Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted June 18, 2007 I believe he asked Matt Stone to do the cartoon and he flat out refused; so he just had someone copy the Southpark style and tried to imply they did it. Very sad, and yes the cartoon was pretty fucking off. I was always under the impression that the south park guys did do it, and that they couldn't have been that angry at him considering Stone volunteered to give an interview in the movie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted June 18, 2007 I believe he asked Matt Stone to do the cartoon and he flat out refused; so he just had someone copy the Southpark style and tried to imply they did it. Very sad, and yes the cartoon was pretty fucking off. I was always under the impression that the south park guys did do it, and that they couldn't have been that angry at him considering Stone volunteered to give an interview in the movie. Apparently he asked Stone to do the cartoon after the interview and Stone had no interest in doing it. Another one of Moore's nice little tricks, he interviews someone and then afterwards tries to work his own special little agenda in. Though I no longer feel for anyone actually accepting an interview with Michael Moore. You know going in that he'll do everything in his power to make you look like shit even if you haven't done anything wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coffin Surfer 0 Report post Posted June 18, 2007 This interview is from http://www.spscriptorium.com/SPinfo/050926CharlieRose.htm Trey: I mean, nuno, it was really um, ah, that was a personal thing for me, anyway, because he, he actually called us when he was making the Bowling For Columbine movie, and he said um, he said "I'm making this movie about gun control; will you make an animated thing for it?" and we said "ah, no, sorry, we're busy. I have a gun, actually, you know, so uh, I'muh, I'm not really interested." But then he said, to Matt, he said "Well, we're going to interview, uhuh, we just want to interview you about Littleton, ask you about Littleton," and that seemed like a, you know, a fine thing, so Matt went and did an interview about Littleton, and then- Charlie: [to Matt] And that's all you talked about. Littleton. Matt: Yeh- Naw, we talked about a lot of stuff, and I said, uh, he interviewed me and he didn't misrepresent me in the movie at all, I mean, I think I, ...you know, it's not like I'm mad about my interview or anything, um, he didn't mischaracterize me, but he did do an animation that was surprisingly South Park-like. He had somebody else do an animation, and most people that see- Charlie: Ahh, so he ripped off South Park... Trey: Well, and what happened wa- Matt: ...yeah. Trey: He actually ripped off a film I made while I was in college. It was... South Park-looking Matt: It was called "American History." Trey: It was called "Ameri-" my movie was called "American History," and this thing ripped that off, and, they put it right after Matt's interview to make it look like we did it. Charlie: Ohhh Trey: So then, everyone started coming up and goin' "hey man, love that thing about, you know, glad you hate guns too!" and I'm like "I don't hate guns," you know, and it's like "hey man, the cool thing you did," and I was just like [blank stare, his eyes flit back and forth] and then people came out and started saying "well you know, Michael Moore, he just, he's a manipulator and he changes things to make things look some way," and I'm like "Yeah.I'm, I was p-a personal victim of that." It's totally true. [Matt laughs] So I made him a fat piece of ham in my movie and I blew him up. [gloating a bit] I I, I'm fine. I I feel fine now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted June 18, 2007 I got turned off on Michael Moore to a point after watching "Bowling" and seeing how he totally baited Charlton Heston into doing that interview. Yes, it was a little amusing, but it's not really fair when you interview someone who is completely not prepared for your topic, and is basically more of a figurehead than a real expert anyway. Moore is a good film maker who chooses controversial topics, but like others have said, if you're already on his side, you'll stay there, and if not, his movies won't do anything if you have any capacity to think critically. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coffin Surfer 0 Report post Posted June 18, 2007 "I got turned off on Michael Moore to a point after watching "Bowling" and seeing how he totally baited Charlton Heston into doing that interview. Yes, it was a little amusing, but it's not really fair when you interview someone who is completely not prepared for your topic, and is basically more of a figurehead than a real expert anyway." Especially when you mutilate said interview in post-production to create whatever impression want as was believed to happen here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gary Floyd 0 Report post Posted June 18, 2007 I downloaded it last night. My thoughts: It's more tolerable than his previous two movies, and he brings up some great points. For the most part, he actually does a decent job of showing you the flaws in U.S. Healthcare, though I feel like he tampered with the facts a few times when it comes to Canada (at least he seems to be doing it a little less.) Also, he rips on both parties pretty harshly, and Hillary Clinton fans are going to hate him after they see this. The bit with him in Cuba is when the movie starts to take a turn for the worst. It's at this moment that the movie degenerates into him being a jackass, and detracting from the issue. This is the worst part, because up until that point, he was making a biased but interesting point, and was also making some pretty good points about the flaws in U.S. Healthcare. When he pulls the stunt in Cuba though, he ends up flushing that credibility down the toilet. Still, it's better than "Bowling for Columbine" and "Farenheit 9/11", though in the end, you wish somebody other than Michael Moore would have done this, or that he would have stayed away from his usual stunts and tactics, because U.S. Healthcare is flawed IMO, and would make a great documentary topic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites