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The point is he knew he was leaving. That's why he told him on the same day Hart found out his contract was getting breached. He didn't want to job to someone leaving to go to WCW.

Can you quote the worst posts in it so I don't have to read 9 pages about baseball?

Actually, yes you do. This kind of attitude is EXACTLY why people don't want you as a mod.

If everyone knows why he was banned, then it should be pretty easy to point out lots of his intolerable posts.

Please give some examples of posts where he was "intolerable". Someone else on this thread tried but then admitted he was wrong. Wtf.

Choken One is the best poster here BY FAR. He better not have been banned.

Yeah, but he could've picked another day to tell him other than the SAME EXACT day Vince picked to break the news to Bret that he was breaching his contract.

Vince probably also told Shawn on 9/22. Why else would he tell Bret that he wasn't jobbing to him on the same day?

I think Bret had to lose Montreal no matter what, just because Bret (and Canada) always won everything that year. Canada can't win every single match. Bret had to lose once in Canada. It didn't even have to be Survivor Suries. Vince said it could be the next month, but Bret still said no. If Benoit had looked better than every single wrestler one year (let's say it was this year), and at the end, he lost to HHH a few times by screwjob, however he won the title back at the last match, then went on main event WM, I don't think too many people would be bitching. 9/22 was the same day Vince told him he would breach his title. Edit: the top response

When was that? I've never heard that one. He jobbed to Sid before. Like I said, the only one Bret would be putting over on that whole scenario that he hated so much would have been Austin. Bret wouldn't be putting over Shawn anymore than Undertaker put him over at Bad Blood and Royal Rumble.

Undertaker lost twice to Michaels and didn't become fodder. He didn't even get a win. Bret was supposed to win the last match, essentially winning the feud. Again, Shawn only refused to lose to Bret because he was leaving. Why should he be any higher than that? It's kind of silly to expect Vince to hold Austin back just to make Bret happy.

I think Vince wanted him to be a face and feud with Michaels. He gave him a scenario where he would win the blow off match with Shawn and be in the main event of Wrestlemania. How could he have a problem with that? You know the matches Shawn won wouldn't be clean. None of Shawn's matches were clean when he was in DX. They wouldn't even let him beat Shamrock. So the only one he'd really be putting over was.. Austin. Which is fair because Bret beat Austin every time they fought, including the Wrestlemania the year before.

Which got a reply of... What the fuck is that about? The original poster made a legitimate comment about Flair's book being compromised by being ghostwritten and a WWE Book, and threw it out there as another aspect of to consider when discussing this topic. In reply the poster got a childish retort of no substance. Unsurprisingly, the second poster has a Hart Foundation picture in his/her signature. Example 2 - From the thread about Bruno Sammartino working with the WWE again... Why did this poster bother replying to a thread about which they admit to knowing nothing about? I'll post more examples soon... Then either leave or report it so you don't look like a fucking baby in front of the whole board. TheSmartMarks.com: More Drama Queens than a Broadway Musical

The fact that it was WCW.

Same thing for Owen. What does the way Bret acted about his brother dying have to do with Flair's life?

The best thing for Wily in 1 was electricity and fire. The best for 4 was drill and pharoah man. I don't remember 5, 6, and 7. The most useless weapon had to be Guts man. I mean, there's like 5 blocks in the whole game.

Because it's a business, and WCW getting to say they have WWF's world champion would be a huge blow to the company, which was already struggling. Bret's a hero to Canada and doesn't want to lose? Tough shit. It's professional wrestling, heros lose sometimes, it happens. If Bret wanted to win all the time, maybe he should have picked a real competitive sport. Seriously, this would be like Hogan refusing to lose the Warrior because he'd let all his hulkamaniacs down, or refuse to lose the Rock because he'd let down all the NWO-ites. "Well you know something Vince, I don't think my hulkamaniacs would like if I lost to Warrior at wrestlemania. Let me win against the Warrior, brother. I can lose the belt the next month against Brutus Beefcake, and he can drop it to Warrior. See, it all works out dude."

Right, urged him to take it, not telling him he had to do it. Bret didn't like the new direction of the WWF, he didn't like the guy Vince wanted to be champion, and he would be making way more money in WCW. Even Bret said that the deal they offered "would be insane not to be taken. So why should Vince try to make him stay? All you have to do is look at his documentary to see how miserable he was in the WWF that year. Boohoo, they're turning me heel. Boohoo, Shawn is going to take my spot. Boohoo, the WWF is turning into smut TV. Boohoo, they want to make my CHARACTER look like a racist.

(even though it's helpful in the final boss) I thought it was at first too. "Wow, the water balloons actually do something!" But then I realized the normal blaster with the laser did more damage.

If Shawn didn't want to lose to Austin, why didn't they ever have any problems with each other? It seems like Austin would've had a big problem with Shawn after that. In Shawn's shoot tape, he explained that one of the reasons he thought Russo was an idiot, was because he wanted Shawn to win that match at WM. Taker was probably just still pissed about Bret and wanted to make sure something like that didn't happen again. How do you know he wasn't hurt? How would Bret know? Then Vince told Bret that he changed his mind and now he could afford his ENTIRE contract. But Bret still took the WCW deal anyway. He didn't get kicked out, he left on his own.

Well the main thing wrong with it is if Bret dropped the title the next night, then WCW would've had their UNDEFEATED WORLD CHAMPION. Also they would have to do a tournament to get the belt on Shawn. A real pointless waste of time just to accomodate a guy (that's LEAVING btw) who doesn't want to lose his pretend fight because he doesn't like his opponent. The biggest bullshit though is him not wanting to lose because it's in his country and he'd be letting his fans down. I'm pretty sure the US fans were let down when Hart Foundation won the Canadian Stampede, when they won both flag matches, when the Patriot got his little ass handed to him by Bret, and when Bret beat the Undertaker at Summerslam for the title. In fact, Canada always seemed to end up winning. So I don't see how it's too much to ask of Bret for him to lose big ONCE that year, especially considering Shawn would be around after, and Bret wouldn't. It didn't even have to be clean. Bret wouldn't even go with a screw job ending that would give the title to Shawn. What was wrong with that?

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He wasn't referring to anything about WM13. Shawn's story has always been that he was injured for WM13, not that he refused to job to Bret. Bret wanted to go over at the big PPV, and he wanted Shawn to win at the little insignificant IYH ppv in a 4 WAY MATCH. I don't know why Vince and Shawn didn't jump all over that.

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