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Anybody have any idea where Jack Bauer is? I said I'd wait until the end of the weekend before I give away his team. Does anybody think we should wait longer?

Darn, that would have been my pick! I could go with one of the powerhouse teams from the 60s or 70s, but instead I'll go for something more interesting: The 1989 "Why Not?" Orioles. 1 win short of the playoffs coming off the worst season in franchise history.

That's the only thing I never did like give a week's notice to when we're starting I just sort of assumed everyone would be checking the thread and be ready to participate. He hasn't posted for a week, I've sent him an email message through his given email in his profile. I'll give until the end of the weekend for him to show back up, if he doesn't I think the fairest thing to do would be to give his team away and a new manager would take over his draft position and keeper selections. What does everyone think of that idea? And this reminds me, if like iggy, you know you're going to be gone and offline for a certain amount of time, please just let me know and I'd be happy to wait until your return.

Hah, I know. I've PMed Jack Bauer, he hasn't posted since Feb 1st. So...if anyone has any outside contact info for him, tell him to get his BUTT over here!

Done. Continue picks and discussion in this thread though and we'll have the other one as an updated reference.

Keepers: Aaron Harang (Round 11) Adam LaRoche (Pit - 1B)- ROUND 14 Albert Pujols (Round 1) Alex Rodriguez (Round 1) Alfonso Soriano (Round 2) Anibal Sanchez (Not Drafted) Aramis Ramirez (Round 3) BJ Ryan (Round 5) BJ Upton (Round 18) Bobby Abreu (Round 1) Boof Bonser (Not Drafted) Brad Lidge (Round 4) Brandon Webb (Ari - SP)- ROUND 4 Brett Myers (Round 4) Brian McCann (Round 18) Bronson Arroyo (Round 16) Carl Crawford (Round 1) Carlos Beltran (Round 2) Carlos Guillén (Det - SS)- ROUND 9 Carlos Zambrano (ChC - SP)- ROUND 2 Chase Utley (Round 2) Chipper Jones (Round 5) Chone Figgins (Round 2) Chris Capuano (Round 9) Chris Carpenter (Round 1-pushed to Round 4) Chris Ray (Round 11) Cole Hamels (Not Drafted) Dan Uggla (Not Drafed) David Ortiz (Round 1 David Wright (Round 1) Delmon Young (Round 16) Derrek Lee (ChC - 1B)- ROUND 1 Edwin Encarnacion (Round 17) Ervin Santana (Round 9) Frank Thomas (Round 17) Garrett Atkins (Round 8) Grady Sizemore (Round 3) Hanley Ramirez (Not Drafted) Huston Street (Round 4) Jake Peavy (Round 1-pushed to Round 3) Jermaine Dye (CWS - OF)- ROUND 10 Jim Thome (Round 7) Joe Mauer (Round 3) Joel Zumaya (Not Drafted) Johan Santana (Round 1) John Smoltz (Round 4) Johnny Damon (Round 4) Jonathan Papelbon (Round 10) José Contreras (Round 7) Jose Reyes (Round 2) Josh Johnson (Not Drafted) Juan Pierre (Round 3) Justin Morneau (Round 8) Justin Verlander (Round 19) Lance Berkman (Round 3) Manny Ramirez (Round 1) Mariano Rivera (Round 4) Mark Buehrle SP (Round 3) Matt Cain (Round 8) Matt Holliday (Round 7) Michael Young (Round 1) Miguel Cabrera (Round 1- pushed to Round 4) Miguel Tejada (Round 1) Nick Johnson (Round 10) Nick Markakis (Not Drafted) Pat Burrell (Round 5) Paul Konerko (Round 3) Pedro Martinez (Round 1-pushed to Round 2) Rafael Furcal (Round 3) Rich Harden (Round 2) Rickie Weeks (Round 6) Roy Halladay (Round 2) Roy Oswalt (Round 1) Ryan Howard (Round 2) Scott Kazmir (Round 8) Scott Rolen (StL - 3B)- ROUND 5 Tom Gordon (Phi - RP)- ROUND 10 Travis Hafner (Round 3) Vernon Wells (Round 4) Vladimir Guerrero (Round 1)

Will be updated in this thread, continue posting in the other thread though when its your turn to pick though. I will follow with the list of taken players. Round 20 1. iggymcfly - Cranky Old Men: Mark Prior 2. Cena's Writer - Infinie93Intensity: Lastings Milledge 3. Stephen Joseph- John Galt Express: Craig Biggio 4. Verne Gagne- Landfall Jacobites: Andy LaRoche 5. Marvinsalunatic- NuclearChinlocks: Kerry Wood 6. Kingofthe909- Kings of Crunk: Dmitri Young 7. Deep_Thought- Stay the Course: Placido Palanco 8. Razaztec- Midcard 4 Life: Joaquin Benoit 9. Harley Quinn: Trever Miller 10. Fökai - Heavy Lumber: Juan Uribe 12. Bored- Rebels of Oakland: Shannon Stewart 13. Krankor- The Random Hero: Christian Guzman 14. Precious Roy- Formally jwpeer: Mark Loretta 15. Canadian Chris- Team Canada: Fernando Nieve Round 20 Keepers: treble Uggla, Dan thepinjockey Zumaya, Joel MJ Styles Johnson, Josh Will Scarlet Sanchez, Aribal Cuban Linx Ramirez, Hanley Cartman Hamels, Cole Round 19 1. Canadian Chris- Team Canada: Alexi Casilla 2. Precious Roy- Formally jwpeer: Kyle Davies 3. Krankor- The Random Hero: Garret Anderson 4. Bored- Rebels of Oakland: Rafael Betancourt 5. Cuban Linx- Scott Boras Allstars: Jim Edmonds 6. Fökai - Heavy Lumber: Matt Murton 7. HarleyQuinn: Dan Johnson 8. Razaztec- Midcard 4 Life: Mike Stanton 9. Deep_Thought- Stay the Course: J.J. Hardy 10. Kingofthe909- Kings of Crunk: Omar Vizquel 11. Marvinsalunatic- NuclearChinlocks: Wade Miller 12. Cartman- Pawtucket Patriots: Ryan Madson 13. treble- Brockvegas Posse: Tomo Ohka 14. Verne Gagne- Landfall Jacobites: Edgar Gonzalez 15. Stephen Joseph- John Galt Express: chad qualls 16. Cena's Writer - Infinie93Intensity: Ryan Dempster 17. iggymcfly - Cranky Old Men: Jon Rauch Round 19 Keepers: thepinjockey Verlander, Justin MJ Styles Markakis, Nick Will Scarlet Bonser, Boof Round 18 1. iggymcfly - Cranky Old Men: Nick Punto 2. Cena's Writer - Infinie93Intensity: Kevin Gregg 3. Stephen Joseph- John Galt Express: Jeff Baker 4. Verne Gagne- Landfall Jacobites: Fausto Carmona 5. treble- Brockvegas Posse: James Shields 6. thepinjockey - Serenity: Andrew Miller 7. Cartman- Pawtucket Patriots: Jose Bautista 8. Kingofthe909- Kings of Crunk: Jason Kendall 9. Deep_Thought- Stay the Course: Dennys Reyes 10. MJ Styles- Rockbirds: Jason Hirsh 11. Razaztec- Midcard 4 Life: Tom Gorzelanny 12. HarleyQuinn: Claudio Vargas 13. Fökai - Heavy Lumber: Hector Carrasco 14. Cuban Linx- Scott Boras Allstars: Esteban Loaiza 15. Bored- Rebels of Oakland: Jorge Julio 16. Krankor- The Random Hero: Luis Castillo 17. Precious Roy- Formally jwpeer: Jose Guillen 18. Canadian Chris- Team Canada: Jose Vidro Round 18 Keepers: Will Scarlet Upton, BJ Marvinsalunatic McCann, Brian Round 17 1. Canadian Chris- Team Canada: Jason Kubel 2. Precious Roy- Formally jwpeer: Zack Greinke 3. Krankor- The Random Hero: Cliff Floyd 4. Bored- Rebels of Oakland: Mark Ellis 5. Cuban Linx- Scott Boras Allstars: Justin Duchscherer 6. Will Scarlet- Komijul: Ambiorix Burgos 7. Fökai - Heavy Lumber: Lance Cormier 8. HarleyQuinn: Orlando Hernandez 9. MJ Styles- Rockbirds: Mike MacDougal 10. Deep_Thought- Stay the Course: Carl Pavano 10. Kingofthe909- Kings of Crunk: Kyle Farnsworth 12. Marvinsalunatic- NuclearChinlocks: Nook Logan 13. Cartman- Pawtucket Patriots: Joel Pineiro 14. thepinjockey - Serenity: Fransisco Liriano 15. treble- Brockvegas Posse: Aaron Hill 16. Verne Gagne- Landfall Jacobites: Miguel Olivo 17. Stephen Joseph- John Galt Express: Scott Proctor 18. iggymcfly - Cranky Old Men: Aaron Heilman Round 17 Keepers: Cena's Writer Thomas, Frank Razaztec Encarnacion, Edwin Round 16 1. Cena's Writer - Infinie93Intensity: Andy Marte 2. Stephen Joseph- John Galt Express: Mike Pelfrey 3. Verne Gagne- Landfall Jacobites: Kelly Johnson 4. treble- Brockvegas Posse: Jose Lopez 5. thepinjockey - Serenity: bobby crosby 6. Cartman- Pawtucket Patriots: Emil Brown 7. Marvinsalunatic- NuclearChinlocks: Danys Baez 8. Kingofthe909- Kings of Crunk: Chris Duffy 9. Deep_Thought- Stay the Course: Joe Blanton 10. Razaztec- Midcard 4 Life: Chad Billingsley 11. HarleyQuinn: Casey Blake 12. Fökai - Heavy Lumber: Jeff Suppan 13. Will Scarlet- Komijul: Mike Lowell 14. Cuban Linx- Scott Boras Allstars: Mark DeRosa 15. Bored- Rebels of Oakland: Aaron Cook 16. Krankor- The Random Hero: Mike Maroth 17. Precious Roy- Formally jwpeer: Salomon Torres 18. Canadian Chris- Team Canada: Oliver Perez Round 16 Keepers: Iggmcfly Arroyo, Bronson MJ Styles Young, Delmon ROUND 15 1. Canadian Chris- Team Canada: Akinori Iwamura 2. Precious Roy- Formally jwpeer: Shane Victorino 3. Krankor- The Random Hero: Johnny Estrada 4. Bored- Rebels of Oakland: Scott Thorman 5. Cuban Linx- Scott Boras Allstars: Kenny Lofton 6. Will Scarlet- Komijul: Marcus Thame 7. Fökai - Heavy Lumber: Tim Lincecum 8. HarleyQuinn: Pat Neshek 9. Razaztec- Midcard 4 Life: Chris Burke 10. MJ Styles- Rockbirds: Gil Meche 11. Deep_Thought- Stay the Course: Paul Lo Duca 12. Kingofthe909- Kings of Crunk: Bartolo Colon 13. Marvinsalunatic- NuclearChinlocks: Wes Helms 14. Cartman- Pawtucket Patriots: Willy Mo Pena 15. thepinjockey - Serenity: Dan Wheeler 16. treble- Brockvegas Posse: Tim Wakefield 17. Verne Gagne- Landfall Jacobites: Brian Wilson 18. Stephen Joseph- John Galt Express: Dioner Navarro 19. Cena's Writer - Infinie93Intensity: Ryan Church 20. iggymcfly - Cranky Old Men: Clay Hensley Round 14 1. iggymcfly - Cranky Old Men: Juan Rivera 2. Cena's Writer - Infinie93Intensity: Cla Meredith 3. Stephen Joseph- John Galt Express: Mike Jacobs 4. Verne Gagne- Landfall Jacobites: Jason Bartlett 5. treble- Brockvegas Posse: Ted Lilly 6. thepinjockey - Serenity: Jason Varitek 7. Cartman- Pawtucket Patriots: Reed Johnson 8. Marvinsalunatic- NuclearChinlocks: Aaron Rowand 9. Kingofthe909- Kings of Crunk: Dustin Pedroia 10. Deep_Thought- Stay the Course: Brandon Inge 11. MJ Styles- Rockbirds: Shea Hillenbrand 12. Razaztec- Midcard 4 Life: Pedro Feliz 13. Fökai - Heavy Lumber: Matt Morris 14. Will Scarlet- KomijulV: Luke Scott 15. Cuban Linx- Scott Boras Allstars: Gerald Laird 16. Bored- Rebels of Oakland: James Loney 17. Krankor- The Random Hero: Gary Matthews Jr 18. Precious Roy- Formally jwpeer: Jason Isringhausen 19. Canadian Chris- Team Canada: Bob Howry Round 14 Keepers: HarleyQuinn LaRoche, Adam ROUND 13 1. Canadian Chris- Team Canada: Mike Napoli 2. Precious Roy- Formally jwpeer: Milton Bradley 3. Krankor- The Random Hero: Kei Igawa 4. Bored- Rebels of Oakland: Corey Hart 5. Cuban Linx- Scott Boras Allstars: Andre Ethier 6. Will Scarlet- Komijul: Willy Taveras 7. Fökai - Heavy Lumber: AJ Pierzynski 8. HarleyQuinn: Jacque Jones 9. Razaztec- Midcard 4 Life: Adam Loewen 10. MJ Styles- Rockbirds: Troy Tulowitzki 11. Deep_Thought- Stay the Course: Scott Podsednik 12. Kingofthe909- Kings of Crunk: Cliff Lee 13. Marvinsalunatic- NuclearChinlocks: Vicente Padilla 14. Cartman- Pawtucket Patriots: Jose Capellan 15. thepinjockey - Serenity: Roger Clemens 16. treble- Brockvegas Posse: Jeremy Hermida 17. Verne Gagne- Landfall Jacobites: Ryan Langerhans 18. Stephen Joseph- John Galt Express: Geoff Jenkins 19. Cena's Writer - Infinie93Intensity: Brandon McCarthy 20. iggymcfly - Cranky Old Men: Armando Benitez ROUND 12 1. iggymcfly - Cranky Old Men: Juan Rincon 2. Cena's Writer - Infinie93Intensity: Melvin Mora 3. Stephen Joseph- John Galt Express: Kiko Calero 4. Verne Gagne- Landfall Jacobites: Taylor Tankersley 5. treble- Brockvegas Posse: Brad Wilkerson 6. thepinjockey - Serenity: Moises Alou 7. Cartman- Pawtucket Patriots: Scott Linebrink 8. Marvinsalunatic- NuclearChinlocks: Jorge Cantu 9. Kingofthe909- Kings of Crunk: Marcus Giles 10. Deep_Thought- Stay the Course: Mike González 11. MJ Styles- Rockbirds: Daniel Cabrera 12. Razaztec- Midcard 4 Life: Craig Monroe 13. HarleyQuinn: Gregg Zaun 14. Fökai - Heavy Lumber: Rafael Soriano 15. Will Scarlet- Komijul: Jake Westbrook 16. Cuban Linx- Scott Boras Allstars: Ryan Shealy 17. Bored- Rebels of Oakland: Doug Davis 18. Krankor- The Random Hero: Akinori Otsuka 19. Precious Roy- Formally jwpeer: Greg Maddux 20. Canadian Chris- Team Canada: Kevin Kouzmanoff ROUND 11 1. Krankor- The Random Hero: Todd Jones 2. Bored- Rebels of Oakland: Ronny Paulino 3. Cuban Linx- Scott Boras Allstars: Curtis Granderson 4. Will Scarlet- Komijul: Brad Hawpe 5. Fökai - Heavy Lumber: Khalil Greene 6. HarleyQuinn: Dave Roberts 7. Razaztec- Midcard 4 Life: John Maine 8. MJ Styles- Rockbirds: Bob Wickman 9. Deep_Thought- Stay the Course: Joe Borowski 10. Kingofthe909- Kings of Crunk: Tom Glavine 11. Marvinsalunatic- NuclearChinlocks: Chris Duncan 12. Cartman- Pawtucket Patriots: Nate Robertson 13. thepinjockey - Serenity: Chris Iannetta 14. treble- Brockvegas Posse: Scott Shields 15. Verne Gagne- Landfall Jacobites: Wilson Betemit 16. Stephen Joseph- John Galt Express: Rich Aurillia 17. Cena's Writer - Infinie93Intensity: Anthony Reyes Round 11 Keepers: Iggmcfly Harang, Aaron Canadian Chris Ray, Chris Precious Roy Dye, Jermaine ROUND 10 1. iggymcfly - Cranky Old Men: Noah Lowry 2. Stephen Joseph- John Galt Express: Matt Garza 3. Verne Gagne- Landfall Jacobites: David DeJesus 4. treble- Brockvegas Posse: Ian Snell 5. thepinjockey - Serenity: Conor Jackson 6. Cartman- Pawtucket Patriots: Tadahito Iguchi 7. Marvinsalunatic- NuclearChinlocks: José Valverde 8. Kingofthe909- Kings of Crunk: Corey Patterson 9. Deep_Thought- Stay the Course: Ken Griffey Jr. 10. MJ Styles- Rockbirds: Aubrey Huff 11. Razaztec- Midcard 4 Life: Ivan Rodriguez 12. HarleyQuinn: Jonathan Broxton 13. Fökai - Heavy Lumber: Ty Wigginton 14. Will Scarlet- Komijul: Zack Duke 15. Cuban Linx- Scott Boras Allstars: Kevin Millwood 16. Krankor- The Random Hero: Octavio Dotel 17. Canadian Chris- Team Canada: Eric Byrnes Round 10 Keepers: Cena's Writer Papelbon, Jonathon Bored Johnson, Nick Precious Roy Gordon, Tom ROUND 9 1. Precious Roy: Michael Barrett 2. Krankor- The Random Hero: John Patterson 3. Bored- Rebels of Oakland: Jhonny Peralta 4. Cuban Linx- Scott Boras Allstars: Kelvim Escobar 5. Will Scarlet- Komijul: Russell Martin 6. Fökai - Heavy Lumber: Kenny Rogers 7. Razaztec- Midcard 4 Life: Jeremy Sowers 8. MJ Styles- Rockbirds: Chad Tracy 9. Deep_Thought- Stay the Course: Brad Penny 10. Kingofthe909- Kings of Crunk: Tim Hudson 11. Cartman- Pawtucket Patriots: David Ross 12. thepinjockey - Serenity: Carlos Quentin 13. treble- Brockvegas Posse: Mike Cameron 14. Verne Gagne- Landfall Jacobites: Jeff Francis 15. Stephen Joseph- John Galt Express: Jason Jennings 16. Cena's Writer - Infinie93Intensity: Orland Cabrera 17. iggymcfly - Cranky Old Men: Jeff Kent Round 9 Keepers: Canadian Chris Santana, Ervin Marvinsalunatic Capuano, Chris HarleyQuinn Guillen, Carlos ROUND 8 1. iggymcfly - Cranky Old Men: Jeff Francoeur 2. Cena's Writer - Infinie93Intensity: Torii Hunter 3. thepinjockey - Serenity: Rich Hill 4. Cartman- Pawtucket Patriots: Nomar Garciaparra 5. Marvinsalunatic- NuclearChinlocks: Javier Vázquez 6. Kingofthe909- Kings of Crunk: Austin Kearns 7. Deep_Thought- Stay the Course: Jon Garland 8. MJ Styles- Rockbirds: Edgar Renteria 9. Razaztec- Midcard 4 Life: Homer Baily 10. HarleyQuinn- Kevin Youkilis 11. Fökai - Heavy Lumber: Coco Crisp 12. Cuban Linx- Scott Boras Allstars: Francisco Cordero 13. Bored- Rebels of Oakland: Adam Wainwright 14. Krankor- The Random Hero: Hank Blalock 15. Precious Roy- Formally jwpeer: Morgan Ensberg 16. Canadian Chris- Team Canada: Ryan Freel Round 8 Keepers: Stephan Joseph Cain, Matt Verne Gagne Atkins, Garrett treble Kazmir, Scott Will Scarlet Morneau, Justin ROUND 7 1. Canadian Chris- Team Canada: Dave Bush 2. Precious Roy- Formally jwpeer: Andy Pettite 3. Krankor- The Random Hero: A.J. Burnett 4. Bored- Rebels of Oakland: Brian Giles 5. Cuban Linx- Scott Boras Allstars: Alex Gordon 6. Will Scarlet- Komijul: Chien-Ming Wang 7. Fökai - Heavy Lumber: Rocco Baldelli 8. HarleyQuinn-Formally : Michael Cuddyer 9. Razaztec- Midcard 4 Life: Magglio Ordonez 10. MJ Styles- Rockbirds: Derek Lowe 11. Kingofthe909- Kings of Crunk: Brian Fuentes 12. Marvinsalunatic- NuclearChinlocks: Adrian Beltre 13. Cartman- Pawtucket Patriots: Jonny Gomes 14. treble- Brockvegas Posse: Kenji Johjima 15. Verne Gagne- Landfall Jacobites: Chris B. Young 16. Cena's Writer - Infinie93Intensity: Orlando Hudson 17. iggymcfly - Cranky Old Men: Eric Chavez Round 7 Keepers Stephan Joseph Holliday, Matt thepinjockey Thome, Jim Deep_Thought Contreras, Jose ROUND 6 1. iggymcfly - Cranky Old Men: Felipe Lopez 2. Cena's Writer - Infinie93Intensity: Jorge Posada 3. Stephen Joseph- John Galt Express: Brandon Phillips 4. Verne Gagne- Landfall Jacobites: Prince Fielder 5. treble- Brockvegas Posse: Raul Ibanez 6. thepinjockey - Serenity: Howie Kendrick 7. Cartman- Pawtucket Patriots: Joe Crede 8. Marvinsalunatic- NuclearChinlocks: Josh Willingham 9. Kingofthe909- Kings of Crunk: Randy Johnson 10. MJ Styles- Rockbirds: Ramon Hernandez 11. Razaztec- Midcard 4 Life: Barry Bonds 12. HarleyQuinn-: Julio Lugo 13. Fökai - Heavy Lumber: Mike Mussina 14. Will Scarlet- Komijul: Mark Teahan 15. Cuban Linx- Scott Boras Allstars: Ian Kinsler 16. Bored- Rebels of Oakland: Ray Durham 17. Krankor- The Random Hero: Todd Helton 18. Precious Roy- Formally jwpeer: Josh Barfield 19. Canadian Chris- Team Canada: Freddy Garcia Round 6 Keepers: Deep_Thought Weeks, Rickie ROUND 5 1. Canadian Chris- Team Canada: Trevor Hoffman 2. Precious Roy- Formally jwpeer: Stephan Drew 3. Krankor- The Random Hero: Hideki Matsui 4. Bored- Rebels of Oakland: Takashi Saito 5. Cuban Linx- Scott Boras Allstars: Eric Gagne 6. Will Scarlet- Komijul: Josh Beckett 7. Razaztec- Midcard 4 Life: Adrian Gonzalez 8. MJ Styles- Rockbirds: Chad Cordero 9. Deep_Thought- Stay the Course: Freddy Sanchez 10. Kingofthe909- Kings of Crunk: Barry Zito 11. thepinjockey - Serenity: Gary Sheffield 12. treble- Brockvegas PosseL Lyle Overbay 13. Verne Gagne- Landfall Jacobites: Scott Olsen 14. Stephen Joseph- John Galt Express: Richie Sexson 15. Cena's Writer - Infinie93Intensity: JD Drew 16. iggymcfly - Cranky Old Men: Mike Piazza Round 5 Keepers: Fokai Jones, Chipper Marvinsalunatic Burrell, Pat Cartman Ryan, BJ HarleyQuinn Rolen, Scott ROUND 4 1. iggymcfly - Cranky Old Men: Dontrelle Willis 2. Cena's Writer - Infinie93Intensity: Jared Weaver 3. Stephen Joseph- John Galt Express: Dan Haren 4. Verne Gagne- Landfall Jacobites: Chuck James 5. thepinjockey - Serenity: Billy Wagner 6. Marvinsalunatic- NuclearChinlocks: Eric Bedard 7. MJ Styles- Rockbirds: Curt Schilling 8. HarleyQuinn-: Jason Schmidt 9. Will Scarlet- Komijul: Bobby Jenks 10. Cuban Linx- Scott Boras Allstars: Alex Rios ROUND 3 KEEPERS: treble Street, Huston Kingofthe909 Cabrera, Miguel Fökai Smoltz, John Canadian Chris Wells, Vernon Krankor Carpenter, Chris Bored Myers, Brett Deep_Thought Rivera, Mariano Razaztec Lidge, Brad Cartman Damon, Johnny Precious Roy Webb, Brandon ROUND 3 1. Precious Roy- Formally jwpeer: Carlos Delgado 2. Bored- Rebels of Oakland: Ryan Zimmerman 3. Will Scarlet- Komijul: Bill Hall 4. HarleyQuinn-: C.C. Sabathia 5. MJ Styles- Rockbirds: Brian Roberts 6. Marvinsalunatic- NuclearChinlocks: Jason Giambi 7. Cartman- Pawtucket Patriots: JJ Putz 8. thepinjockey -Serenity: Felix Hernandez 9. Stephen Joseph -John Galt Express: Chris Young 10. iggymcfly - Cranky Old Men: Nick Swisher ROUND 3 KEEPERS: Cena's Writer Berkman, Lance Verne Gagne Mauer, Joe treble Furcal, Rafael Kingofthe909 Hafner, Travis Fökai Ramirez, Aramis Canadian Chris Sizemore, Grady Krankor Pierre, Juan Deep_Thought Konerko, Paul Razaztec Buehrle, Mark Cuban Linx Peavy, Jake ROUND 2 1. Cena's Writer - Infinie93Intensity: Jeremy Bonderman 2. treble- Brockvegas Posse: John Lackey 3. thepinjockey - Serenity: Ben Sheets 4. Marvinsalunatic- NuclearChinlocks: Joe Nathan 5. Deep_Thought- Stay the Course: Adam Dunn 6. Razaztec- Midcard 4 Life: Jimmy Rollins 7. Fökai - Heavy Lumber: Mark Teixera 8. Will Scarlet- Komijul: Robinson Cano 9. Precious Roy- Formally jwpeer: Fransisco Rodriguez 10. Canadian Chris- Team Canada: Victor Martinez ROUND 2 KEEPERS: Iggmcfly Soriano, Alfonso Stephan Joseph Beltran, Carlos Verne Gagne Utley, Chase MJ Styles Halladay, Roy Kingofthe909 Howard, Ryan Krankor Figgins, Chone Bored Harden, Rich Cuban Linx Martinez, Pedro Cartman Reyes, Jose HarleyQuinn, Zambrano, Carlos ROUND 1: 1. Canadian Chris- Team Canada: Derek Jeter 2. Will Scarlet- Komijul: Jason Bay 3. HarleyQuinn- Ichiro Suzuki 4. MJ Styles- Rockbirds: Andruw Jones 5. Deep_Thought- Stay the Course: Carlos Lee 6. Cartman- Pawtucket Patriots: Daisuke Matsuzaka 7. treble- Brockvegas Posse: Troy Glaus ROUND 1 Keepers: Cranky Old Men (Iggmcfly): Albert Pujols Infinite93Intensity (Cena's Writer): David Ortiz John Galt Express (Stephen Joseph): Alex Rodriguez Landfall Jacobites (Verne Gagne): Roy Oswalt Serenity (thepinjockey): David Wright Kings of Crunk (Kingofthe909): Vladimir Guerrero Heavy Lumber (Bravesfan): Manny Ramirez Random Hero (Krankor): Michael Young NuclearChinlocks (Marvinsalunatic): Miguel Tejada Rebels of Oakland (Bored): Carl Crawford Midcard 4 Life (Razaztec): Bobby Abreu Scott Boras Allstars (Cuban Linx): Johan Santana Precious Roy: Derrek Lee

Cartman- as mentioned its serpentine so it won't hurt or help anyone that dramatically. It was done this way for the benefit of fairness to our 2 new managers. They would be taking over for last year's departing 2 and it wouldn't be fair for them to inherit those positions nor would it be fair for me to assign which one gets the "high" draft position and the "low" position relative to each other. It was truly random and I hope you understand my intention.

OK! Here we go. The Draft Order. As I said, we're doing this NBA Lottery Style. The 6 teams that made the playoffs last year are automatically seeded 15-20 in reverse order from their final standings. Here they are: 15. Serenity (thepinjockey) 16. Brockvegas Posse (treble) 17. Landfall Jacobites (Verne Gagne) 18. John Galt Express (Stephen Joseph) 19. Infinie93Intensity (Cena's Writer) 20. Cranky Old Men (iggymcfly) Now, for the rest of the teams, I used the same randomizer site I used last year, found here: http://www.mdani.demon.co.uk/para/random.htm I assigned numbers to the remaining teams, again based on reverse standings: THIS IS NOT THE DRAFT ORDER!!! 1. Cartman- Pawtucket Patriots 2. Jack Bauer-Formally Wart’s Whackos 3. Cuban Linx- Scott Boras Allstars 4. Razaztec- Midcard 4 Life 5. Deep_Thought- Stay the Course 6. Bored- Rebels of Oakland 7. Marvinsalunatic- NuclearChinlocks 8. Krankor- The Random Hero 9. Will Scarlet- Komijul 10. Canadian Chris- Team Canada 11. Precious Roy- Formally jwpeer 12. Fökai - Heavy Lumber 13. Kingofthe909- Kings of Crunk 14. MJ Styles- Rockbirds I then asked to generate 14 integers between 1 and 14 with no repeats. I clicked "GO" one time and the resulting output resulted in the order: 10 11 8 6 3 9 12 2 4 14 5 13 7 1 Once again, I did not fair so well, which should provide further credibility that this was done fairly and honestly and I guess build credit for one of these days when I'm given a top draft number. This resulted in the following DRAFT ORDER: 1. Canadian Chris- Team Canada 2. Precious Roy- Formally jwpeer 3. Krankor- The Random Hero 4. Bored- Rebels of Oakland 5. Cuban Linx- Scott Boras Allstars 6. Will Scarlet- Komijul 7. Fökai - Heavy Lumber 8. Jack Bauer-Formally Wart’s Whackos 9. Razaztec- Midcard 4 Life 10. MJ Styles- Rockbirds 11. Deep_Thought- Stay the Course 12. Kingofthe909- Kings of Crunk 13. Marvinsalunatic- NuclearChinlocks 14. Cartman- Pawtucket Patriots 15. Serenity (thepinjockey) 16. Brockvegas Posse (treble) 17. Landfall Jacobites (Verne Gagne) 18. John Galt Express (Stephen Joseph) 19. Infinie93Intensity (Cena's Writer) 20. Cranky Old Men (iggymcfly) Obviously you all can keep your team names or change them when we actually set up the yahoo league, but I'm just using last year's names for now to keep track of things. Now, of course, because of our Keeper Rule, there will be different actual orders in many different rounds. SO, I thought about calculating it all out at once and posting it, before realizing this would be incredibly tedious for me and confusing for all of you to keep track of. SO, what we'll do is go round by round. I'll post the corrected Round 1 draft order, everyone will post their picks in order and then I'll log it and calculate Round 2's order, post it and then we'll continue in that way. By the way, we'll be following Yahoo's serpentine system so even if you're pickinglast, you'll be first every other round. Here are the list of Unavailable players via Keepers, conveniently in alphabetical order. Please simply do a check of this list to make sure a player you want to draft is not already taken. I will update the thread as new picks are made, so they can be checked as well (Edit-Find on this page is a great quick way to check). Taken Keepers: Aaron Harang (Round 11) Adam LaRoche (Pit - 1B)- ROUND 14 Albert Pujols (Round 1) Alex Rodriguez (Round 1) Alfonso Soriano (Round 2) Anibal Sanchez (Not Drafted) Aramis Ramirez (Round 3) BJ Ryan (Round 5) BJ Upton (Round 18) Bobby Abreu (Round 1) Boof Bonser (Not Drafted) Brad Lidge (Round 4) Brandon Webb (Ari - SP)- ROUND 4 Brett Myers (Round 4) Brian McCann (Round 18) Bronson Arroyo (Round 16) Carl Crawford (Round 1) Carlos Beltran (Round 2) Carlos Guillén (Det - SS)- ROUND 9 Carlos Zambrano (ChC - SP)- ROUND 2 Chase Utley (Round 2) Chipper Jones (Round 5) Chone Figgins (Round 2) Chris Capuano (Round 9) Chris Carpenter (Round 1-pushed to Round 4) Chris Ray (Round 11) Cole Hamels (Not Drafted) Dan Uggla (Not Drafed) David Ortiz (Round 1 David Wright (Round 1) Delmon Young (Round 16) Derrek Lee (ChC - 1B)- ROUND 1 Edwin Encarnacion (Round 17) Ervin Santana (Round 9) Frank Thomas (Round 17) Garrett Atkins (Round 8) Grady Sizemore (Round 3) Hanley Ramirez (Not Drafted) Huston Street (Round 4) Jake Peavy (Round 1-pushed to Round 3) Jermaine Dye (CWS - OF)- ROUND 10 Jim Thome (Round 7) Joe Mauer (Round 3) Joel Zumaya (Not Drafted) Johan Santana (Round 1) John Smoltz (Round 4) Johnny Damon (Round 4) Jonathan Papelbon (Round 10) José Contreras (Round 7) Jose Reyes (Round 2) Josh Johnson (Not Drafted) Juan Pierre (Round 3) Justin Morneau (Round 8) Justin Verlander (Round 19) Lance Berkman (Round 3) Manny Ramirez (Round 1) Mariano Rivera (Round 4) Mark Buehrle SP (Round 3) Matt Cain (Round 8) Matt Holliday (Round 7) Michael Young (Round 1) Miguel Cabrera (Round 1- pushed to Round 4) Miguel Tejada (Round 1) Nick Markakis (Not Drafted) Pat Burrell (Round 5) Paul Konerko (Round 3) Pedro Martinez (Round 1-pushed to Round 2) Rafael Furcal (Round 3) Rich Harden (Round 2) Rickie Weeks (Round 6) Roy Halladay (Round 2) Roy Oswalt (Round 1) Ryan Howard (Round 2) Scott Kazmir (Round 8) Scott Rolen (StL - 3B)- ROUND 5 Tom Gordon (Phi - RP)- ROUND 10 Travis Hafner (Round 3) Vernon Wells (Round 4) Vladimir Guerrero (Round 1) Any questions? OK. HERE is the Official Draft Order for ROUND 1: 1. Canadian Chris- Team Canada 2. Will Scarlet- Komijul 3. Jack Bauer-Formally Wart’s Whackos 4. MJ Styles- Rockbirds 5. Deep_Thought- Stay the Course 6. Cartman- Pawtucket Patriots 7. Brockvegas Posse (treble) ROUND 1 Keepers: Cranky Old Men (Iggmcfly): Albert Pujols Infinite93Intensity (Cena's Writer): David Ortiz John Galt Express (Stephen Joseph): Alex Rodriguez Landfall Jacobites (Verne Gagne): Roy Oswalt Serenity (thepinjockey): David Wright Kings of Crunk (Kingofthe909): Vladimir Guerrero Heavy Lumber (Bravesfan): Manny Ramirez Random Hero (Krankor): Michael Young NuclearChinlocks (Marvinsalunatic): Miguel Tejada Rebels of Oakland (Bored): Carl Crawford Midcard 4 Life (Razaztec): Bobby Abreu Scott Boras Allstars (Cuban Linx): Johan Santana Precious Roy: Derrek Lee

We're doing it this early because its going to take a long time. You don't have a 1st or 2nd round pick anyway, and I'd be happy to delay the start of the 3rd round until the 13th.

Hah, thanks for that, that actually helps make my life a little easier going forward too. I'm just going to say for the sake of expediency and clarity that we put a freeze on trades until the draft is over and teams are formed. We don't want this to turn into the NBA draft where I'm Commisioner Stern walking to the podium every 2 minutes to announce "we have another trade!" and get booed off (probably by angry Knick fans).

OK, with 17 voting, Slugging Percentage wins and replaces Hits as the 6th offensive stat. Slugging: 9 Doubles: 4 Hits: 2 Abstain: 2 Like I said, I have Round 1 all ready to go, and will likely post it tomorrow evening, so everyone start paying attention because this thing will depend on cooperation to run smoothly. Any last minute pre-draft questions, let me know!

OK, I think a combination of enough people liking holds and no real alternative stat for pitchers being presented (besides the suggested of losses or homeruns allowed (which doesn't exist as an avaliable stat according to yahoo) means we'll keep the pitching stats as is. Now, I think we have enough discussion on hits vs. doubles vs. slugging % to warrant a VOTE~! so I will PM everyone and each manager can vote for which one of the 3 they'd like to have. I'll say you have until the end of the weekend to respond, but please do respond as soon as you can so we can move on quicker. Like I said, I have Round 1 ready to go but I want to wait to settle these issues before posting it.

Ok, perhaps we should do another PM poll so this thing is democratic. For what its worth I've finished calculating the draft order for Round 1 but will hold off on posting it until these issues are set since they'll likely effect player selections. Any other statistical categories any of you wish to nominate, please post them. Probably tommorow I'll send out PMs and we can vote.

I actually really like holds since we have 20 teams, rosters need to be deep, and thus it gives non-closer relief pitchers a stat that gives them purpose on the roster. Why get rid of hits? I guess Im not as open to changing them as I suggested. More a guide for what to draft for. That reminds me, here are the roster spots: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, OF, OF, OF, Util, SP, SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P, BN, BN, BN, BN, DL, DL

Stephen pleaded his case. I wasn't happy with it but it would have been a tough decision either way, so I allowed it. Now, before I post the draft order, we need to review our stats from last year, 6 offensive and 6 pitching. Runs Hits Home Runs RBIs Stolen Bases On-base Percentage Wins Saves Strikeouts WHIP ERA Holds Everybody OK with these again? I'd rather not add any more, lest things get too bloated.

Ok, thanks guys. I'll have the list of taken players and a complete draft order up sometime in the next few days. And then we can begin THE DRAFT~!

OK, I've compiled the list of players on jWeeper and Wart's final rosters that will be up for grabs in this supplemental keeper draft for our two new managers. The way it works is you two will go back and forth drafting until each of you has selected 4 "keepers". Note that I noted each round that a player was drafted in last year's draft. So again, to review, if you choose a player drafted in Round 2, you lose your second round pick in this year's upcoming draft. If you choose an undrafted player you lose your last round (so 20th or if you choose 2 undrafted 20th, 19th, etc.). There's no fair way to say who goes first, so I'll just say "early bird gets the worm" and since Jack Bauer replied first, he gets first pick followed by Precious Roy and you guys will go back and forth, indicating in this thread which player you have chosen (please feel free to make ample use of the google image search and image tags to give a visual representation of your player as well!): Pick 1: Jack Bauer- Carlos Zambrano (ChC - SP)- ROUND 2 Pick 2: Precious Roy- Brandon Webb (Ari - SP)- ROUND 4 Pick 3: Jack Bauer- Carlos Guillén (Det - SS)- ROUND 9 Pick 4: Precious Roy- Jermaine Dye (CWS - OF)- ROUND 10 Pick 5: Jack Bauer- Adam LaRoche (Pit - 1B)- ROUND 14 Pick 6: Precious Roy- Tom Gordon (Phi - RP)- ROUND 10 Pick 7: Jack Bauer- Scott Rolen (StL - 3B)- ROUND 5 Pick 8: Precious Roy- Derrek Lee (ChC - 1B)- ROUND 1 Andy Pettitte (NYY - SP)- ROUND 2 C.C. Sabathia (Cle - SP)- ROUND 6 Danys Báez (Bal - RP)- ROUND 12 David Eckstein (StL - SS)- ROUND 12 Dustin Hermanson (CWS - RP)- ROUND 14 Emil Brown (KC - OF)- ROUND 18 Eric Hinske (Bos - 1B,3B,OF)- ROUND 20 Héctor Carrasco (LAA - SP,RP)- ROUND 18 Jason Bay (Pit - OF) – ROUND 1 John Patterson (Was - SP)- ROUND 5 Johnny Estrada (Mil - C)- NOT DRAFTED (LOSE LAST AVALIABLE ROUND) Ken Griffey Jr. (Cin - OF)- ROUND 6 Kevin Mench (Mil - OF)- ROUND 9 Kevin Millwood (Tex - SP)- ROUND 8 Marcus Thames (Det - OF)- NOT DRAFTED (LOSE LAST AVALIABLE ROUND) Mark Loretta (Hou - 1B,2B)- ROUND 8 Mike González (Atl - RP)- ROUND 11 Mike Jacobs (Fla - 1B)- ROUND 14 Mike Lowell (Bos - 2B,3B)- ROUND 19 Mike MacDougal (CWS - RP)- ROUND 11 Noah Lowry (SF - SP)- ROUND 7 Pablo Ozuna (CWS - 3B,SS,OF)- NOT DRAFTED (LOSE LAST AVALIABLE ROUND) Paul Lo Duca (NYM - C)- ROUND 16 Pedro Feliz (SF - 1B,3B,OF)- ROUND 13 Rafael Betancourt (Cle - RP)- ROUND 19 Randy Winn (SF - OF)- ROUND 7 Reed Johnson (Tor - OF)- NOT DRAFTED (LOSE LAST AVALIABLE ROUND) Richie Sexson (Sea - 1B)- ROUND 3 Scott Eyre (ChC - RP)-NOT DRAFTED (LOSE LAST AVALIABLE ROUND) Scott Podsednik (CWS - OF) – ROUND 4 Shannon Stewart (Min - OF)- ROUND 13 Tom Glavine (NYM - SP)- ROUND 15 Zach Duke (Pit - SP)- ROUND 3

Baseball and Football aren't a disease, but if you're playing Fantasy hockey, or Fantasy Golf, or Fantasy NASCAR then you have a problem.. No, they're all shit. It makes people fret about individual achievements instead of wins and losses, which are supposed to really matter. Plus you get weird statements like "man, I hope the Cubs win today, but I hope they make sure Jeff Suppan gets six good innings first." "YEAH T.O.!" "You hate the Cowboys" "He's on my fantasy team" Could you continue this in another thread?

Not counting me and Stephen there are 18 other managers. It will probably take me a couple more days to get all the info together in terms of preparing for the draft, so if before then 10 managers post here or PM me to officially disapprove of allowing the keeper swap, I'll veto my original decision. If less then a majority of manage's bitch though, it will be sustained. I'm for the people.

TJ surgery is most certainly not end of career, many pitchers come back even better. Its too bad Chris Carpenter's career was over though. Oh, wait. Anyway, ok, I'll make an executive decision while reserving the right to change my mind if enough people bitch about it. I figure since your not just keeping the injured player, it puts Liriano back on the market for anyone who wants to keep him for the long term like next season. I'll allow you to swap. Now, SP made another suggestion regarding the new managers. Since, the 2 new manager's are essentially taking over for the departing two, and since we've found the final rosters from last season, that their preliminary Keeper draft would be limited to the rosters of those 2 teams (I wouldn't designate one team to each manager because there's no fair way to do that). What does everyone think of that idea. I like it, I must say, so again, unless there is much bitching, I'll say that's the way we do it.

I don't know about this one. I totally understand it but I don't want to be accused of bending the rules. Should we put it up to a vote?

Interesting idea. I can put it to a vote.

Wow! Thanks for the link. OK, well, now we can have the new teams' supplemental picks correspond to last year's draft results (i.e. they pick someone from the first round, they lose their first round, they choose someone who was not drafted, they lose the last round, etc.). Is this ok with everyone?

OK, both Precious Roy and Jack Bauer have joined the league. If I find out someone else has dropped out before the season, I'll let anybody else waiting know. In the meantime, if there are a lot of people wanting to play, someone can take the initiative and start their own Yahoo league of course. Now, while I have kept good records in terms of who everyone's keepers are, what round they correspond to and the final standings, the one thing I didn't think to save was last year's draft results for the two departing managers, so instead of my original idea of the two new managers inheriting those draft orders, we have little choice but to do four rounds exclusively with the two new managers and we'll just have to make those their equivalent of rounds 1-4 for the regular draft (i.e. they would skip rounds 1-4 in the regular draft after getting an opportunity to draft their 4 "keepers"). Unless anyone else has a better idea, I think this is the most fair and hopefully won't be a big disadvantage. With that said, for the regular draft order, I'm thinking the 6 playoff teams will pick last in reverse order, while the other 14 non-playoff teams will be randomized again like last year to determine the draft order. We can continue to go serpentine style as well. Now, we could also just go straight through the standings backwards of course from 20 to 1, but again, with our two new managers, it would seem unfair to arbitrarily assign one a higher draft position then the other. With the former plan, they, along with the other non-playoff teams have equal shot at improving draft order. So basically we're doing NBA lottery style. Again, I'm very open to feedback, anyone have a problem with this? Let me know what you guys think of this, and if it sounds good, I'll post the list of "taken" keeper players, we'll start the supplemental draft for the new managers and then I'll work out the far too complicated draft orders for the regular draft.