Iron Maiden

[Guest Crimson Idol]

Brave New World was better than DOD and DOD was better than A matter of life and death.

Maiden still rocks though

[randomguy]

The last Maiden album I got was Virtua XI, which was awful. I actually own BNW but I've never opened it!

 

I guess now that Bruce is back I should check them out some more.

[Slayer]

I guess now that Bruce is back

Hey, how about that new millenium

[Red Baron]

The last Maiden album I got was Virtua XI, which was awful. I actually own BNW but I've never opened it!

 

I guess now that Bruce is back I should check them out some more.

 

Rob Halford is back with Judas Priest as well.

[Corey_Lazarus]

And Lemmy hasn't died yet.

[swan]

And Lemmy hasn't died yet.

 

Lemmy is like a cockroach, he'll survive a nuclear holocaust.

[pochorenella]

Yeah, I heard that today. Kinda weird that a band that's so highly regarded as Iron Maiden has never had an album debut in the top 10.

 

Yes, and if memory serves right, they're also one of the biggest bands of its kind to also never appear in the Billboard Top 100 singles chart. Even Judas Priest charted back in the day with "You've Got Another Thing Comin'".

[Red Baron]

Bring Your Daughter to the Slaughter was in the singles chart.

[Slayer]

Go figure one of the worst songs they've ever done is the one to chart...

 

NPFTD for me is a big black hole in their discography. I like to pretend their work jumps straight from SSOASS to FOTD.

 

And before anyone says anything, even VXI had "Futureal"

[pochorenella]

Bring Your Daughter to the Slaughter was in the singles chart.

 

Are you sure? I'm gonna have to check on that, although if it did chart you might remember it was originally a song from Bruce Dickinson's first solo effort (Tattooed Millionaire IIRC?), so technically it wouldn't count even if Maiden included it later on No Prayer For the Dying.

[ZGangsta]

Bring Your Daughter to the Slaughter was in the singles chart.

 

Are you sure? I'm gonna have to check on that, although if it did chart you might remember it was originally a song from Bruce Dickinson's first solo effort (Balls to Picasso IIRC?), so technically it wouldn't count even if Maiden included it later on Fear of The Dark.

If I recall, "Bring Your Daughter to the Slaughter" was a number one single in the UK. But I don't know if they've ever charted in the US.

[Corey_Lazarus]

Which is atrocious, since Maiden >>>>>>>>>> every other mainstream 80's band.

 

Oh well. Divine justice, perhaps? Maiden still sells out arenas and stadiums worldwide, and bands that were HUUUUUUGE in the 80's sometimes have trouble filling a club (or not burning the people inside of it).

[randomguy]

Bring Your Daughter to the Slaughter also won a Golden Rasberry award for worst song of the year or something like that.

 

Anyway I've known Bruce was back for a while, I just lost interest after Virtua XI. Really the last 4 to 5 albums before that were a very mixed bag. The last few Bruce albums were not particularly good. X-Factor had some good songs but the middle section was way too bland, the entire middle of the disc is songs about war that basically sound the same. Virtua XI was just awful.

 

So after that I just figured their best albums were behind them.

[pochorenella]

Bring Your Daughter to the Slaughter was in the singles chart.

Are you sure? I'm gonna have to check on that, although if it did chart you might remember it was originally a song from Bruce Dickinson's first solo effort (Tattooed Millionaire IIRC?), so technically it wouldn't count even if Maiden included it later on No Prayer For the Dying.

If I recall, "Bring Your Daughter to the Slaughter" was a number one single in the UK. But I don't know if they've ever charted in the US.

 

Iron Maiden has charted quite a few singles on the UK charts since way back, but I was talking about the Billboard Hot 100/Top 100 Singles chart and I was right. There's never been an Iron Maiden single ranked there. I was wrong on my Bruce Dickinson reference though, as "BYD...TTS" wasn't on Tattooed Millionarie, although I'm sure it was a Dickinson song before it was a Maiden one.

[Corey_Lazarus]

Just picked it up today (on delivery, swung by Newbury Comics, and grabbed it). Looked for it at 3 different stores last night to no avail.

 

Can't wait for the drive home when I can pop it in and give it a listen.

[The Metal Maniac]

I was wrong on my Bruce Dickinson reference though, as "BYD...TTS" wasn't on Tattooed Millionarie, although I'm sure it was a Dickinson song before it was a Maiden one.

 

Bruce wrote the song for the soundtrack of some movie...I think maybe a Nightmare on Elm Street flick? Anyway, he wrote it, and released it, then Steve Harris heard it, and was like "Hey, that'd be a good Maiden track" so Bruce's original version was pulled off the shelves and the Maiden version was recorded and rushed out. The song was never intended to be on Tattooed Millionaire, as it was basically recording the song that led to Bruce doing the album in the first place.

 

At least, that's what I recall from the interview with Bruce on his Best Of double-album. I could be off, but that's the jist of it.

 

Hey Slayer, didja give a good listen to the new BG yet? I listened to it pretty much straight-through the other day whilst going for a walk. Pretty good, but it seems like there's a little extra cheese, even for BG. Like, I had to skip a song or two, which I thought was odd.

[Red Baron]

My bad, but I mean I remember Maiden getting in lots of shit for that song, and being called Satanic for that song.

[Slayer]

Hey Slayer, didja give a good listen to the new BG yet?

I gave it a cursory listen while working the other day. It sounded good, from what I recall, but seems to be lacking something... I dunno... it just doesn't have the "feel" like the previous two (NATO and NIME)

[Red Baron]

Also on Virtual XI is The Clansman, the best song that is not Dickinson era, and probably one of Maiden's best song, especially Live.

[The Metal Maniac]

Personally, I think the best Blaze-era song is "Sign of the Cross", but I would agree that "The Clansman" is the best track on Virtual XI.

[ZGangsta]

Also on Virtual XI is The Clansman, the best song that is not Dickinson era, and probably one of Maiden's best song, especially Live.

Especially when Dickinson is singing it.

[Slayer]

Just to go for the other side, Blaze's solo material is quite good, I think, especially Tenth Dimension

[Red Baron]

Blaze is good.

 

But I mean, you can't replace Bruce.

[Slayer]

Of course not.

 

I just think there's a lot of Maiden fans who still unfairly shit on the guy just because they hated his tenure with IM

[Slayer]

I also like him because his lower voice makes it easier for me to sing along, given my own deeper singing voice (which makes it difficult to sing along with the majority of metal singers, who stick to the high range)

[Slayer]

As I break out my live Blaze album, I forget the Blaze IM era also produced "Virus", a very underrated song

[The Metal Maniac]

The song is damn good, but as I realized while watching a Maiden DVD the other day, the video sucks.

 

I should point out though, that I like Blaze-era Maiden. Sure he's not as good, but he's still capable, and the music is still good behind him.

[Slayer]

X-Factor is a top five on my personal IM list. I really like the dark tone of the album. Shame VXI proved to be a horrible follow-up

[Red Baron]

I prefer Virtual XI over X-Factor my self, and I'll agree that Sign O'The Cross is an awesome song, just not as great as The Clansman.

[The Metal Maniac]

I'll have to side with Slayer on this one, though I wouldn't call VXI "horrible".