Downhome 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2008 Does that make sense or am I being OCD about that? If you're being OCD about it then so am I. I agree with you 100%. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Kamala 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2008 My house show thread in June '06 only got 16 replies and it had Batista's return But yeah IMO house show reports deserve their own threads. I like 'em for some reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2008 It helps if the person that went has a flare for writing. Not necessarily even a good writer, but someone that can paint a picture to the reader of the show they saw. For every detailed report thread, I'm sure we'll get wrestlingfan8219 making a thread with "hey guys I went to a show. HHH beat umanga. Cena beat Orton but it was dq so orton is still the chimp." and so on, but it could be good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Kamala 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2008 It helps if the person that went has a flare for writing. Not necessarily even a good writer, but someone that can paint a picture to the reader of the show they saw. For every detailed report thread, I'm sure we'll get wrestlingfan82 making a thread with "hey guys I went to a show. HHH beat umanga. Cena beat Orton but it was dq so orton is still the chimp." and so on, but it could be good. His name is jericholic82, Venk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2008 I was not making any specific reference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dandy 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2008 It doesn't bother me if you go by the 5 year rule, the start of the attitude era, the name change to WWE, or whatever. I was thinking that if discussion involves a wrestler that is currently on the roster, then it should be okay in here. As an example, with the Triple H/Steph/Angle thread I made, I had no problem with it being moved to General Wrestling because I forgot the 5 year rule. However, who's to say that discussion wouldn't evolve into Triple H's current character some? I think that is a decent rule to abide by, and a fairly easier one than the others. What if an angle started 5 years and 2 months ago, but ran for 8 months? Where do you put that? If it involves people currently on the roster, talk about it here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2008 However, who's to say that discussion wouldn't evolve into Triple H's current character some? Cheech did mention a loophole like that could be used, but that involved stating from the outset that it would be discussing current day ramifications. Perhaps a rule of thumb could be if the subject(s) of conversation actually still work for the company, it's (potentially) topical. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dandy 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2008 Wasn't that what I said? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2008 Wasn't that what I said? Like I said earlier, referencing old characters or angles is more than acceptable, but try to make it relevant toward's today's product. Try to make that clear from the outset as well when starting a new thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2008 Wasn't that what I said? Yeah, I guess it is. For some reason I stopped at the second last sentence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sluggo 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2008 I'm not feeling the new direction. I mean this only means more clutter topics for non-noteworthy news. I've picked up more random info in that thread(s) than I did going to WO or wwe.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dandy 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2008 If it works the way it should, you will be able to pick up the news bits just by browsing the folder instead of scouring through one large thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2008 I'm not feeling the new direction. I mean this only means more clutter topics for non-noteworthy news. I've picked up more random info in that thread(s) than I did going to WO or wwe.com The new direction is roughly 2 hours old. Give it some time while we work out the kinks. Ideally, all the news and random info contained in General Discussion will find another place in the folder. This will save you time as it will no longer be necessary to read 25 pages to find a newsbit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2008 If it works the way it should, you will be able to pick up the news bits just by browsing the folder instead of scouring through one large thread. I dont get how anyone had to "scour" through one large thread unless you come here once a week or something. The discussion thread moved at a pace of about 3/4 of a page (well, for me and my 40 posts per page setup, so about 30 posts) a day at best, sometimes not even but a few a day. Now to do the same thing you'll have to open up like 15 threads to do the same. But whatever you know, because my primary issue with the whole thing still stands. The one thread at the top of the folder for all discussion wasnt hurting the WWF folder, the WWF's own product is. We used to get 10+ pages for a RAW thread and at least 2 for a SD thread..Now its like 4 or 5 for RAW and 2 for ECW but no one even ever bothers to start a SD thread so discussion ends up in the spoiler thread which is completely dumb. And yes, I know "oooh, DVRs mean people dont have to watch live" but very few extra people come in later and post about the show after they watched it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2008 I dont get how anyone had to "scour" through one large thread unless you come here once a week or something. The discussion thread moved at a pace of about 3/4 of a page (well, for me and my 40 posts per page setup, so about 30 posts) a day at best, sometimes not even but a few a day. Now to do the same thing you'll have to open up like 15 threads to do the same. The majority of posters don't read everything in General Discussion and many of them don't come to the folder everyday. The discussion folder is bogged down by endless nonsense. Once something sits for a day no one bothers to discuss it anymore. By the way, you don't have to open 15 threads. Just open the ones that you care about. But whatever you know, because my primary issue with the whole thing still stands. The one thread at the top of the folder for all discussion wasnt hurting the WWF folder, the WWF's own product is. We used to get 10+ pages for a RAW thread and at least 2 for a SD thread..Now its like 4 or 5 for RAW and 2 for ECW but no one even ever bothers to start a SD thread so discussion ends up in the spoiler thread which is completely dumb. And yes, I know "oooh, DVRs mean people dont have to watch live" but very few extra people come in later and post about the show after they watched it. Newsflash: WWE has sucked since sometime after WM X-7 and most people stopped watching by late 2002. Guess what? We still had plenty of discussion here because the posters that frequent this board grew up wrestling fans and want to still talk wrestling now and again. Those same people have no interest in reading 40 page threads with inane comments and minute news items. There are ideas floating for resurrecting the Raw and SD discussion. Let's take one thing at a time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2008 Quick correction - I apparently never did my own thread for a house show. Someone else took results I sent into websites and made a thread about it. http://forums.thesmartmarks.com/index.php?...c=26469&hl= Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Man in Blak 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2008 If there's such a large concern about non-worthy topics cluttering up the landscape, how would everybody feel about turning on topic moderation in this folder? In other words, people could still submit new topics, but those new topics would not be created on the board until a moderator (essentially acting as an editor here) would approve them. It would create some actual work that the new staff may not be willing to undertake, but it should also theoretically cut down on a lot of the threads that are useless/redundant/etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dandy 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2008 I'm sure those guys don't want that much of a hassle, and if no one was around, you would have to wait for a while to be able to discuss stuff going on. Edit---Also, it should only take a warning or so to curttail each poster from making an unnecessary thread should any of them be made. I don't think it's going to be a problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2008 If unnecessary topics are created, I'll close them. If certain posters show no discretion in starting topics, they'll get sent to the Gulag. Most of us are adults here and have been posting on the forums for years. The folder doesn't need a babysitter. As of right now, too many topics is the least of the forum's problems. Should an issue arise down the road we can re-evaluate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2008 Kudos to whoever (Cheech?) made my DVD thread's title look a bit smoother by dropping the year parameter AND adding the hilarious sub-title. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2008 Kudos to whoever (Cheech?) made my DVD thread's title look a bit smoother by dropping the year parameter AND adding the hilarious sub-title. No problem. Just in a day's work for the folder custodian. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2008 So... when does Piss do anything? Is he your relief? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dandy 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2008 I just told CWM this is the best the WWE folder has been in years, if not ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aero 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2008 It really seems like there's motivation behind the WWE Folder project this time. Dare I say it... it might actually work this time? It really is refreshing to see a number of new topics, though. So far, all the changes on the entire board really are great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Bullshiterica Report post Posted March 28, 2008 If there's such a large concern about non-worthy topics cluttering up the landscape, how would everybody feel about turning on topic moderation in this folder? In other words, people could still submit new topics, but those new topics would not be created on the board until a moderator (essentially acting as an editor here) would approve them. It would create some actual work that the new staff may not be willing to undertake, but it should also theoretically cut down on a lot of the threads that are useless/redundant/etc. That's not a bad idea, and the Topic Moderation thing caught my eye over on the control panel, but my worry is that it would slide the balance of power too far to the mods, when I'd rather slide it more toward everyone else. The idea of needing approval to start a thread strikes me as a little stick-up-the-ass for this board, but I'm not the one trying to Save The Wrestling Folders, so I'll officially defer to those who are charged with that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted March 31, 2008 Thanks for everyone's help and cooperation during the ownership/mod changes of the last week or so. I think there have been a lot of positive changes in the wrestling folders and discussion and interest seems to be on the rise. Some people were crediting me for that change. Really, there is no need for that. I didn't do anything other than some housecleaning. It's the posters bringing the quality. Anyways, I'd like to keep this thread open and used for discussion regarding the state of the folder. Use it for ideas or comments about the future. I am still trying to sort out some of the issues since the closing of the General Discussion thread. I've had an idea for a couple of new threads, but I wanted to toss them up for discussion first. I don't want the new folder to get cluttered with unnecessary topics. 1. "Newsbits Only Thread" - This thread would essentially function in the place of the minor newsbits that would show up in General Discussion. The thread would be used for minor news only... no discussion. If the item warrants more discussion, a separate thread could be opened. 2. "New School Questions Thread" - Think of this as the alter ego of the massively popular Old School Questions Thread in General Wrestling. Posters who no longer stay current on the wrestling scene could pop in with questions and get things clarified. Would also help cut down on the bumping of old threads. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dandy 0 Report post Posted April 1, 2008 Feel free to message me with any thoughts on things you would like to see in the folder. We can't accomodate everyone, but we will sure listen to suggestions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ravenbomb 0 Report post Posted April 1, 2008 Couldn't this have gone in the Comments thread? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted April 1, 2008 Oh, you cad! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sluggo 0 Report post Posted April 1, 2008 meh...I still miss the comments thread for those tiny news bites Share this post Link to post Share on other sites