TheOriginalOrangeGoblin

Bastard. I kinda hoped Kramer would make it back to me although I'm not shocked he didn't.

Wow, Soprano lasted a lot longer than I expected. 2 more entires. 2nd person can pick twice.

I feel ya on that. Shane's my favorite character on the Shield but I couldn't pass up Vic and I doubt I'll have room to fit Shane in too.

Less picks makes it funner in my opinion rather having it drag on.

I'll do the TV character draft.

Since no one else stepped up, I'll run this one. Same rules as always. Maximum of 20 participants and 15 rounds (I liked how short and sweet the Simpson character draft was). Post a character to enter. Entries end when we get 20 of after the Sunday Night Football game ends. Miss 3 picks and you're out and your picks are back in the pool. Guidelines: - Live action characters only - No reality show stars (hosts are allowed though - this goes for talk show hosts too) - No wrestlers, athletes, MMA fighters etc. - In regards to Saturday Night Live/Mad TV/SCTV: you can pick characters but not actors (ie. Elwood Blues and not Dan Aykroyd) - Muppets are allowed - Made for TV movie characters are not allowed; made-for-TV mini-series characters are allowed - When someone drops out, their picks are no longer eligible The Now Eligible List: Rod Serling, Archie Bunker, Gabriel 'Sylar' Grey, Sam Beckett, Mal Reynolds, David Addison, Oscar Bluth, Lt. Horatio Caine, Gary Busey, Conan O'Brien, Macgyver, Capt. B.J. Hunnicutt, Hal, Dennis Reynolds, Mr. Dressup, Dr. Cliff Huxtable, Mr. Conductor, Dan Conner, The Pokaroo, Tom Green, Bob Barker, Newman, Mr. Wick, Lt. Frank Drebin, Bill Nye, Mike Nelson, George Utley, Carla Espinosa, Dick Solomon, Jimmy James, Sweetums, Jon Stewart, Herman Munster Results: 1. TheOriginalOrangeGoblin: Det. Vic Mackey, Det. James 'Sonny' Crockett, Dr. Frasier Crane, Billy Walsh, Elaine Benes, Philip 'Uncle Phil' Banks, Jefferson Darcy, Sean Connery, Ed Deline, Capt. David Aceveda, Norm Peterson, Joey Jeremiah, Special Agent Jack Malone, Det. Andy Sipowicz, Det. Ricardo 'Rico' Tubbs, Cosmo Kramer, Will Smith 2. Youth N Asia: Jack Bauer, Johnny 'Drama' Chase, John Locke, Willow Rosenberg, Noah Bennett, Robe Sofer, Jayne Cobb, Paulie 'Walnuts' Gualtieri, Lex Luthor, Creed Bratton, Marlo Stanfield, The Janitor, Mark Antony, Brother Justin Crowe, Angel, Dr. Christian Troy, Sgt. James Doakes 3. Timmy8271: Steve Sanders, Lt. Jon Kavanaugh, Antwon Mitchell, JR Ewing, Cordell Walker, Capt. Jean Luc Picard, Ralph Kramden, Don Francisco, Stefano Dimera, Zach Morris, Craig Kilborn, Howard Stern, Jim Dangle, Sonny Corinthos, Jesse Katsopolis, Carlton Banks, Jack Donaghy 4. 6foot9: Al Bundy, Sheldon Cooper, Alf, Howard Cossell, Dr. Gil Grissom, Mike Adamle, Benjamin Linus, Phoebe Buffay, Arnold Jackson, Daisy Duke, Punky Brewster, Tattoo, Topanga, Mike Seaver, Phoebe Halliwell, Steve Urkel, [MISSING 1] 5. Gosunkugi: Omar Little, Dr. Perry Cox, Det. Curtis 'Lem' Lemansky, Nick Andopolis, Tracy Jordan, Ralph 'Ralphie' Cifaretto, Jack Tripper, Gomez Addams, Georgia 'George' Lass, Faith Lehane, Michael Bluth, Tim Canterbury, Tony Almeida, Morticia Addams, Herr Otto Flick, Veronica Mars, Emerson Cod 6. Hooburrito: BA Baracus, Thomas Magnum, Christine Sullivan, Cyril O'Reily, KITT, Det. Lennie Briscoe, Xena, Lucy Ricardo, Max Smart, Hercules, Animal, Maj. Margaret 'Hot Lips' Houlihan, Joy Turner, Mork, Mr. Wilberforce Claybourne Humphries, Olivia Benson, Dieter 7. Lt. Jon Kavanaugh: Simon Adebisi, Det. Shane Vendrell, Det. Frank Pembleton, Preston 'Bodie' Broadus, Jason Stackhouse, Jeff Greene, Livia Soprano, Fred Sanford, Stringer Bell, Jazz, Waldo Faldo, Mr. Mark Cooper, Kunta Kinte, Ryan O'Riley, Martin Payne, Ari Gold, Jim Lahey 8. Dr. Zoidberg: Charlie Kelly, Andy Bernard, Liz Lemon, Mac, Basil Fawlty, Dan Dority, Jermaine Clement, Peter Petrelli, David Brent, Rowdy Yates, Gareth Keenan, George Michael Bluth, 'Sweet' Dee Reynolds, The Haitian, Mr. G, Kelly Kapoor, Jax Teller 9. BlackFlagg: Dexter Morgan, Dr. Bob Kelso, Fox Mulder, Wesley Wyndham Price, Det. Holland 'Dutch' Wagenbach, Dr. Niles Crane, George Steinbrenner, Admiral Al Calavicci, Det. James 'Jimmy' McNulty, Geoffrey, Winnie Cooper, Red Forman, George Bluth Sr., Mason, Spike, Dr. Gregory House, Margos Dezerian 10. Nighthawk: Vern Schillinger, George Costanza, Larry David, Crow T. Robot, Tom Servo, Michael Scott, Kelly Bundy, Stephanie, Tyrone Biggums, Vyvyan Basterd, Chris Peterson, Homey Da Clown, Dr. Drew, Jan Brady, The Joker, Steve-O, Tom Hanson, Alex Trebek 11. Spaceman Spiff: Tony Soprano, Al Swearengen, Cigarette Smoking Man, Bill McNeil, Don Draper, Moe Howard, Sawyer, Titus Pullo, Daisy Adair, Lisa Miller, Beaker, Dr. Joel Fleischman, Christine 'Moose' McGlade, Maj. Richard Winters, Ed Stevens, Stephen Colbert, Randy Hickey, Dave Nelson 12. CanadianChris: Arthur 'The Fonz' Fonzarelli, Captain James T. Kirk, Dan Fielding, Buffy Summers, Alex P. Keaton, Benson DuBois, Dan Rydell, Casey McCall, Tommy Gavin, Robin Scherbatsky, Col. John 'Hannibal' Smith, Phil Keoghan, Remington Steele, Lt. Cmdr. Data, Rachel Green, Spock, Sam Malone, Capt. Benjamin Franklin "Hawkeye" Pierce 13. foleyfanforever88: Gob Bluth, Dwight Schrute, George Feeny, Turtle, Bill Haverchuk, Eric Matthews, Sayid Jarah, Buster Bluth, Clayton Bixby, Pam Beesly, Kenan Rockmore, Kel Kimble, Jim Halpert, Hiro Nakamura, Penny, Barney Stinson, Tobias Funke, Judge Marilyn Milian I'll start: Victor Samuel Mackey

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My favorite ideas so far are TV characters and serial killers. Here's a few more: - Dead celebrities - Politicians - Countries

This. QUOTED FOR TRUTH.

Ya it took me a while to find this folder. This set up is fucking retarted.

GROUP A "Respect" by Aretha Franklin vs "Sunshine Of Your Love" by Cream "The House Of The Rising Sun" by the Animals vs "I Heard it Through the Grapevine" by Marvin Gaye GROUP B "Hey Jude" by The Beatles vs "Fortunate Son" by Creedence Clearwater Revival "A Day in the Life" by The Beatles vs "Brown Eyed Girl" by Van Morrison GROUP C "Can't Help Falling In Love" by Elvis Presley vs "My Generation" by The Who "Purple Haze" by The Jimi Hendriz Expierence vs "God Only Knows" by The Beach Boys GROUP D "Venus in Furs" by The Velvet Underground vs "Like a Rolling Stone" by Bob Dylan "Gimme Shelter" by Rolling Stones vs "What a Wonderful World" by Louis Armstrong

Tony fuckin' Montana

Joker, Batman: The Animated Series

Also, would the LAPD WANT another corrupt cop poster child after Gilroy and Lem? Ronnie would be proof that the LAPD hasn't been able to stop the problem that was originally exposed.

John McClane

Here's something someone on another board that makes sense: "All they've got Ronnie on is the aiding and abetting/conspiracy involving Shane, and that's because they have is the testimony of Claudette/Dutch etc who saw him make the drop and can explain their sting operation. Vic's statement is completely inadmissible hearsay (even assuming the Feds would let the local prosecutors use it, which given the egg on their faces they certainly would not). As for all the other possible charges, like everyone's been saying, they really have nothing on him. They're going to charge him with covering up a cop killing which the feds now actively have to cover up? Unlikely. Throw in the politics as the OP pointed out, and I could even see this turning into a very quiet plea deal and a long house arrest. Obviously his pension and job are finished, but he may not even end up in Antwon Mitchellville. "

What would Ronnie get life for? Aiding and abetting? Armed robbery? He had no direct knowledge of Terry's murder and he isn't as well-known as a shady cop as Vic and Shane were. I doubt he'll get life. He'll probably cut a deal and serve 10 years (that way it goes away fast and the department avoids the bad publicity). The only thing that could really get him life is killing Zadofian, the Armenian at the start of season 7.

Peter Griffin

That was intense. But I still found Shane's suicide as the most intense moment (evenmoreso than the discovery of Mara and Jackson). It's just so sudden and then Danny and Claudette just stare in silence. And I'm rewatching the episode today so I'll check again about Aceveda.

What did everyone think of the end video package? I was a bit disappointed. I don't think the song fit and I was hoping for something all-encompassing like the season 2 'Overcome' video.

You're the second person to say that. To which I say, WHAT implication are you talking about? Tina asks him in the ambulance before he dies who did it to him. He says a name that I can't make out. Tina asks him why. He says he organized a picket line around his "rock house" (I believe that's what he says). The crack-heads were afraid to cross the picket line. THAT is why he was shot. It was by drug dealers. It had nothing to do with Aceveda. Why the hell would Aceveda care about him? He wasn't getting any serious news coverage. Aceveda pretty much already has the election locked up. It wasn't implied nor would Aceveda have a good reason to be involved in his death. Aceveda's discussion with Claudette makes it very clear that he is not sad at all about Andre's death (after Andre embarrassed him earlier). He may have not had anything to do with there was satisfaction in his voice.

I saw the ending for Vic as a possibility and I figured Ronnie would get what he got but Shane caught me off-guard (especially the Benoit part of his suicide). The more I think about it, the more I think that that was one of the best series finales I've ever seen. For Tina, Julien, Danny, Dutch etc. life goes on, while the Strike Team has finished tearing itself apart. Aceveda wins once again (with the implication that he may have played a part in what happened to Andre 3000) and will be mayor, while Claudette would rather kill herself through the job than exist without it. Everyone had a logical conclusion and no one betrayed their character.

Wow, what an ending. Shane pulling a Benoit shocked me and was probably the most gut-wrenching piece of television I have ever seen. Ronnie finding out Vic betrayed him and getting dragged away as Vic is speechless was another great scene. And the ending for Mackey is fitting but he still got off light. No one has mentioned the real winner in all of this: Los Angeles Mayor David Aceveda.

I'm not in this draft but this would've been my big sleeper pick: McBain's Partner "I'm retiring and I just bought me a boat..." Gets shot. McBain - "MENDOZAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"

That's not that bad really.