chaosrage

Who said he wasn't the most over? Most over and the top guy are two different things.

Were you watching in 2000?

3 is revised too? I wouldn't worry about it if it's anything like 1. I read it a couple of weeks ago and he hardly changed anything. Except for a couple lines, most of it's the same, word for word.

Rock ended up with the title and he won their last match at Summerslam. Not clean, but none of them were clean. King of the Ring got a 1.19. Fully Loaded got a 1.04. http://www.steveswrestling.com/info/wwebuyrates.html As for the ratings, they went from 6s and 7s when HHH was champ to 4s and 5s in August and September. Pretty big difference. The last 6 Raw ever did was the first week of August 00. Then maybe the Rock never had a year. Just a couple of months.

No, 1999 was the year of the Rock, 2000 was the HHH show. Hell, even when Rock had the belt, the main storylines still revoved around HHH. Biggest draw? He obviously wasn't the biggest draw because the ratings and buyrates went down as soon as Triple H lost the title. HHH won by DQ at JD. Before that, they were tied. Triple H never got a decisive victory over him either. So how does he look weaker?

He wasn't, but as I said I think it's just because he got stale. Remember, it's not too long after that that he was getting booed and had to turn heel. I think the fact that the fans loved him when he changed his character shows that it wasn't all just because he was making movies. The reason is people were getting sick of him cutting the exact same promos almost word for word since April 99. Fans wanted him to win just like they wanted Foley to win, but when a face chasing after the belt finally catches it, what else is there for them to do? Not a whole lot. If a Rock fan was watching every week to see him beat HHH and become the champ, he'll be happy at first, but after a couple of months of the same thing he's probably stop watching. Because he's already got what he wanted and his favorite guy is at the top. It's like having a movie where the good guy kills the bad guys and saves the day, then it keeps going on for another hour. Austin got around that in 98 by the Austin/McMahon feud and the corporation, usually though the shows are more entertaining and business is better when faces are chasing after the belt. Foley trying and failing to take it didn't hurt the ratings. They were still going up until the KOTR. After Judgment Day, I would have just moved HHH on to Angle and Jericho. Not much would even be different. Jericho/HHH was the focal point going into Fully Loaded, and Angle/HHH was the main thing going into Summerslam. Yeah, that sucked, I don't think it makes a whole lot of difference though. For me at least, the shows after KOTR were more boring than the ones with HHH as champ, it didn't have anything to do with Rock pinning Vince. It just wasn't as fun to watch. Actually I think a lot of why Rock/Austin 2 was as strong as it is was because he HADN'T won the big one yet. This was going to be it, the match where Rock gets the torch. But no, he went off to make movies, and the passing of the torch match happened the year later. In the same way, that win over Hogan wouldn't have meant nearly as much if he had beaten Austin and HHH at other WMs.

I doubt Austin/Bret would have been the main event. Bret wasn't even main eventing the PPVs he was around for in late 97. Fans were losing interest in him and USA vs Canada was starting to get old. It'd have been company suicide to keep the title on him for another 4 months. Or he would have to turn face. Then what would be the point of him still being champ? Fake edit: The thing I loved the most about Stone Cold as a heel was he was too much of a badass to cheat or get help. He was always winning matches by himself.

Nah, by the time the McMahon-Helmsley Era got underway, Trips was over. The two wins over Foley solidified his ME status, so he could've easily drawn against the Rock without Vince's involvement. I never really had that much of a problem with the heel going over, but considering the way they built towards the match, and that they put the title on Rock only a couple of weeks later, they would've been better off allowing Rock to go over at the PPV. I mean, he was the biggest star in the company. Why waste his title win on one of the bullshit PPVs when they could've done it at Mania? Because if they fight a million times, you have to give Rock one win, or else fans would stop caring. So they let him win a meaningless match and gave him the belt for a month. HHH won the two big matches, WM and ironman. That's the only way it should have gone, since 2000 was the year of HHH and was on such a huge roll. I think the problem is when Rock won it back at KOTR. That's when the ratings started to turn around. HHH's reign was a breath of fresh air for the WWF (When was the last monster heel title run in WWF before that? Yokozuna?), and Rock was completely stale at that point. The belt should have went straight to Angle at Summerslam.

It was after the Euro finals. The Euro tournament was before WM. I definitely agree it was the best angle ever. Even the little things that people don't pay attention to or seem to remember was great, like Austin turning on Pillman because he made the mistake of calling Bret by his catchphrase. See, he was Austin's best friend, but he still had some respect for the Hitman since he got trained in the dungeon. That's why him joining the Hart Foundation made perfect sense. And not only did Austin break Pillman's ankle but he went to his house to finish him off. That's how much he hated bret. Before they even met or fought once and 5 months before the double turn.

Ironman, of course.

So they have different prices on them but they're really $4.99? My CC didn't have anything anyway.

Both I think. It's been awhile. Any idea when it's coming out?

Yeah, they're good. The best part is that the GB mega mans are way harder than the ones on NES. Except for part 2. Did you get to MM3 yet?

See, that's another great thing about the early Mega Mans. Bosses had more than one weakness so you pick your own path. Wood Man is weak against the metal blade too so I always went to heat man last. Here's how I always did it. Bubble Man Flash Man Quick Man Metal Man Wood Man Air Man Crash Man Heat Man although bubbles work the best for Heat Man so it's not a complete loop. original mega mans 2, 3, 1, 4, 5, 8, 6, 7 mega man x's X2, X1, X3, X4 (didn't play x5-x7)

You can kill Metal Man himself with just one blade. I guess that's probably it. I haven't played it in about 12 years but I remember it just not being as fun as the rest. All the weapons were pretty useless most of the time after MM4 gave us the Mega Blaster.

Uh, to read? So nobody can just read posts anymore? Would you really want to force posters like IB to post instead of lurk? And what if they just post on HD? Dumbest idea in awhile.

The other Bret/Owen. I like the cage match a lot better than the wm one.

(4) Bret Hart vs Steve Austin, WrestleMania 13 (2) Bret Hart vs Steve Austin, Survivor Series 1996 No way in hell Rey/Eddie is better than Bret/Austin. It shouldn't have made it past Bret/Owen.

Yep, and 2 on normal.

Oh, the rock monster. Why aren't you playing the games in order? When you get to 2 and 3, you'll see why people hate 6.

Bradshaw is the champion?? Fuck.. I didn't even know there was a PPV tonight.

What's the yellow devil? MM1's still one of the best mega man games. And MM2 and MM3 are the best, so that should be fun if you never played them before. Air Man's kinda tough if you don't have the right weapon.

Shadowgate. Maniac Mansion was awesome too.

Fight Club The Godfather Taxi Driver Shawshank Redemption

WILLOW. Like he should have done since season 3.