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If you're looking for crap, Jingus, Bash At The Beach 2000 is way better. Besides the obvious Russo/Hogan debacle, The KISS Demon Vs Vampiro in a graveyard match, your girl Daffney Vs Ms. Hancock in a wedding gown match, Goldberg Vs Kevin Nash with Scott Hall's contract on the line, and Ralphus(!!!) So, which one do you guys want? Bash At The Beach 2000 or Fall Brawl 2000? Either one's fine by me.

Tomorrow night.

*DOUBLE POST* Speaking of WrestleCrap, I just saw that somebody posted Bash At The Beach 2000 in its entirety on Daily Motion.

Yeah but Fall Brawl 2000 is on Daily Motion. I think Fall Brawl is an ideal show for this type of thing. It's got enough good stuff on it so we won't completely waste two and a half hours but enough WrestleCrap so we can make plenty of wisecracks.

I can't do it tomorrow night since I'm doing real life stuff but I might be available Thursday. I think a month is too long. It just sounded catchier than Tape of Every Other Week. Biweekly would be ideal.

Dude's probably just a huge film snob. I don't like them myself but I'd gladly take a snob over a shill.

To be fair- when was the last time he's done one? *checks IMDb* I Spy and Showtime were his last two. I admit those two were sort of duds but it's been six years since he's done one. That's a long time in Hollywood. I think an R rated Eddie comedy could be huge. He still has "it" somewhere buried inside him.

You know I don't agree with the guy's views on Iron Man (Haven't seen Hancock...or The Dark Knight obviously) but aren't film critics hired to...you know...have an opinion?

Shatner was in Showtime right? I vaguely recally my dad really liking it. Boy, financial success or not, Eddie Murphy sure has had his share of incredibly forgettable movies over the years.

The one vegan I knew well was a pretty chill dude. We sat next to each other during first block cafeteria study hall during my junior year of high school. We mostly discussed the current Mark Trail storyline and told a lot of inside jokes (Usually involving the cafeteria staff inadvertantly putting live hagfish into the day's lunch and the ensuing pandemonium). As you can tell, I was very cool in high school but that's neither here nor there.

That second comment MVP made doesn't even make sense. Was it supposed to be insult?

I didn't know a thing about that movie until a thread on another board mentioned it last weekend. The plot doesn't sound like it would make for a good five minute sketch let alone a ninety minute movie. Hell, I can't even remember the sketch it was based on. It's another stop on Cuba Gooding Jr's train ride to obscurity.

The non-spoiler (for Venk) card for In Your House IV We get (in order) Hunter Hearst Helmsley Vs Fatu The Smokin' Gunns Vs The 123 Kid and Razor Ramon for the WWF Tag Team titles Goldust Vs Marty Jannetty Yokozuna Vs King Mabel Dean Douglas Vs Razor Ramon for The WWF Intercontinental title The British Bulldog Vs Diesel for the WWF World title Yep, not a very good show at all. I don't remember it (haven't seen the show in ten years) but the tag team title match might not be bad...

Man, I wanted Brad as my JTTS. Damn you bps!

In case you're curious, these are the match listings for the two Coliseum tapes being shown next month courtesy of The History of WWE website... World Tour 92 (8/27/92) This is one of the few Coliseum Videos from the early 90s that I haven't seen (perhaps I've blocked out of my memory). The only matches that don't sound horrible are Bret/Martel and Macho Man/HBK (and I've heard from various sources that the latter is a huge let down). The tape with the cool Texas Tornado/Ric Flair match I was mentioning earlier was the very similar titled Wrestling World Tour. World Tour 96 (1997) This tape is boring as hell but at the same time, mildly interesting. I don't remember that half of the matches featured Ahmed Johnson. I guess that speaks for the quality of the tape. The October '95 In Your House...that's the one with Diesel Vs The British Bulldog main eventing, right? Good lord, that show is almost as bad as King of The Ring '95. In fact, pretty much the only reasons that it isn't is it's two hours instead of three and there's slightly less King Mabel. The discussion thread for that one on here should be interesting. Edit: Fixed for anyone who didn't want to be spoiled like poor Venk was. Didn't know anybody would be so touchy about fifteen year old Coliseum Video results.

I thought 911's name in WCW was Tombstone. Early '00 WCW did produce a few more decent matches than The Observer gave credit for. Note the emphasis on a few.But again none were more than **1/2-***. While it paled in comparison to the battles they had in their heydays, I remember The Terry Funk-Ric Flair Texas Death Match at SuperBrawl X was decent. The stretcher match between The Mamalukes and David Flair there was pretty fun. I haven't seen it since I first watched the PPV eight years ago but I thought Fit Finlay Vs Vampiro at Uncensored 2000 was one of Vampiro's better matches and the MOTN (Not saying much really). There was also the occassional decent TV match, usually on Saturday Night. Three Count and The Jung Dragons started their series. I remember a decent TAFKAPI-Mike Modest match on the Spring Break Nitro back when TAFKAPI had the title and Modest upset him (it was non title obviously). Of course, it being WCW, the next new Nitro was Vince Russo and Bischoff's return and we didn't see Mike Modest again until early '01 when he and Christopher Daniels were getting pummeled by Scott Steiner. Again, all small beans. And I'm not sure if there's another three month period in professional wrestling history where a major federation doesn't have a match that isn't more than ***. Except maybe the last year or so of AWA and by then, they weren't major league by any stretch of the imagination.

Wikipedia says Big Al was Al Green but I know for a fact that isn't true. Big Al was a lot younger and was way taller than the future Dog. For some reason, I could have sworn Big Al was in ECW for a little while under a name before his inauspicious WCW run.

World Tour 1992 was one of the tapes I rented most as a kid. I'm not sure why but IIRC there was a cool Texas Tornado/Ric Flair match on it. World Tour '96 on the other hand is a pretty awful tape from what I remember. There's even a Bret Hart/Steve Austin match that manages to be not very good.

As I told you earlier on AIM, I really dug this idea and I'm surprised (and mildly worried) that you put this much thought into fantasy booking a storyline involving Jim Powers and Joe Gomez. I've always wanted to see a journeyman tries to work his way up in the world of wrestling storyline played completely straight. I'm not sure if that's ever happened- at least not in WWE/F or WCW.

See I think you're wrong RE: Booker. Was Booker seen as a contender in early 2000? No, you're probably right but like Vampiro, I think the fans were willing to buy into Booker being a main eventer given the proper buildup (IE NOT randomly putting him in a WCW World title match ala Bash at The Beach 2000). In fact, the WCW fans did sort of buy into Booker T's surprised WCW World title run if only because of the sheer randomness of it, they didn't fully realize the potential of it. And Booker was no worse off in January 2000 than he was in July. In fact, he was probably better off since he hadn't completely undergone that awful feud over the letter "T" and the insipid G.I. Bro gimmick was months away. Was Booker really more of a contender in July of '00 than he was in January? Even though my scenario would be kind of rushed, it's certainly less hasty than what was presented six months later. Booker slowly gains momentum through out the night and the announcers could hype up him having the night of his career. He's captializing on his opponent's mistakes at the right time and he makes it through the night with a combination of luck, ring smarts, and sheer determination. I think by the end of the Sid match in the scenario I presented, the audience would buy into him as WCW's newest main eventer. He'd certainly be a better option than a departing Benoit and he'd be a way better option than Sid. Sid's a fine transition champion but what WCW needed that night was a man who could carry the torch and represent what was supposed to be a new era in the company. I think Booker could have been that man. You could talk about his troubled youth, how he found an outlet for his anger and a way to get himself and his brother out of the projects through wrestling, the years he spent working his way up his the rankings (The Tag Team, The Television), and his struggle to break into WCW's upper echelon. Play him up as the ultimate underdog and company man who reached the top in momentous fashion. Does someone have to be an established contender before hand to win a World title? More often than not. But in rare exceptions it does work. Was Bret Hart an established threat to the WWF World title in September '92? CM Punk had The Money In The Bank but did anybody see him winning the World title in a matter of weeks when he was jobbing to The Miz a little bit back? And besides,with my scenario, The SuperBrawl X print advertisements would make sense!

I was eyeing Koko too. Underrated worker. One of those guys like Tito who people didn't really appreciate because they were jobbing for the majority of their most notable run in the wrestling spotlight.

For a second, I thought Drury had gotten the last laugh on all of us and had gotten what would have been the steal of the draft by far...Then I saw that Hawk picked Taz almost twenty rounds ago. For some reason, when I searched Taz (or Tazz) in the search topic function, nothing came up. Easy to see how the poor guy got confused.

Yeah, I factored in the notion of guys wanting their release and the guys who were out with injuries at the time (Jarrett, Scott Hall). I don't think any of the guys in my tournament asked for a release except for Benoit and he jobbed in the quarterfinals. I'm not sure I follow what you're saying, cabbage. You say Sid Vs Benoit isn't all that bad of an idea given the circumstances but then you spend the next paragraph talking about why it's a bad idea. Now was Kevin Sullivan the booker going into Souled Out 2000? Did Benoit request his release before the show?

*NERDY FANTASY BOOKING POST ALERT* OK, I was chatting with Dandy on AIM and I was expounding on a fantasy booking idea I had regarding The Main Event/World Title match at Souled Out 2000 and he told me I should post it here. Tell me what you think about it. Positive or negative feedback is welcome, just make it constructive. At the beginning of the show Terry Funk comes out and runs down the changes in the card. Bret Hart is out indefinitely and he's being stripped of the WCW World title. To determine the new champion, Funk says there will be a one night only,eight man tournament for the WCW World title. The participants will be the Top Seven contenders for the title and the winner of a 20 man battle royal will fill out the eighth slot. The battle royal opens the show. All of the second-tier wrestlers of WCW duke it out for an opportunity of a lifetime. Eventually it comes down to longtime veteran Booker T and the towering newcomer The Wall. Booker T manages to win the match after The Wall misses a charge and the momentum carries him over the top rope. So after the match, the bracket is announced and we got; 1. Chris Benoit Vs 8. Booker T 4. Diamond Dallas Page Vs 5. Buff Bagwell 2. Sid Vs 7. Tank Abbott 3. The Total Package Vs 6. Vampiro We have one or two non tournament matches and then we get the first quarterfinal... Sid Vs Tank Abbott. It's an extremely hard hitting, extremely short match. The Ron Lyle Vs Georger Foreman of professional wrestling if you weel. Sid goes over with The Powerbomb. Next The Total Package Vs Vampiro. Vampiro comes thisclose to edging out the win but Luger manages to squeeze out the victory through nefarious means. The announcers crow about how Vampiro should have won, the wrong man advanced, etc. Then we get Chris Benoit Vs Booker T. The most competitive match of the first round with Booker barely going over cleanly. After, the two men shake hands. Diamond Dallas Page Vs Buff Bagwell would be pretty much the same match they had at Souled Out 2000 albeit slightly truncated. DDP picks up the win in a screwy finish involving Kimberly. So with that the semi-finals are; 4. Diamond Dallas Page Vs 8. Booker T 2. Sid Vs 3. The Total Package Sid goes over Lex Luger easily in under a minute. Sid manages to catch Luger off guard during his elaborate entrance and quickly dispatches him with the Chokeslam and Powerbomb Booker T and DDP have a relatively short (six or seven minutes) but extremely competitive match. Booker wins by the skin of his teeth but during the process of the match, he gets injured. There'll be a backstage vignette where a doctor warns Booker not to compete and he could be risking his career, yada, yada, yada but Booker won't have any of it and he wants to compete in the biggest match of his career. The doctor doesn't know if he'll be able to clear Booker medically. The announcers discuss the final. They bring up Booker T and Sid's history how Sid helped bring Booker T into the company seven years before. They put over the fact that Booker's been with the company longer than almost anybody and how he's been a loyal WCW employee through and through and how he's slowly worked his way up the rankings and finally earned his World title shot in the most difficult way imaginable. So Sid comes to the ring first and everyone is still unsure whether Booker T. Terry Funk comes out and tells Sid that the match may be a forfeit and he may have to award the title to Sid. Sid won't have any of it though and he doesn't want to win the title without a fight. He tells Funk that he'll take personal responsibility for the punishment he inflicts on Booker. Sid's no wordsmith but ideally, this promo would be simultaneously noble and vaguely heelish. Finally, Booker T comes limping out from the back.So the match starts and for the first half of the match, Sid dominates and is unleashing all of his arsenal on Booker. Just brutalizing him. But somehow, Booker is incredibly resillient and just can't be put away. Sid becomes incredibly frustrated and that frustration starts leading to mistakes. Slowly, Booker T starts getting more and more offense. Sid becomes even more frustrated and starts resorting to heelish tactics (Throwing him into the ringsteps, into the ringside barricade, chokeslamming him on the floor, what have you) but he still can't manage to put Booker away. Sid manages to hit Booker T with the Powerbomb but Booker with his last ounce of strength puts his foot on the ropes at the 2.99999999999 mark.At this point, Sid is exhausted as well but Booker's running on fumes. Sid dishes out some more punishment and Booker's nearly defenseless at this point after the powerbomb. Sid throws him into the turnbuckle and goes for a running clothesline but Booker somehow manages to get out of the way and Sid eats turnbuckle. Booker T manages to summon something within to hit The Bookend on Sid out of nowhere and he gets the pin. All of the mid-card babyfaces come out and congratulate Booker. Booker holds up The WCW World title and collapses in exhaustion. Booker gets taken out on a stretcher, still holding the WCW World title in his hands.When Sid comes to his senses, he beats up the referee. I know he had just done a face turn like a month before but I like Sid way better as a heel. Besides, it's a reboot anyways so it doesn't really matter. Then you proceed to do a Bret Hart type reign with Booker T. After having him out with the injury for a week or two, I'd have him win competitive matches against mid-carders every week on Nitro and Thunder, leading up to a rematch with Sid at SuperBrawl X. Anyways, I think it's more interesting and intelligent way to crown a new champion and a better way to make Booker T a star than what they did a couple of months later at Bash At The Beach. Again, all feedback on my idea is welcome.

Tony Atlas is scheduled to main event an indy show at a local bar on Wednesday against Pierre Carl Oullette. I have a feeling, he's not going to make it. I'll never see him get his revenge on that evil Quebecois!