going to be another rapper in a few years. He was good in his Trap Muzik days, and after that he started to go more popish-rap, and trying to jack Jay Z's style. Except he doesn't have the talent to impress the hip hop heads like Jay Z did with his mainstream singles. Lil Wayne is a much better rapper then him IMO, and The Carter 1 & 2 are better then Urban Legend, The King, and arguably Trap Muzik(IMO those were better then Trap Muzik), and I perfer Chamillionaire over T.I., even though I got sick of "Ridin" fast, overall The Sound of Revenge as a very solid album. And although I dislike G-Unit, I still would listen to Young Buck(who is a very good rapper, too bad he's with G-Unit). Hell I can list atleast 10 rappers from the South, I'd rather listen to over T.I.!

 

The Game, Papoose(who just signed a 1.5 million dollar contract last week), Saigon, Bishop Lamont, JR Writer, The Clipse, Serious Jones, Freeway, and few others are the future of rap. T.I. can stay biggin up wack ass rappers like Young Dro.

 

So what you're saying is that because you don't like him T.I. is going to be a has-been in two years while a DipSet also-ran like JR Writer is going to be Running the Rap Game.

 

okay.

 

I never said T.I. is nessecary going to be a hasbeen, more so I don't think he is going as success as he has had in past. He's already starting to sell out and become more of a pop rapper, he's going to have Justin Timberlake and Beyonce on his next album. Not a good look IMO. Eventually he's going to get expose for it and flop like Ja Rule. That's just my opinion.

 

And what does JR Writer being in Dipset have to do with anything? If you've seen any of my past posts I don't like Dipset, and I think Cam'Ron is the laziest rapper in the business(He use to be really good in the late 90's). Doesn't take away anything from his skills, he's a really good rapper. He has the mainstream appeal I think, and he can spit a hot 16. Has an original sound and will become a major force, weather he sticks with Diplomat Records or not. He's just a talented rapper.

[Annabelle 0]

jay z survived with associating with beyonce. timbaland has survived working with timberlake. quit acting all hard. good music is good music. and i'll say this, sexy back is as hot as anything that you've been mentioning lately.

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

jay z survived with associating with beyonce. timbaland has survived working with timberlake. quit acting all hard. good music is good music. and i'll say this, sexy back is as hot as anything that you've been mentioning lately.

 

The Blueprint 2 was more of a pop album then it was straight hip hop. There were a couple of really great tracks on the Blueprint 2 like "Meet the Parents", "U Don't Know(Remix)", The Watcher 2" and "Poppin Tags" but overall the CD was filled with pop songs and fillers which if he would've cut out it could've been a classic Hip Hop CD and still sold. No one really cared about Jigga doing tracks with Beyonce, because Beyonce was on a come up, and she was actually was making hot tracks.

 

And why wouldn't Timbaland survived working with Justin Timberlake? He never was a gangsta rapper, he was always a producer. He's worked with R&B acts since way back with Aaliyah, Ginuwine, Jodeci, Tweet, etc. He's just showing his versitiling as a producer.

 

If you really wanted to try to make me "wrong" you should've mentioned the Clipse doing a song with Justin Timberlake, but that's a different story, if you really want me to get into it.

 

It's funny how you bash my music opinion for listening to 2 very innovative rap groups like Bone Thugz and Onyx, who are filled with talented rappers, yet you listen to crap rap like E-40, Rick Ross, Cam'Ron(nowadays), etc. You can stay listening to Justin Timberlake's "SexyBack", while I pump Bacdafuccup, All We Got Iz Us, Shut Em Down, Black Trash: The Autography of Kirk Jones, The Art of War, E. 1999 Eternal, Creepin on Ah Come up, BTNHResurrection and other great music.

[Annabelle 0]

bone thugs is influential? your argument has no basis.

 

sexy back is great. who are you kidding?

[Lord of The Curry 0]

JR Writer is fucking awesome, those who doubt him suck cock by choice.

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

bone thugs is influential? your argument has no basis.

 

sexy back is great. who are you kidding?

 

Bone Thugz made the crazy fast flow famous, and were add the harmony to it. Bizzy Bone is IMO the fastest rapper of all time, much faster then Twista IMO.

 

Lots of rappers coming up have listed Bone Thugz as one of their influences coming up in the game, espically in the midwest and the south.

 

Also, Bone Thugz and Harmony are the only rappers to do songs with 2Pac, Biggie, Eazy E, and Big Pun while all of them were alive. What rapper can claim that? They must be good if all those legends wanted to spit a song with them.

[Ripper 0]

a few things. saigon, j.r. writer and papose are never going to be running a thing. its been like eight years now and saigon is in the same place he was when he got out of jail. strong concepts and such, but he will always be a mixtape rapper. Pappose...Canibus 2.0. That is all he is. and I will still listen to alphabetical slaughter right now and bob my head, but dude will never be more than a good featured artist on your song. j.r. if he leaves dipset maybe, but people are ignoring him because he rides with cornballs.

 

TI will have longevity because he can make radio hits, girls think he is cute, and he has a vicious flow. Lil Wayne has a more vicious flow, can make club hits, but he looks like a wet weasel. he loses some mass appeal there(and I like wayne a lot more than TI and agree the carter 1 and 2 were better albums than TI last few efforts.)

 

you are reaching with bishop lamount, Freeway, and Serious Jones. reaching HARD.

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

a few things. saigon, j.r. writer and papose are never going to be running a thing. its been like eight years now and saigon is in the same place he was when he got out of jail. strong concepts and such, but he will always be a mixtape rapper. Pappose...Canibus 2.0. That is all he is. and I will still listen to alphabetical slaughter right now and bob my head, but dude will never be more than a good featured artist on your song. j.r. if he leaves dipset maybe, but people are ignoring him because he rides with cornballs.

 

TI will have longevity because he can make radio hits, girls think he is cute, and he has a vicious flow. Lil Wayne has a more vicious flow, can make club hits, but he looks like a wet weasel. he loses some mass appeal there(and I like wayne a lot more than TI and agree the carter 1 and 2 were better albums than TI last few efforts.)

 

you are reaching with bishop lamount, Freeway, and Serious Jones. reaching HARD.

 

Saigon has yet to release an album yet, but already has media exposure by making appearences on the hit show "Entourage". I really think Just Blaze is fucking him over though, he has all the talent in the world to blow, even Jay Z has said Saigon could be running the rap game himself.

 

Papoose is going to be much larger then Canibus, he already has legenardy producers DJ Premier and Dr. Dre has expressed interest in doing songs on Papoose's album. Difference between Papoose and Canibus is that Papoose can make a good club song. He had the best verse on the "Touch It" remix IMO. Papoose to me is more like Big L if anyone because of his voice and rapping style.

 

I agree with you on JR though, I really think he needs to leave Dipset and go else. He's too talented of an MC, and he is being held back being on Diplomat Records.

 

Freeway's 1st album "Philadelphia Freeway" was a near classic IMO. His next CD is going to have all star production and some good guest apperences. I really think it's going to be a sick album. And with G-Unit helping out a little bit on the album, it might give Free the media attention he deverses. Bishop Lamont is sick, and I think that he's going to be Dr, Dre's next success. Serious Jones I'm not really sure on, but I really like his mixtape. I don't know if he's signed to anyone yet, but he KILLED Jin. I think he has alot of potential.

[Ripper 0]

Jay Z says everyone could be running the rap game. Fact is Saigon hasn't displayed anything that would suggest that he could be a commercial success. I just don't see people bopping their head to "the Letter P".

 

Papoose, like I said, will be a great guest on a song. But he is still a very lyrcial, always sounds like he is battling, no club song having mixtape king. Sure he has had some verses on some R&B singers songs, but so has Peedi Crackk and that dude ain't going to run anything either. Name one Papoose only club banger and then maybe I will start to agree with you.

 

Freeway. He is unique...but not unique like Lil Wayne. He is more annoying unique. And I know that might sound like personal opinion, but honestly, Freeways main talent is to get all intense and spit line after line of just incredible stuff that makes your face squinch...but that doesn't sell albums.

 

The people that will be "running" the rap game will be those that can sell albums to the mainstream but still have the respect of the hip hops heads and won't be looked at like they are killing the genre. The guys you have named (except Bishop Lamont who I am just not feeling) are good for half of that. But outside of Game, Lil' Wayne I don't see these guys being able to sell anything to anyone.

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

Jay Z says everyone could be running the rap game. Fact is Saigon hasn't displayed anything that would suggest that he could be a commercial success. I just don't see people bopping their head to "the Letter P".

 

Please that's lame. "Letter P" wasn't release as a single, use your head before typing. Abandoned Nation was a great mixtape and showed Saigon's skills as an MC. Saigon has versitility that most rappers wish they had.

 

Papoose, like I said, will be a great guest on a song. But he is still a very lyrcial, always sounds like he is battling, no club song having mixtape king. Sure he has had some verses on some R&B singers songs, but so has Peedi Crackk and that dude ain't going to run anything either. Name one Papoose only club banger and then maybe I will start to agree with you.

 

Papoose hasn't even attempted to make a club banger by himself yet, because he's only releasing mixtape stuff. You only make club bangers when your trying to sell an album. When you release mixtape shit, your trying to impress the Hip Hop heads, and give them somthing so they can hype you up.

 

Freeway. He is unique...but not unique like Lil Wayne. He is more annoying unique. And I know that might sound like personal opinion, but honestly, Freeways main talent is to get all intense and spit line after line of just incredible stuff that makes your face squinch...but that doesn't sell albums.

 

Freeway is has 50 Cent and Jay Z working on his album with him. He's going to blow.

[Man Who Sold The World 0]

Serious Jones is going to disappear. He got killed by Murder Mook.

 

Think Joe Budden will ever get that cred he deserves? I think this next album is make or break for him.

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

Serious Jones is going to disappear. He got killed by Murder Mook.

 

Think Joe Budden will ever get that cred he deserves? I think this next album is make or break for him.

 

Serious Jones killed Jin though. Either way who cares if he lost a freestyle battle, it wont hurt his career. People have forgotten Eminem has lost in the Rap Olympic's and has also lost to Rhymefest.

 

Serious Jones had a pretty damn good mixtape, and has shown me he has the skills to me a fresh MC, instead of a typical freestyle rapper. This kid will get signed.

 

As for Joe Budden, he's one of my top 5 favorite ACTIVE rappers right now, but who knows what will happen with his career. I really doubt that "The Growth" will be dropped in 2006, I hope Budden comes correct thought. Even if it wont sell that much, I just want him to make a classic album. If he can do that, then he could get record sales, "Fire" was a pretty big club banger, so I know he can make a good club banger. Let's just hope he will blow, for the sake of Hip Hop.