Bored Posted October 31, 2006 Report Posted October 31, 2006 Network/Basic Cable Schedule TUESDAY UAB at SMU, 7:30/4:30 PM, ESPN2 WEDNESDAY Fresno State at #14 Boise State, 8:00/5:00 PM, ESPN2 THURSDAY #3 West Virginia at #5 Louisville, 7:30/4:30 PM, ESPN FRIDAY Air Force at Army, 8:00/5:00 PM, ESPN2 SATURDAY Penn State at #16 Wisconsin, Noon/9:00 AM, ABC* Missouri at Nebraska, Noon/9:00 AM, ABC* Maryland at #19 Clemson, Noon/9:00 AM, ESPN2 Baylor at Texas Tech, Noon/9:00 AM, FSN North Carolina at #9 Notre Dame, 2:30 PM/11:30 AM, NBC TCU at UNLV, 3:00 PM/Noon, Versus #17 LSU at #11 Tennessee, 3:30/12:30 PM, CBS #1 Ohio State at Illinois, 3:30/12:30 PM, ESPN2 Washington at #22 Oregon, 3:30/12:30 PM, TBS Kansas State at Colorado, 3:30/12:30 PM, FSN #15 Boston College at #24 Wake Forest, 7:00/4:00 PM, ESPN2 Oklahoma State at #7 Texas, 7:00/4:00 PM, TBS #8 USC at Stanford, 7:00/4:00 PM, FSN #13 Arkansas at South Carolina, 7:45/4:45 PM, ESPN #18 Oklahoma at #21 Texas A&M, 8:00/5:00 PM, ABC* UCLA at #10 California, 8:00/5:00 PM, ABC* #25 Virginia Tech at Miami, 8:00/5:00 PM, ABC* SUNDAY Southern Miss at Memphis, 8:00/5:00 PM, ESPN Other Cable/Gameplan Schedule SATURDAY Ball State at #2 Michigan, Noon/9:00 AM, ESPNU Virginia at Florida State, Noon/9:00 AM, LF/GP Pittsburgh at South Florida, Noon/9:00 AM, GP Northwestern at Iowa, Noon/9:00 AM, GP #4 Florida at Vanderbilt, 12:30 PM/9:30 AM, LF/GP Mississippi State at Alabama, 12:30 PM/9:30 AM, LF/GP Hawaii at Utah State, 3:00 PM/Noon, GP Purdue at Michigan State, 3:30/12:30 PM, ESPNU Tulsa at Houston, 4:00/1:00 PM, CSTV Louisiana-Lafayette at Troy, 4:00/1:00 PM, GP #20 Georgia Tech at N.C. State, 7:00/4:00 PM, ESPNU Tulane at Marshall, 8:00/5:00 PM, CSTV All Other D-IA Games SATURDAY Indiana at Minnesota, ESPN360 Georgia at Kentucky Navy at Duke Central Michigan at Temple Bowling Green at Akron Kent State Buffalo Ohio at Eastern Michigan Kansas at Iowa State Northwestern State at Mississippi Arkansas State at #6 Auburn Florida Atlantic at Middle Tennessee Miami of Ohio at Western Michigan San Diego State at Wyoming East Carolina at Central Florida Arizona State at Oregon State Arizona at #23 Washington State Nevada at Idaho BYU at Colorado State Louisiana Tech at North Texas San Jose State at New Mexico State Rice at UTEP
Guest Princess Leena Posted October 31, 2006 Report Posted October 31, 2006 Ugh, 3 great games that I must watch on weekdays. Fuck that.
iggymcfly Posted October 31, 2006 Report Posted October 31, 2006 You can skip the Boise State game. It will be 28-3 by halftime. And the Air Force/Army game might be neat for the tradition, but Army's looked awful the last few weeks, losing to UConn and Tulane by double digits.
cabbageboy Posted October 31, 2006 Report Posted October 31, 2006 Oh man, this is the week. If U of L can win this one vs. WVU then it's on to Rutgers and a possible unbeaten season. With a loss though? Bye bye Big East title and likely the BCS. I wrote a lot of smack early on about how I thought U of L would smoke WVU in this game out of revenge for last year. It still might happen, but with Bush out and U of L not exactly firing on all cylinders lately I'd say WVU is likely the better team right now. I'm hoping emotion and home field will play a part.
iggymcfly Posted October 31, 2006 Report Posted October 31, 2006 West Virginia's slightly better than Louisville. As in by a very marginal amount. Probably two or three points. Louisville's home advantage is worth nine points on average. I like the Cardinals a lot in this game.
HarleyQuinn Posted October 31, 2006 Report Posted October 31, 2006 Another big week in I-AA Football pitting numerous Top 25 teams against one another. My I-AA Game of the Week: #3 Massachusetts vs. #9 New Hampshire. QBs Liam Coen (#1 in QB Rating) and Ricky Santos (#9 in QB Rating) square off in what could be a high scoring shootout. #12 Southern Illinois vs. #7 Youngstown State #6 Cal Poly vs. #2 Montana Possible upset games #5 North Dakota State vs. UC Davis #25 Portland State vs. Northern Arizona Delaware vs. #4 James Madison Penn vs. #23 Princeton
Guest Princess Leena Posted October 31, 2006 Report Posted October 31, 2006 You can skip the Boise State game. It will be 28-3 by halftime. And the Air Force/Army game might be neat for the tradition, but Army's looked awful the last few weeks, losing to UConn and Tulane by double digits. Lolz, I thought it said Navy. Yes, Friday night's game stinks. AF should blow them out. Or, blow them out as much as a team that only runs can. I want to watch Boise St. because I've seen them only once this year.
Guest Princess Leena Posted October 31, 2006 Report Posted October 31, 2006 West Virginia's slightly better than Louisville. As in by a very marginal amount. Probably two or three points. Louisville's home advantage is worth nine points on average. I like the Cardinals a lot in this game. I also like Louisville -2, where it's currently at. But, WVU's offense hasn't even put together a complete game all year, and they're still dominant. I'll sit back and enjoy this one.
cabbageboy Posted October 31, 2006 Report Posted October 31, 2006 Well, U of L has to hold them to 28 points. I don't see WVU scoring less than that. Talk about WVU not having a totally dominant offensive effort, what about the Cards? Bush's injury has started to really show in the past few weeks as it's been tougher to run the ball (especially with Cantwell at QB, and now a somewhat rusty Brohm). U of L has been solid against the rush this season, but yet to really go against an option style QB. Believe me, if there's one thing U of L has never and will never defend it is any sort of option attack. After all, last year Slaton wasn't really killing us until the 1st string QB Bednarik got hurt. Hopefully Petrino has had time to figure something out.
USC Wuz Robbed! Posted October 31, 2006 Report Posted October 31, 2006 Another big week in I-AA Football pitting numerous Top 25 teams against one another. My I-AA Game of the Week: #3 Massachusetts vs. #9 New Hampshire. QBs Liam Coen (#1 in QB Rating) and Ricky Santos (#9 in QB Rating) square off in what could be a high scoring shootout. #12 Southern Illinois vs. #7 Youngstown State #6 Cal Poly vs. #2 Montana Possible upset games #5 North Dakota State vs. UC Davis #25 Portland State vs. Northern Arizona Delaware vs. #4 James Madison Penn vs. #23 Princeton HQ, I like what you do. You keep posting I-AA games. There are truly underappreciated teams out there in that division who deserves recognition. Kudos and keep that up.
HarleyQuinn Posted October 31, 2006 Report Posted October 31, 2006 HQ, I like what you do. You keep posting I-AA games. There are truly underappreciated teams out there in that division who deserves recognition. Kudos and keep that up. Thanks, Samurai! I also find it fun, especially with the I-AA playoffs coming up in about 4 weeks or so. Hope to give a sense of which teams are good and I'll likely do a write up of players on playoff teams to watch for when the playoffs roll around.
Guest Princess Leena Posted October 31, 2006 Report Posted October 31, 2006 I also appreciate the I-AA updates as there's nothing about it on TV, or even much on the Internet. How do the I-AA playoffs work? Is it just the Top 16 ranked teams get in, or do conference winners get automatic bids?
HarleyQuinn Posted October 31, 2006 Report Posted October 31, 2006 I-AA Playoffs An NCAA committee, comprised of knowledgeable administrators from various institutions around the country, holds teleconferences during the season to assemble regional rankings. They meet in Indianapolis on the final weekend of the regular season in November to select 16 teams for the I-AA playoffs. Eight teams receive automatic bids as champions of the strongest I-AA leagues and eight other teams are selected as at-large entrants. Four teams are seeded and four of the other teams in the field are selected to host first-round games. The 16 teams are bracketed and the month-long tournament begins. Credit to I-AA.org Currently the 8 strongest I-AA leagues are IMO (not in order)... - Atlantic Ten Southern - Great West - Gateway - Big South - Northeast - Ohio Valley - SWAC East - MEAC
Guest Princess Leena Posted October 31, 2006 Report Posted October 31, 2006 I really fail to see why I-A can't use that system, but we don't need to get into that. I assume the Great West and Pioneer League are part of the strongest conferences. Although, I'm sure NDSU will get a high seeding.
USC Wuz Robbed! Posted October 31, 2006 Report Posted October 31, 2006 Because there's less goodwill between the "power" conferences in D1-A. Why would SEC want a Pac-10 team in the bowls and vice versa?
HarleyQuinn Posted October 31, 2006 Report Posted October 31, 2006 I really fail to see why I-A can't use that system, but we don't need to get into that. I assume the Great West and Pioneer League are part of the strongest conferences. Although, I'm sure NDSU will get a high seeding. Here are the number of .500+ level teams in the leagues I chose. Atlantic 10 Southern: 4 of 6 teams Great West: 4 of 5 teams Gateway: 5 of 8 teams (and Western Illinois is 4-5) Big South: 3 of 5 teams (Reasoning: 1 is 8-0 and the other two are 6-2) Northeast: 4 of 8 teams (with 2 teams having 4-5 records though) Ohio Valley: 5 of 9 teams SWAC East: 4 of 5 teams MEAC: 5 of 9 teams (with 1 team at 4-5) The Pioneer League is solid, 4 of 8 teams with .500+ records (could edge the Big South) but the down teams are all 3-6 at best at the moment, which hurts them IMO.
Guest Princess Leena Posted October 31, 2006 Report Posted October 31, 2006 So, they're not predetermined. Nice. Although, I don't know how you properly compare a conference with 5 teams to one with 8 or more.
HarleyQuinn Posted October 31, 2006 Report Posted October 31, 2006 So, they're not predetermined. Nice. Although, I don't know how you properly compare a conference with 5 teams to one with 8 or more. If anything, it shows just how good the 5 team conferences are as they are forced to play more out of conference games, usually against top competition since they're in a smaller conference and need to prove themselves to the playoff committee. They can't afford to face easy competition, especially if their division is tough like the Great West where the top 4 of the 5 teams are a combined 6-3 in conference play. For comparison, the Ivy League Northeast has two teams at 1-4 and one at 0-5 in conference play. It's like comparing Michigan playing Ohio State, Penn State, and Minnesota to East Carolina playing UCF, UAB, and Memphis.
gWIL Posted October 31, 2006 Report Posted October 31, 2006 Indiana at Minnesota. Most interesting game of the week. Does Indiana continue to not suck and become bowl eligible?
iggymcfly Posted October 31, 2006 Report Posted October 31, 2006 I'm pretty sure it is predetermined. The auto bid leagues just aren't listed there. The Southern and Southland conferences definitely get automatic bids, but I'm not sure if you've got the other ones. Oh, and the Big Sky. That's possibly the best conference in I-AA year in and year out. I tried searching on Google, but I got a bunch of conflicting answers, so I really can't tell you which leagues are auto-bids and which aren't. I do know that the Ivy League never accepts playoff berths though, because they're too stuffy. Here's a ranking of I-AA conferences by Sagarin: 12 GREAT WEST (AA)= 60.50 59.53 ( 12) 5 13 ATLANTIC 10 (AA)= 57.37 57.66 ( 13) 12 14 GATEWAY (AA)= 56.60 55.11 ( 16) 8 16 BIG SKY (AA)= 55.19 55.31 ( 15) 9 17 SOUTHERN (AA)= 50.19 50.89 ( 17) 8 18 IVY LEAGUE (AA)= 49.79 49.83 ( 18) 8 19 BIG SOUTH (AA)= 45.39 44.52 ( 19) 5 20 SOUTHLAND (AA)= 43.57 43.27 ( 20) 7 21 PATRIOT LEAGUE (AA)= 43.26 42.95 ( 21) 7 22 OHIO VALLEY (AA)= 41.96 42.46 ( 22) 9 23 SOUTHWESTERN (AA)= 39.73 39.53 ( 23) 10 24 MID-EASTERN (AA)= 38.91 37.87 ( 24) 9 25 NORTHEAST (AA)= 35.56 34.93 ( 25) 8 26 I-AA INDEPENDENTS (AA)= 31.58 32.34 ( 27) 4 27 PIONEER (AA)= 31.03 33.23 ( 26) 8 28 METRO ATLANTIC (AA)= 21.89 21.88 ( 28) 5 It starts with 12 because it includes I-A conferences as well, and skips 15 because that's where the Sun Belt belongs.
HarleyQuinn Posted October 31, 2006 Report Posted October 31, 2006 As far as I've found, these are the conferences with automatic bids (looks like some great teams may get screwed). Gateway Southern Atlantic 10 Southland Ohio Valley Patriot League MEAC Big Sky
Spicy McHaggis Posted November 1, 2006 Report Posted November 1, 2006 Well, West Virginia/Louisville should be a fast-paced, exciting game. Meaningless, but exciting nonetheless. I should say I hope the voters will treat it as meaningless.
Guest Princess Leena Posted November 1, 2006 Report Posted November 1, 2006 How is a game between two undefeated teams meaningless.
Spicy McHaggis Posted November 1, 2006 Report Posted November 1, 2006 Both of their strength of schedule ratings should be horribly weak. They should not even be considered in the conversation for the national championship. Neither team has beaten anyone impressive, nor will their weak schedules be validated with a victory Thursday.
Edwin MacPhisto Posted November 1, 2006 Report Posted November 1, 2006 Someone's still grumpy about USC getting Beaver'd. I'm super-psyched for the Thursday game. Who cares if they maybe don't deserve to be in the championship game? It's not like it's two really shitty teams playing each other.
iggymcfly Posted November 1, 2006 Report Posted November 1, 2006 Both of their strength of schedule ratings will be greatly improved after facing each other, Rutgers, and Pitt, the three toughest games on the schedule. Seriously, unless you're going to have an OSU/Michigan rematch (which no one wants to see), I don't see how you can keep an undefeated Big East team out of the title game.
Spicy McHaggis Posted November 1, 2006 Report Posted November 1, 2006 You've got to be kidding me Iggy... Rutgers schedule strength is in the tank, too. I don't know how many times I have to say this, beating an undefeated team doesn't mean anything if that undefeated team didn't beat anybody meaningful. I've got numbers to back me up: A&H Rutgers: 50 Louisville: 55 West Virginia: 86 Colley Matrix Rutgers: 76 Louisville: 85 West Virginia: 99 Kenneth Massey Rutgers: 77 Louisville: 61 West Virginia: 80 Jeff Sagarin Rutgers: 97 Louisville: 70 West Virginia: 89 Outside of Texas, not one team in the top 10 on average has a schedule strength rating north of 30. I'm not grumpy about Oregon State, in fact I'm encouraged after what I saw in the fourth quarter, especially out of Booty. I don't want an Ohio State/Michigan rematch. The loser of that game will have had their chance and should not get another shot in what is effectively the very next game. It should be another one loss team, anybody other than Texas, rather than an undefeated team from a conference that is no better then conference USA, or the Mac.
iggymcfly Posted November 1, 2006 Report Posted November 1, 2006 West Virginia, Louisville, Pitt, and Rutgers haven't played anyone but each other. This is a pretty weak argument. That's three tough conference games, and a lot of teams don't play anyone too tough OOC. Florida's toughest non-conference game was against Southern Miss. LSU's was against Arizona. No one's complaining about their schedules after playing their conference games. If at the end of the season, an undefeated team out of the Big East still isn't ranked in the Top 40 in strength of schedule, then you might have an argument.
Edwin MacPhisto Posted November 1, 2006 Report Posted November 1, 2006 Those numbers don't back you up--they just make Iggy's point. They haven't played the toughest teams on their schedules yet.
Spicy McHaggis Posted November 1, 2006 Report Posted November 1, 2006 You guys are fucking insane. The toughest teams on their schedules have equally weak schedule strength ratings, therefore a win against one of those teams doesn't validate ANYTHING.
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