Clemens, Pettitte, Tejada, and others named in PED case

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Hey just in time for the playoffs!

 

http://www.newsday.com/sports/la-sp-clemen...ports-headlines

 

Clemens, Others Implicated in Banned Drug Case

By Lance Pugmire and Tim Brown

Times Staff Writers

 

October 1, 2006

 

 

Roger Clemens, 44, one of professional baseball's most durable and successful pitchers, is among six players accused by a former teammate of using performance-enhancing drugs, The Times has learned. The names had been blacked out in an affidavit filed in federal court.

 

Others whose identities had been concealed include Clemens' fellow Houston Astros pitcher, Andy Pettitte, and former American League Most Valuable Player Miguel Tejada of the Baltimore Orioles.

 

The discovery ends four months of speculation surrounding the possible identities of Major League Baseball figures whose names were redacted from a search warrant affidavit filed in Phoenix on May 31. The document was based on statements made to federal agents by pitcher Jason Grimsley.

 

Grimsley, a journeyman relief pitcher who has played on several teams including the New York Yankees, Baltimore Orioles and the Angels, acknowledged using steroids, amphetamines and other drugs, investigators said in the document. He also implicated a number of former teammates, but the names were blacked out in copies of the affidavit that were made public in June after investigators used the warrant to raid Grimsley's house.

 

A source with authorized access to an unredacted affidavit allowed The Times to see it, but retained it to read back what had been blacked out of the public copies. A second source and confidante of Grimsley had previously disclosed player identities and provided additional details about the affidavit. The sources insisted on anonymity.

 

According to the affidavit, Grimsley told investigators that Clemens and Pettitte "used athletic performance-enhancing drugs." He also said Tejada used anabolic steroids.

 

Clemens and Pettitte did not respond to requests for comment made Saturday through their agents and the Astros. Tejada had previously declined to be interviewed.

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*buries head in hands*

 

For Christ's sake, this couldn't have waited a few weeks? I was just starting to enjoy baseball without steroid discussions of any kind, and now this comes along to cast a shadow over the entire playoffs, especially if the Astros make it in.

 

Damn it.

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On the plus side, Roger Clemens, who I dislike, seems to be going down.

 

On the minus side, Andy Pettite, who I like, seems to be going down.

 

 

Shit, meet fan.

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Say it aint so, Rocket.

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Well, I shall withhold judgment until further details come to light.

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If this finally makes Fat Boy Clemens go away, I'm all for it.

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It should be noted PED can mean a lot of things including "greenies" which everyone and their mother was taking in baseball the last several decades before this year. Now they just all drink Red Bulls in the dugout. Although at least according the article Grimsley specifically said Tejada used steroids.

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Oh yeah, I'm sure that Clemens and Pettitte and probably 99% of ballplayers have taken amphetamines. That wouldn't be shocking. It wouldn't be completely shocking if it came out that Clemens was doping. It would be shocking if Pettitte was. It just doesn't seem in character.

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Oh also I didn't post the full article because it's very long but the other three names that were leaked was Brain Roberts, Jay Gibbons, and David Segui. Segui has already admitted he used HGH at one point.

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Brain Roberts

Or lack thereof.

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Although at least according the article Grimsley specifically said Tejada used steroids.

 

Of course. He was giving B-12 to Raffy last season!

 

Clemens...meh, doesn't really surprise me. But Pettitte?

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Clemens...meh, doesn't really surprise me. But Pettitte?

 

Like father like son. You of all people should know that Andy "trained" with Roger while they were on the Yankees together.

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After reading the linked article and a few more, I have comments.

 

The article(s) only mention Clemens and Pettitte in relation to "performance-enhancing drugs". It never mentions the two in relation to steroids or HGH, but does specifically use the word steroids and the term HGH to talk about other players. If the "performance-enhancing drugs" does mean steroids or HGH, I find it odd that the paragraph that mentions Tejada using them didn't also mention Clemens and Pettitte since the two paragraphs were right next to each other. Ergo, I deduce that neither Clemens nor Pettitte are being accused of taking either anabolic steroids or HGH. Of course, during the "Grimsley Era" in New York (99, 2000), there were certain "PED" that weren't on the banned list. If the article's not completely bogus, which it very well might be, I suspect that the "PED" brought up relating to Pettitte and Clemens is either greenies or other uppers or creatin...something like that.

 

Then there's the whole thing that this article might be complete crap. It's very vague when mentioning how the newspaper in question obtained these blacked-out names; attributing everything to "sources". Then there's the "sources" that say that Jason Grimsley was co-erced into agreeing with whatever names the investigators threw out there as using steroids or such.

 

Then there's the fact that Jason Grimsley seems like a scuzzy character in general.

 

Yeah, so I'm not totally buying this. At least not till something more concrete comes up, something more than hearsay.

 

And I'm not just disagreeing with the article because I'm a Clemens and Pettitte fan. I am, but if they were doping, I certainly don't agree with nor support it. O.k. that's my two cents. Later, homies.

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At least this allows me to put big, fat, personal asterik next to the Astros' 2005 wild card berth. By atonishing coincidence, that makes the Phillies 2005 playoff entrants!

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ATLANTA -- The Houston Astros' run for the postseason took a backseat Sunday morning in the wake of a report that stated Roger Clemens and Andy Pettitte were named by Jason Grimsley as players who had used performance-enhancing drugs.

In separate interviews Sunday morning, Pettitte and Clemens both denied allegations that appeared in the Sunday edition of the Los Angeles Times, which stated that Grimsley named the two Astros pitchers, as well as Miguel Tejada, Brian Roberts and Jay Gibbons of the Baltimore Orioles.

 

The names were reportedly redacted in an affidavit from the U.S. Attorney's office following an interview with the former Diamondbacks relief pitcher earlier this year.

 

Pettitte and Clemens played with Grimsley while with the New York Yankees in 1999 and 2000.

 

"I haven't done anything," Pettitte said. "I guess reports are saying I've used performance-enhancing drugs. I've never used any drugs to enhance my performance on a baseball field before. I don't know what else to say except it's embarrassing that my name would be out there with this."

 

Clemens came out firing, adamantly denying he had ever taken performance-enhancing drugs and threatening legal action.

 

"I didn't see [the report], nor do I need to see it," he said. "But for the people involved, I think it's very dangerous and malicious and reckless on their part for some guys to have a document or whatever he did and supposedly put it out there with somebody else's writing on it. These are the things we're hearing.

 

"Grimsley never worked out with myself or Andy at any point. I don't know where that's coming from. When it's going to take a serious turn for me is when one of my sponsors pull out, then somebody's going to be responsible for that. Then my lawyers will take over from there."

 

 

Alyson Footer is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.

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"Never in a million years" - Jason Grimsley.

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At least this allows me to put big, fat, personal asterik next to the Astros' 2005 wild card berth. By atonishing coincidence, that makes the Phillies 2005 playoff entrants!

 

Congratulations.

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Heh.

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I guess that Al will now just have to accept the fact that the clutchness of Craig Biggio is what kept the Phils out of last year's playoffs and not Performance Enhancers, as Jason Grimsley's attorny said that he was misquoted and actually said that Clemens and Pettitte wouldn't take PEDs "never in a million years". There's a subtle conspiracy theory going around some people in Houston saying that the LA Times put that article out when the Astros were in a must-win situation to go to the postseason and would be rattledy such an article, effectively keeping the Astros pitching rotation away from the Dodgers and the playoffs. Personally, I find that to be as dumb a conspiracy theory as an article I read a couple years ago saying that Jeff Bagwell is baseball's steroid kingpin and is responsible for introducing the drug into the game. The best part of this whole thing is the other night on the news, Mark Berman, Houston sports news guy, interviewed Clemens and asked him if he ever got tired of being brought up in steroid rumors and such, to which Clemens responded, "Never get into a pissing contest with a skunk." I have no idea what that means, but it sounds neat.