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It is very hard to classify Professional Wrestling.

 

It is very much a unique thing. Beyond the "pseudo-sport" and beyond "low-brow entertainment" that the mainstream would classify it as. Beyond the "art" and "morality play" that wrestling fans try to intellectualize it as. Beyond that. What professional wrestling is, is... well... professional wrestling. There isn't much you can compare it to.

 

The people who call it a pseudo-sport, the people who call it low-brow entertainment, the people who call it art and a morality play... they all have something there, but it's not the whole story. The goal of sport is to present a competition with winners and losers, which wrestling does present. Wrestling is pretty simple to 'get' and it does pander to the lowest common denominator. Wrestling tells stories and takes a certain amount of skill to perform, so one could see it as an art. And there is the element of good vs. bad and morality in it, and it is put forth before an audience.

 

But there is one distinct element, and it's the most defining element of professional wrestling, that is not covered by these descriptions.

 

Wrestling is about the audience. It is about satisfying the audience, it is about connecting with the audience, it is about getting a bigger audience in your next show than the one you have on your last. It is about making money.

 

Sport is not about making money. It does make money, but the primary goal of the athletes is to win and score points. Art is about conveying a feeling, or a situation, or showing a degree of skill. You can't really compare a painting or a song with wrestling. You can compare some elements of a film or theatre with wrestling, but the goal of film and theatre is not really to make money - that's the goal of producers and studios - but the actors, director, writers, etc. their goals are not to make money, and they don't have the immediacy of the live audience. Those involved in the process may want to be telling a story, or to perform well, or to get an award or critical acclaim, but it's not about making money. I think this is where we start to pervert what wrestling is.

 

Wrestlers are not actors. They are not artists. There is not an OSCAR that they are looking for. Yet some rate them as if they are out to win one - or at least the wrestling equivalent of an OSCAR - which is unfair. I find it silly to criticize a wrestler for no selling something when that very no selling gets a strong reaction from the crowd - as it is the wrestlers job to get that reaction from the audience. "Selling" is a means of getting a reaction from the audience, just as storytelling is, just as cupping your hand to your ear is, just as doing a really cool move is, or working a sleeper hold, or payback spots, or even no selling. There are many ways to get that reaction, but it's the reaction that matters, not how they get it. Their performances are only as good as the reaction it gets from the live audience. That is what makes wrestling unique.

 

Which leads me to the most apt comparison I can make to professional wrestling. And that is...

 

Stand-up Comedy.

 

Comics are similiar to Wrestlers in this regard: Jokes are moves; There is build and pacing and even selling, and most importantly, there is the audience. A successful comedian, a good comedian, is one who does what?

 

Get the most laughs. Get's the loudest reaction.

 

Ditto Wrestlers.

 

A Comedian doesn't have a script to work from. Neither to wrestlers. Sure, there are preplanned spots for both, but if the audience isn't feeling it, then good Comedians will adapt. When to tell the right joke, to know when the right time to follow-up on a joke, to know how long to let the audience laugh for, to know when to leave the stage. That's what comedy is all about, that is what wrestling is all about. The ultimate goal is to make the audience laugh. It doesn't matter if their stories make sense, it doesn't matter if the Comedian contradicts what he said, it doesn't matter whether it is high brow or low brow, it doesn't matter if the Comedian uses a thousand F-bombs or none... as long as the Comedian gets that audience laughing... it doesn't matter. It only matters when the audience isn't laughing. It's silly to call a Comedian who has an audience eating out of the palm of his hand, to bad Comedian. You may not like it, you may not laugh, but that's where true objectivity comes in - even when it doesn't work for you, you can still admit to it working for others and give the Comedian credit for that.

 

Ditto Wrestlers.

 

Yet we don't evaluate Comics on things like logic. Which is a big problem with how fans look at wrestling.

 

It doesn't matter if the match doesn't make sense, it doesn't matter if someone forgets to sell the leg that was being worked on, it doesn't matter if they used high spots or garbage... as long as the Wrestlers get the audience into it... it doesn't matter. It only matters when the audience isn't into it. THEN you can look at things like no selling, like logic, like high spots and garbage. Bringing up those things to explain why a match doesn't work, when the match did work, doesn't make sense. Why it didn't work _for you_, sure, but then don't claim objectivity when you make those statements in the face of it working for the vast majority of those watching live.

 

We evaluate Comics on how they made us laugh and how they made the audience laugh. Not by how the story about the baby selling weed on the street doesn't make sense. I think the same should apply to Wrestler. Because the goals of the two are more similar than they are to any other performer out there.

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To cite an example about stuff not making sense, yet working because of the crowd reactions...

 

 

HHH vs Shawn Michaels- Non Sanctioned Street Fight Summerslam 2002.

 

 

I remember a ton of people online crucifying HBK for no selling the back work with his kip up and comeback. Did it make sense? Hell no it didn't. Did the audience at the bar I watched it live or the live audience in the arena care about HBK's non sensical no selling. No they didn't. They ate it up with a spoon. Despite the fact that I am not a huge fan of either guy's work since 2001, this match worked for the audience. It got a reaction that was positive. I've heard defenders of the match justify the no selling that HBK hulked up and that HHH hurt Shawn Michaels in the match, but HBK came out in the middle and was a new man or whatever (similar to the current Steve Borden/Sting deal).

 

You know what? Who cares. Crowd loved the match. At least the majority of them did. Of course, that doesn't mean we can't come online and criticize it, but you can't deny the crowd liked the match and didn't care about the blatant no selling.

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And I was one of those people. That doesn't really matter as much to me any more, though. It's fruitless and unreasonable to expect everything from a wrestling match, mainly because it's not the wrestlers objective and goals to do most of the things people expect from them and because there are so many ways to get the crowd into it, and who is to say which way is the right way and which way is the wrong way when something works?

 

I think we, as fans who are interested in the "smart" aspects of the profession, would be better off looking at why matches are successful rather than deconstructing why the match wasn't really as good as the fans thought it was.

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I think Hulk Hogan matches are a great case where from a technical standpoint, the matches fucking suck. The execution is usually half assed and/or sloppy. They are even more formulaic than your average match and talk about no-selling. If Hogan's run were to be booked today, there'd be a shitfit on the 'net about how Hogan is killing finishers left and right. Thing is, that was WWF's formula at the time. Run with one godlike guy that everyone knows is going to prevail in the end and since he had charisma for days, he could pull it off.

 

The important thing to remember is, this all drew tons of money. Sure, I really didn't care for it, but it worked. It did 3 essential things...1) It drew money 2) It sent fans home happy 3) They wanted more of it after it was over.

 

 

Up until about 2-3 years ago, I was very guilty of ripping matches apart that didn't fit a certain guideline of what I thought a match should be. Part of it was being exposed to puro, which is more realistic, and MMA. Then as I started to get more into Lucha, I started having fun with it, even though the action looks more choreographed than an Indy spotfest. Thing is, it worked. The crowd loved it and I could see why. Now, I'm more of a fan of what works versus what doesn't work. Some things work for the majority of fans that doesn't work for me, which is fine. It doesnt' mean those fans are idiots or are wrong with their feelings. It also doesn't mean there's something wrong with me. Sometimes, a crazy non sensical spotfest will work better on a certain day than a brilliantly worked match that is technically flawless.

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Hogan is pretty much the benchmark for me and I found myself rethinking a lot of my dispositions and how I thought about wrestling after watching him vs. Andre WM III a few months ago. He did what he was supposed to do, he got the fans to go nuts, he got their money. That's what workers do. He did that better than the vast majority of wrestlers in history yet he gets called a horrible worker because he didn't fit into peoples perverted ideas of what a worker is. I worker is someone who works the crowd, it's as simple as that. What Hogan did wasn't realistic and that's where he gets the criticism, but he still some how made it real to those who watched him, and that's what really matters.

 

Hogan/Andre was a great match. It just was. It was iconic, it had 80,000 people going nuts and jumping up and down. It worked. I tried to find out why. I tried to justify it's greatness to prove to those who said it was a horrible match that it wasn't. It's like solving a puzzle. Lots of people, those that say it was a bad match, will write it off as being a bad match and not put any thought into why it worked, but my Hogan bias pushed me to see that side.

 

I watched it, I tried to find an indepth story that I could point to and say "look! it's good! look at what they did!", but it was pretty light and not very substantive. They build Hogans come back throughout the match and it lasts for a minute and then its over. That's not Misawa/Kawada or anything. But then it occurred to me that they didn't have to be Misawa/Kawada to get the fans going. That wrestling matches didn't have to be elaborate or technical or in-depth. They just had to get the crowd going and that's what they did. The opening Hulk up and failed Body slam, which paid off with the slam at the end. Andres control segments and the moves he used were varied as not to bore everyone. The spots on the outside. The bearhug. The clothesline. It was sufficient to keep the crowd interested and wanting to see Hogans come back and for Hogans come back to pay off. So while, on paper, a clothesline and a bodyslam and a few headbuts don't make a great match, great matches aren't made on paper.

 

Hogans selling in that match wasn't particularly consistent, but that didn't matter. He did it well enough. There's no nuances and subtlety in Hogans work, but that doesn't matter and it shouldn't matter. It worked. When he got slammed down he'd reach out and scream. Not the greatest acting job, but the fans saw it as Hogan getting beat up by the big man and they bought it. Job done. Things work or they don't work. If they work, you can't tell me that they didn't, you can only tell me why they did. If that match was horrible, then it wouldn't have worked, and you could have used Hogans selling, the lack of moves, the lack of story, the short payoff, as reasons why it didn't work, but since it did, none of that shit matters.

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I'd like to agree with what you guys are saying, but I don't like overly fake stuff no matter what, and poor Andre just looked horrible by that point, he could literally barely move. It made me sad more than anything. I totally get what you're saying, though, because I have seen lots of matches that don't have a ton of psychology. Guys like Mr. Ganosuke are just great at doing awful horrible things to faces that get you going even if it doesn't set up his Fire Thunder Driver or whatever his finisher was, for example

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It's not necessarily psychology. Psychology is the match making sense, and in most cases, fans respond to that. Not all. It is not an absolute that matches have to make sense. It is, however, an absolute that matches have to get the crowd reacting/responding.

 

Andres work in that match is actually very good. Limited, yes, but watch how many ways he works over Hogan. It's amazing how Andre used a bunch of normally weak moves (headbuts, bearhugs, clubs, chops), but given the pacing, given his size, given the crowds willingness to eat it up, it came off so much better than it should have. To make up for Andres lack of mobility between spots, Hogan over-sells and shifts attention off slow-Andre and onto himself. The match is not perfect, but there are features that normally don't get picked up on.

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Great blog entry. It definitely seems like you're "getting it" in a way that maybe you didn't before. It's funny that the first reply was about HBK/HHH from SS 2002, because the first thing I thought of when I read the initial post was "that's why HBK/HHH was the best match of the last ten years".

 

Honestly, I bet less than 10% of the audience thought "that's unrealistic" when HBK kipped up after no-selling the back. They were all thinking "fuck yeah, HBK's alive and well and he's going to kick HHH's ass". The story had thoroughly engrossed the fans to the point that they were ready to believe pretty much anything put in front of them, and since they were believing it all anyway, then a superhuman comeback makes for a better story than a doggedly determined fight from someone who's unable to move.

 

I'm more "smart" than most, and it didn't really bother me a bit at the time. Furthermore, the marks at the bar were eating it up and responding in a way that I really haven't seen at any other time. Even though they knew it was fake, they were genuinely worried about HBK at the beginning, and they were yelling and screaming for him at the end in a way that they'd have been too self-conscious to do for 99% of the PPV matches put on by the WWF/WWE.

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Andres work in that match is actually very good. Limited, yes, but watch how many ways he works over Hogan. It's amazing how Andre used a bunch of normally weak moves (headbuts, bearhugs, clubs, chops), but given the pacing, given his size, given the crowds willingness to eat it up, it came off so much better than it should have. To make up for Andres lack of mobility between spots, Hogan over-sells and shifts attention off slow-Andre and onto himself. The match is not perfect, but there are features that normally don't get picked up on.

 

Agreed, Hogan busted his BUTT trying to make Andre look very good, and Andre wearing the singlet helped make him look healthier[look at him at Wrestlemania 1 or 2 and tell me that's a healthy man,I dare you] and since I've just seen 2 and 3, I was thinking of 2 mostly, sorry for not being more specific

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