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Well, sounded like he had a good game today with a homer and a double that went to the wall. I haven't dropped him from any of my teams yet, so he's been riding the pine most days, but maybe I'll be able to play him with some confidence soon. Maybe I motivated him. He had a game tying double last night as well. I'd have no problem if he proved me wrong. Oh and Rich Harden is injured yet again, this time it's back spasms. This guy is never gonna stay healthy.
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4/25: The Good And Bad Of Sports Discussion
Bored commented on kkktookmybabyaway's blog entry in KK's Korner
Oh that's a challenge bitch! Ozzie Smith, duh. I fully agree that most people who decribe themselves as diehard sport fans typically don't know what the hell they are talking about, which probably includes me I'm just better at thinking I know what I'm talking about. You also touched on probably my most hated sports fan trait...fantasy GM's. Everyone thinks that their team can package a few scrubs to get a team to give up their star player. I can remember Warriors fans in the mid-90s putting together every hairbrain trade to get Hakeem Olajuwon as if somehow the Rockets were looking to get rid of him. -
I wouldn't hold your breath. Even though he put up good numbers in the minors he was never a highly regarded prospect. He was red hot his first couple of months after being called up last year but he tailed off as the season wore on and had a terrible September. I fear that he's already been figured out by big league pitchers and if he doesn't start making adjustments he won't have much of a future. If he continues to struggle this badly, along with most of the rest of the line-up, they'll be feeling the pressure to call up Daric Barton ahead of schedule.
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A's offense Eric Chavez & Nick Swisher: 17 HR, 25 extra base hits Rest of team: 10 HR, 27 extra base hits
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After talking about the mediocre '97 Pirates and doing the 1996 MVP redo it got me thinking about my favorite losing A's team, the 1996 version. The A's by this time were well removed from their three consecutive pennant winning teams with only Mark McGwire and Terry Steinbach left from those glory days. The team was predicted to be one of the worst in baseball going into season mainly due to having a starting rotation who's "#1 starter" was Todd Van Poppel. Oof. To add insult to injury with the low expectations they were also forced out of their home park for their first homestand. The Oakland Coliseum was undergoing a massive reconstruction to accomodate the Raiders who moved back to Oakland the previous year. The old bleachers and old giant scoreboards were torn down and a monstrosity that the locals would soon call Mt. Davis (in fact I think I came up with the name first or at least that's what I tell myself) in "honor" of Raiders' owner Al Davis. It was to make the stadium more football friendly and it was basically Oakland's way of bending over and taking it in the ass for the Raiders while completley ignoring the A's in the process. The stadium wasn't anywhere close to being ready and the A's first six home games were moved to Las Vegas. The construction would go on during the season with jackhammer sounds becoming a regular ballpark experience the first couple of months of the season and it was a major embarassment for the franchise. But as it turned out they weren't horrible, not any good mind you but they managed not to finish last in the A.L. West and for a brief period of time after the All-Star Break they looked like they might break .500. After beating the Blue Jays on July 26th they were 54-50 and within five games of first place but that would be their peak. They would still be at .500 by mid-August but then they had a stretch where they lost 13 out of 16 which effectively buried their season. They finished the year 78-84 which was a small victory for a team expected to lose over 90 games. As I talked about in the '96 redo, offense was completely out of control that season and the A's took full advantage hitting a team record 243 homeruns which made them very entertaining to watch even if they weren't that good. Fortunently Van Poppel wouldn't stay the staff's #1 starter for very long as he'd get bombed and the former top prospect's Oakland career would come to an end later in the season when he was put on waivers. But the rest the rotation was horrible as advertised with a hodge podge of marginal prospects and never weres. So here's a look back at my favorite losing team and where they went. C: Terry Steinbach (.272/.342/.529, 40.3 VORP, 18 Win Shares) - At age 34, Steinbach hit a career high 35 homeruns, 19 above his previous high which came nine years earlier. Draw your own conclusions. This would be his last season in Oakland as he'd sign with his hometown Twins to finish out his career, retiring after 1999. 1B: Mark McGwire (.312/.467/.730, 91.6 VORP, 29 Win Shares) - This was McGwire's first full season since 1992, although he still started year with another trip to the DL, and he would have the best year of his career to that point. Really I just look at this numbers still in awe and this season was more special to me than his '98 season only because he was still in Oakland of course. He of course was traded to the Cardinals at the trade deadline in 1997 as the franchise hit rock bottom in a deal that is best forgotten. Retired after 2001. 2B: Tony Batista (.298/.350/.433, 15.9 VORP, 9 Win Shares) - The A's actually had a three headed monster here with former second baseman of the future Brent Gates and awful utility infielder Rafael Bournigal. Batista was a midseason call up and won the everyday job the last two months of the season. After showing promise he had an awful '97 season and was left unprotected in the expansion draft where he was picked up by Arizona. Since then had stops in Toronto, Baltimore, Montreal, Japan, and now with Minnesota. 3B: Scott Brosius (.304/.393/.516, 43.4 VORP, 19 Win Shares) - After mediocre numbers his first few years in the league Brosius brokeout with a very good year both offensive and defensively. His production then dropped like a rock in '97 and was traded to the Yankees for Kenny Rogers soon after the season ended. He'd become a World Series hero in 1998 with them which fooled them into keeping him as their regular 3rd baseman for the next three years although his final season in 2001 wasn't bad. SS: Mike Bordick (.240/.307/.318, -5.6 VORP, 10 Win Shares) - Bordick had been living off a good year offensively in 1992 for a long time and I forgot how truly awful he was offensively. Only kept an everyday job due to his defense. Last season in Oakland as he signed with the Orioles. In 2000 out of no where the first half of the season he suddenly started hitting for power which got Mets' GM Steve Phillips all excited so he traded Melvin Mora for him. Ouch. He'd then promptly go right back to the Orioles after the season. His final year was in 2003 with Toronto. LF: Jason Giambi (.291/.355/.481, 26.6 VORP, 15 Win Shares) - Yes you're reading that right: LF, Jason Giambi. He came up as a 3rd baseman but that was occupied by Brosius who was very good defensively and Giambi's future position at 1st was of course filled by McGwire. Phil Plantier, yes that Phil Plantier, actually started more games in left than anyone for the A's but let's just pretend like that didn't happen. Giambi did get a fair amount of time at 1st when they'd DH McGwire. As for Giambi's defense in left...it was like if Lonnie Smith & Manny Ramirez had a kid. It was bad, really bad. As we all know Giambi was with the A's thru 2001 and then became the poster boy for selling out by signing with the Yankees. CF: Ernie Young (.242/.326/.424, 7.6 VORP, 10 Win Shares) - This was Young's only full season in the Majors. He could hit some homeruns and play pretty good defense but couldn't hit a breaking pitch to save his life so no surprise why he didn't last long. He's become a Crash Davis type of player as he's still hanging around the minors hitting homeruns and gets the occasional cup of coffee, most recently with Cleveland last year at age 34. RF: Jose Herrera (.269/.318/.378, -2.2 VORP, 5 Win Shares) - Was acquired in the Rickey Henderson/Steve Karsay deal in 1993, never really developed and this was his 2nd and last year in the Majors. Out of baseball after 2000 but looking at his Baseball Cube page apparantly tried to make a comeback last year with the Orioles' Double-A team but only played in five games. DH: Geronimo Berroa (.290/.344/.532, 33.0 VORP, 16 Win Shares) - Berroa was a long time minor leaguer who outside of a spending a year with the Braves in 1989 as a Rule V draftee hadn't been given much of a shot in the Majors. Finally in 1994 at age 29 the A's signed him and he became a fan favorite beacuse he basically put everything into every swing, putting up some pretty good numbers. Traded to the Orioles in 1997 and his production fell off from there. Brief stops in Detroit, Cleveland, Toronto, and Los Angeles. Out of baseball after 2001. Starting Rotation Don Wengert (86 ERA+, 16.2 VORP, 6 Win Shares) - I should preface that the A's nine pitchers make 10 or more starts in '96 so I'm going with the four guys who made more than 20 starts as they obviously didn't have a set rotation all year. After showing promise early in the minors, Wengert couldn't get Triple-A hitters out by the the A's pitching woes forced them to use him on the big club which was a theme for A's pitching in the mid-90s. Traded to the Paders after 1997, he'd bounce around to the Cubs, Royals, Braves, and Pirates. Out of baseball after 2002. Doug Johns (80 ERA+, 4.7 VORP, 4 Win Shares) - Not really a prospect as he debuted at age 27 the previous year and his low K rate in the minors pretty much told you he wasn't going to make it in the Majors but again the A's didn't have many options. A's waived him the following season. Did spend a couple of years as a reliever and spot starter with the Orioles, was done with baseball after 1999. John Wasdin (80 ERA+, 0.8 VORP, 4 Win Shares) - A former first round pick, he again couldn't get Triple-A hitters out but was forced into the rotation and was absolutlely lit up in this his rookie year. Traded to the Red Sox for Jose Canseco of all people the following season he's had a second career as a sometimes effective middle reliever although usually not. Had stops in Colorado, Baltimore, Toronto, and now with Texas although currenlty in the minors. Ariel Prieto (116 ERA+, 27.3 VORP, 8 Win Shares) - Before the Hernadez brothers made it cool to find Cuban pitchers there was Ariel Prieto. He was very much hyped as a future star but '96 was the only year that was ever moderately effective as I suppose he was the Hideki Irabu of Cuban pitchers. Last appeared in the Majors in 2001 with Tampa Bay although still hangs around the minors most recently with the Marlins Triple-A team although doesn't appear on any roster this year. Closer: Billy Taylor (111 ERA+, 16.0 VORP, 10 Win Shares) - Taylor was your typical losing team closer who no on notices because save situations don't become that important for losing teams. He was passable but nothing special. But good 'ol Steve Phillips saw his decent save totals and traded Jason Isringhausen for him at the trade deadline in 1999. Oops! Taylor didn't even make the Mets postseason roster. Made stops in Tampa and Pittsburgh, done after 2001.
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My impression at the time was the majority of A's fans were apathetic towards it. They knew '97 was going to be his last year as all the talk going into that season was when they were going to trade him. The ownership was slashing payroll at that point so there was no realistic chance of signing him to a new contract so no matter what if he was going to break the homerun record it was going to be with a different team. So by the time '98 homerun chase really heated up many had just learned to accept it and that he'd now be identified by what he did in St. Louis and not Oakland on the national stage. It just sucked that no one they acquired from the Cardinals ended up giving the A's much of a contribution as they were dealing from a point of weakness.
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Ya I know but I try keep these entries from going too long so with the "Where'd They Go?" features I just focus on the regular players. That was Matt Stairs first year with the A's as he finally ended up with a team who'd play him. You know what I just realized I completely skipped over Geronimo Berroa, I'll have to edit him in.
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Not to my knowledge and I doubt it would happen here. The NCAA's practice of taking away records has always seemed silly and the general public never really acknowledges it. Fun fact though was that Houston was on probation when Andre Ware won the Heisman in 1989.
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Why do I even watch the A's the first two months of the season? I hope I end up in a two month long coma next April. Billy Beane's shit don't work in April, May, and October! Also the Esteban Loaiza deal may have been Beane's worst move to date. I saw no logic in giving someone as inconsistent as him in his mid 30's a three-year deal worth $22 million. He's looked awful and his fastball is topping in the high-80s. Today he left with a shoulder injury which may end up being a blessing in disguise for the rotation but the contract has little chance of not being an albatross.
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No one in the NYC media believed he actually had a parasite. Most people assumed it was a cover up to hide his sickness due to getting off of the gas. If it turns out Helton has a pituitary tumor then there could be a similar situation. Maybe Helton just likes giving rim jobs.
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Ummm except for the fact that steroid usage would have nothing to do with someone having an intestinal parasite.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-r...ov=ap&type=lgns Yikes, that sounds kind of ominous.
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Just trying to mix up the entires and come up with something different I figured with the NBA Playoffs starting Saturday it'd be time to do an NBA entry. Being a Golden State Warriors fan it's hard to get nostalgic about much of antyhing so I figured I'd pick the year that they last made the playoffs, the first post-Jordan year, and an NBA Finals that was overshadowed by a slow speed chase of a white Ford Bronco. I wasn't sure where I'd go with the entry but one thing that I'm trying to look more into are the sabermetric side of basketball statistics. It's not nearly as well known as baseball sabermetrics and I'm not completely sure how reliable they are. There's two stats that have caught my interest, John Hollinger's Player Efficiency Rating and the basketball version of Win Shares that was created by the guy who runs basketball-reference.com. I actually did an entry a couple of months ago using Win Shares to compare how well players from the 1989 NBA Draft faired in their careers. Now since I'm not sure how reliable these are, and I didn't want to do a carbon copy of my Award Redos that I do baseball's MVP, I figured I'd just compare the All-NBA teams from the '93-94 season as voted by the media and who were the top players according to these two statiscal formuals. '93-94 All-NBA Teams (media version) First Team F: Karl Malone, Utah (22.9 PER, 37 Win Shares) F: Scottie Pippen, Chicago (23.2 PER, 32 Win Shares) C: Hakeem Olajuwon, Houston (25.3 PER, 43 Win Shares) G: John Stockton, Utah (22.5 PER, 38 Win Shares) G: Latrell Sprewell, Golden State (15.9 PER, 28 Win Shares) Second Team F: Charles Barkley, Phoenix (22.8 PER, 26 Win Shares) F: Shawn Kemp, Seattle (22.9 PER, 32 Win Shares) C: David Robinson, San Antonio (30.7 PER, 52 Win Shares) G: Kevin Johnson, Phoenix (20.6 PER, 28 Win Shares) G: Mitch Richmond, Sacramento (17.7 PER, 18 Win Shares) Third Team F: Derrick Coleman, New Jersey (21.4 PER, 25 Win Shares) F: Dominique Wilkins, Atlanta/L.A. Clippers (21.4 PER, 25 Win Shares) C: Shaquille O'Neal, Orlando (28.5 PER, 47 Win Shares) G: Gary Payton, Seattle (17.8 PER, 27 Win Shares) G: Mark Price, Cleveland (22.7 PER, 26 Win Shares) Now here's the top players by position using Player Efficieny Rating Centers 1. Robinson 2. O'Neal 3. Olajuwon Forwards 1. Pippen 2. Kemp 3. Barkley 4. Malone 5. Chris Webber, Golden State (21.7 PER) 6. Coleman Guards 1. Price 2. Stockton 3. Johnson 4. Eric Murdock, Milwaukee (20.4 PER) 5. Reggie Miller, Indiana (20.2 PER) 6. Rod Strickland, Portland (19.9 PER) Now using Win Shares Centers 1. Robinson 2. O'Neal 3. Olajuwon Forwards 1. Malone 2. Kemp 3. Pippen 4. Otis Thorpe, Detroit (31 Win Shares) 5. Horace Grant, Chicago (30 Win Shares) 6. A.C. Green, Phoenix (29 Win Shares) Guards 1. Stockton 2. Miller 3. Mookie Blaylock, Atlanta (30 Win Shares) 4. Stacey Augmon, Atlanta (29 Win Shares) 5. Johnson 6. Sprewell Probably the most interesting thing is Robinson and O'Neal both coming out ahead of Olajuwon who won the league's MVP and then had that incredible postseason. Sprewell making the All-NBA first team appears to have been way off and I have no problem agreeing with him being overrated. The high PER for Eric Murdock looks a bit odd and he didn't fair to well according to Win Shares (only had 15).
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Time for another redo, this time with one of the most controversial votes ever. 1996 was a year dominated by offense. In the A.L. six teams hit over 200 homeruns, the Baltimore Orioles setting a new record with 257 (broken the very next year by Seattle). Teams in the A.L. averaged 5.39 runs per game and even in the "Steroid Era" that mark hasn't been topped since. Eight A.L. players hit 40 homeruns or more including Brady Anderson's shocking breakout year with 50. In a year with several players having MVP claibar seasons the vote itself really came down to two players, Juan Gonzalez and Alex Rodriguez. Gonzalez would beat out A-Rod by just three voting points as he received one more first place vote than A-Rod. This result would be rightfully criticized as A-Rod clearly had the better year but Gonzalez playing on a division winner and being the more established player certainly influenced the voters. But it was the way A-Rod lost the award that would be so interesting and controversial. First thing was Ivan Rodriugez received a first place vote which was bizarre because he had no where near an MVP season. He'd finish 10th overall, the next highest vote he received was a 5th place vote, and he appeared on less than half of the ballots. Clearly the majority writers did not view Pudge as a legit candidate. It was theorized by some that the writer who voted for I-Rod had meant to vote for A-Rod but accidently switched their names on his ballot. This seemed a bit far fetched and I don't think an answer as to why the writer voted for Pudge was ever cleared up so chalk this up to just a typical idiot baseball writer. Next was the Seattle Mariners' beat writers as they would both give their first place votes for A-Rod's teammate Ken Griffey Jr. and both voted A-Rod third behind Juan Gonzalez. The other 26 A.L. writers gave A-Rod his ten first place votes and only gave Griffey two first place votes. The Mariners' writers had ironically prevented a Seattle player from winning the MVP. But the biggest controversy about the vote involved Oakland A's beat writer John Hickey. He voted A-Rod 7th while no other A.L. writer voted him lower than 4th. He tried to justify voting A-Rod that low essentially because people viewed Ken Griffey Jr. as the MVP of the Mariners and he only voted Griffey 5th so he just had to vote A-Rod lower than him. Of course most people are idiots and most people don't do any research or otherwise they would have realized A-Rod had clearly the better year and that Griffey was really only a marginal candidate in a year with so many big offensive seasons. So just how bad of a choice was Gonzalez? Also should A-Rod have been an absolute slam dunk winner or was there another candidate who you could argue for? Actual Results 1) Juan Gonzalez 2) Alex Rodriguez 3) Albert Belle 4) Ken Griffey Jr. 5) Mo Vaughn 6) Rafael Palmeiro 7) Mark McGwire 8) Frank Thomas 9) Brady Anderson 10) Ivan Rodriguez 11) Kenny Lofton 12) Mariano Rivera 13) Paul Molitor 14) Andy Pettitte 15) Jim Thome 16) Chuck Knoblauch 17t) Jay Buhner 17t) Bernie Williams 19) John Wetteland 20) Roberto Alomar 21) Terry Steinbach #10 .289/.381/.546, 131 RC, 133 OPS+, .313 EQA, 54.0 VORP, 30 Win Shares #9 .326/.420/.583, 153 RC, 148 OPS+, .332 EQA, 76.3 VORP, 29 Win Shares #8 .297/.396/.637, 140 RC, 157 OPS+, .333 EQA, 85.4 VORP, 28 Win Shares #7 .328/.411/.527, 129 RC, 137 OPS+, .320 EQA, 84.2 VORP, 31 Win Shares #6 .311/.450/.612, 138 RC, 166 OPS+, .348 EQA, 83.3 VORP, 28 Win Shares #5 .349/.459/.626, 152 RC, 178 OPS+, .364 EQA, 92.3 VORP, 28 Win Shares #4 .341/.448/.517, 130 RC, 142 OPS+, .330 EQA, 99.3 VORP, 32 Win Shares #3 .312/.467/.730, 142 RC, 203 OPS+, .381 EQA, 91.6 VORP, 29 Win Shares #2 .311/.410/.623, 153 RC, 157 OPS+, .337 EQA, 80.9 VORP, 31 Win Shares #1 .358/.414/.631, 157 RC, 160 OPS+, .341 EQA, 111.8 VORP, 34 Win Shares Aura? Did I already mention how much baseball cards have sucked in the past decade? So there you have it A-Rod was the true MVP in 1996 and really there's no one you can argue over him. There's plenty of guys who had incredible years and there's a lot of agruments for the rest of the list as even as I was typing it I thought of switching guys around but stuck with what I originally came up with. Probably the most interesting case would be McGwire who's numbers are just sick but he only played 130 games. If he managed to play 150+ there would have been a case for him and he may have even made a run at 61 that year (hit 52). Juan Gonzalez was indeed an awful, awful pick as I didn't give him any consideration for the Top 10.
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VORP is on baseballprospectus.com, you can find 2004 and 2005 Win Shares on hardballtimes.com. Win Shares from the last ten years for active players can be found in the 2006 Bill James Handbook and historical Win Shares are available in the acutal Win Shares book. Griffey: .303/.392/.628, 133 RC, 153 OPS+, .333 EQA, 78.7 VORP, 28 Win Shares Gonzalez: .314/.368/.643, 128 RC, 150 OPS+, .319 EQA, 62.2 VORP, 21 Win Shares Griffey had an outstanding year just 1996 was not a normal year for offense but I can see why the writers did give him a lot of support. Gonzalez just comes off as a very lazy choice by the writers. He had a lot of homeruns, a lot of RBI, and his team won their division so the writers voted for him. Of course Albert Belle had a lot of homeruns, a lot of RBI, and his team won their divison but he was Albert Belle so he didn't get the same support but he would have been a better choice. Gonzalez probably also got a boost by the fact that it was the Rangers first division title ever that season which was a pretty big deal but doesn't justify him winning the MVP.
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*sigh* I don't think the A's will ever be satisfied with getting off to a good start. Teased me with the 5-2 start but now have dropped 7 out of 9 with another 9th inning blown today. Bleh. Jason Kendall is burnt toast. He's got nothing left. I'm afraid the same about Frank Thomas. Ya he can still hit homeruns but his bat is sooooo sloooow now.
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I really hated Mike Scott, that's about it.
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Vern asked for it so here it is. All the attention goes to the quarterbacks in the draft but there are some pretty impressive players at other positions that came out of this draft. This draft did live up to the hype. 1. Baltimore - John Elway, QB, Stanford Right FBI Agent: Don't worry Mrs. Simpson we've helped hundreds of people in danger. We'll give you a new name, a new job, new identity. Homer: (Raising hand) Oooh, I want to be John Elway! (Homer starts day dreaming about being John Elway. The ball is snapped to Homer and he dives over the pile into the endzone.) Announcer: Elway takes the snap and runs it in for a touchdown! Thanks to Elway's Patanent last second magic the final score of Super Bowl XXX is Denver 7, San Francisco 56. Homer:(Back to reality) Woo Hoo! 2. L.A. Rams - Eric Dickerson, RB, SMU Probably due to his numerous contract holdouts Dickerson gets left out a lot now when talking about the greatest running back of all-time but he deserves consideration. How about that the #1 and #2 picks lived up to the hype? Doesn't happen very often. 3. Seattle - Curt Warner, RB, Penn State A Penn State running back who wasn't a bust, strange. Had two 1400+ yards seasons. 4. Denver - Chris Hinton, T, Northwestern Obviously didn't stay in Denver as he was traded to Baltimore in the Elway trade. Seven time Pro Bowl selection. 5. San Diego - Billy Ray Smith, LB, Arkansas Took us to the 5th pick to find a non-Pro Bowl player but Smith was decent. Now an awful analyst on FSN's college football show that no one watches. 6. Chicago - Jimbo Covert, T, Pittsburgh Certainly sounded like an offensive lineman. Two Pro Bowl selections. 7. Kansas City - Todd Blackledge, QB, Penn State First true bust of the draft and it's fitting he was the one true bust of the famous quarterback class. 8. Philadelphia - Michael Haddix, RB, Mississippi State Now we're getting some busts. Career high in rushing yards was 311. 9. Houston - Bruce Matthews, G, USC Simply one of the greatest offensive lineman ever. Selected to 14 Pro Bowls. 10. N.Y. Giants - Terry Kinard, S, Clemson Decent, 31 career interceptions. 11. Green Bay - Tim Lewis, CB, Pittsburgh Had 12 interceptions in his first two years but a neck injury forced him into early retirement in 1986. 12. Buffalo - Tony Hunter, TE, Notre Dame Only lasted four years. 13. Detroit - James Jones, RB, Florida Hung around for a while but never cracked 1000 yards and only 3.6 career ypc. 14. Buffalo - Jim Kelly, QB, Miami Didn't join the Bills until 1986 as he spent three years in the USFL with the Houston Gamblers. Inducted into the Hall of Fame in 2002. 15. New England - Tony Eason, QB, Illinois You'll get differing opinions on whether Eason was a bust or not though he had a couple of good years but flamed out pretty quick. 16. Atlanta - Mike Pitts, DE, Alabama Played 12 years despite not being all that good. 17. St. Louis - Leonard Smith, DB, McNeese State Lasted nine seasons. 18. Chicago - Willie Gault, WR, Tennessee Never really broke out as a star but was a big time deep threat. 19. Minnesota - Joey Browner, S, USC 37 career interceptions, six Pro Bowls. 20. San Diego - Gary Anderson, RB, Arkansas Solid all-purpose back who had almost as many receiving yards as rushing. 21. Pittsburgh - Gabriel Rivera, DT, Texas Tech Paralyzed in an accident while driving drunk during his rookie year. Take a bow loser. 22. San Diego - Gill Byrd, CB, San Jose State Holds franchise record for interceptions with 42. 23. Dallas - Jim Jeffcoat, DE, Arizona State Never a star but lasted 15 seasons and had 102 career sacks. 24. N.Y. Jets - Ken O'Brien, QB, UC Davis I don't believe in '83 the draft had an audience yet but it would have been pretty fun to have seen Jets' fans react to them drafting a QB from UC Davis. Selected to two Pro Bowls. 25. Cincinnati - Dave Rimington, C, Nebraska Unspectacular seven year career. 26. L.A. Raiders - Don Mosebar, T, USC Played every o-line position in his 12 year career. 27. Miami - Dan Marino, QB, Pittsburgh Who? 28. Washington - Darrell Green, CB, Texas A&I Another all-time great to close out the first round. Other Players of Note 32. L.A. Rams - Henry Ellard, WR, Fresno State 37. N.Y. Giants - Leonard Marshall, DT, LSU 39. Buffalo - Darryl Talley, LB, West Virginia 49. San Francisco - Roger Craig, RB, Nebraska 61. Kansas City - Albert Lewis, CB, Grambling 64. Chicago - Dave Duerson, S, Notre Dame 84. Washington - Charles Mann, DE, Nevada 110. L.A. Raiders - Greg Townsend, DE, TCU 167. Miami - Reggie Roby, P, Iowa 203. Chicago - Richard Dent, DE, Tennessee State 223. Miami - Mark Clayton, WR, Louisville 276. Cincinnati - Tim Krumrie, DT, Wisconsin 289. San Francisco - Jesse Sapolu, C, Hawaii 310. Denver - Karl Mecklenburg, LB, Minnesota 334. Miami - Anthony Carter, WR, Michigan
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I was wondering if I was the only one he was annoyed by them beating us over the head with the fact that they are in HD. The intro, especially the one for SportsCenter, comes off as so obnoxious as if no other network has HD. After three years I think we all realize that ESPN is in HD and those of use who don't have HD could still careless. On the Fox subject it's interesting that ESPN's downfall of going to more original programming and catering to non-sports fans really started up when Fox Sports Net stopped trying to directly compete with ESPN and dropped it's national highlight shows. I think they feel since there is no real true alternative for national sports coverage that they have no reason to cater to real sports fans as where else are they going to tune in?
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Took a different rout with the next Draftback by just focusing on the top quarterbacks to come out of each draft with brief comments on each class. 1980 Good depth but not one star came out of this class. Marc Wilson only had one year as a starter that he threw more touchdowns than interceptions. Mark Malone had to follow Terry Bradshaw and he was just awful. David Woodley had his 15 minutes of fame when he started Super Bowl XVII but he was not a good quarterback and only lasted until 1985, although as an 8th round pick you’d have to consider him a good value pick. Gary Hogeboom now of course now best know for being a contestant on Survivor. Top 5 Passing Yards 1. Marc Wilson, 15th overall by L.A. Raiders, BYU, 14391 yards 2. Erik Hipple, 85th overall by Detroit, Utah State, 10711 yards 3. Mark Malone, 28th overall by Pittsburgh, Arizona State, 10175 yards 4. Gary Hogeboom, 133rd overall by Dallas, Central Michigan, 9436 yards 5. David Woodley, 214th pick by Miami, LSU, 8558 yards Highest Pick Not to Throw a Pass: Gene Bradley, 37th overall by Buffalo, Arkansas State 1981 Very little depth although did produce two pretty good quarterbacks from small schools in Neil Lomax and Wade Wilson. Rich Campbell was selected 6th overall by the Packers in one of the all-time draft blunders as he threw just 68 passes in the NFL. They passed on Ronnie Lott to pick Campbell. Whoops! Top 5 Passing Yards 1. Neil Lomax, 33rd overall by St. Louis, Portland State, 22771 yards 2. Wade Wilson, 210th overall by Minnesota, East Texas State, 17283 yards 3. Dave Wilson, Supplemental pick by New Orleans, Illinois, 6987 yards 4. Mark Herrmann, 98th overall by Denver, Purdue, 4015 yards 5. Bob Gagliano, 319th overall by Kansas City, Utah State, 3431 yards Highest Pick Not to Throw a Pass: Brad Wright, 96th overall by Miami, New Mexico 1982 Basically just Jim McMahon and a whole lot of nothing. Mike Pagel hung around for a long time as a back up. Does feature one of the greatest busts in sports history as the Colts drafted Art Schlichter as the 4th pick overall who’s career would derail very quickly due to the fact that he was a degenerate gambler. Top 5 Passing Yards 1. Jim McMahon, 5th overall by Chicago, BYU, 18148 yards 2. Mike Pagel, 84th overall by Baltimore, Arizona State, 9414 yards 3. Oliver Luck, 44th overall by Houston, West Virginia, 2544 yards 4. Matt Kofler, 48th overall by Buffalo, San Diego State, 1156 yards 5. Art Schlichter, 4th overall by Baltimore, Ohio State, 1006 yards Highest Pick Not to Throw a Pass: Mike Kelley, 149th overall by Atlanta, Georgia Tech 1983 This draft doesn’t need introduction as it produced three Hall of Famers. Todd Blackledge was the one true bust of this famous 1st round and it’s amazing that he went so high. Bad luck back-to-back years for the Colts as we all know Elway was drafted #1 by them but whined his way into a trade. Top 5 Passing Yards 1. Dan Marino, 27th overall by Miami, Pittsburgh, 61361 yards 2. John Elway, 1st overall by Baltimore, Stanford, 51475 yards 3. Jim Kelly, 14th overall by Buffalo, Miami, 35467 yards 4. Ken O’Brien, 24th overall by N.Y. Jets, UC Davis, 25094 yards 5. Tony Eason, 15th overall by New England, Illinois, 11142 yards Highest Pick Not to Throw a Pass: Jeff Christensen, 137th overall by Cincinnati, Eastern Illinois 1984 No first round quarterback in this draft but it did produce decent depth with one standout in Boomer Esiason and a Super Bowl winner in Jeff Hostetler. I don’t know how Jay Schroeder ended up with 20,000+ yards passing. Top 5 Passing Yards 1. Boomer Esiason, 38th overall by Cincinnati, Maryland, 37920 yards 2. Jay Schroeder, 83rd overall by Washington, UCLA, 20063 yards 3. Jeff Hostetler, 59th overall by N.Y. Giants, West Virginia, 16430 yards 4. Randy Wright, 153rd overall by Green Bay, Wisconsin, 7106 yards 5. Steve Pelluer, 113th overall by Dallas, Washington, 6870 yards Highest Pick Not to Throw a Pass: Rick McIvor, 80th overall by St. Louis, Texas 1984 Supplemental The ’84 Supplemental Draft was different from any other as it was to draft the rights to USFL players (those who NFL teams didn’t own the rights to already) and a handful of CFL players. The draft was three rounds with 84 picks. Steve Young was #1 overall and was only one of two quarterbacks from the draft to throw a pass in the NFL. Young had already signed with the Los Angeles Express so he wasn’t eligible for the regular draft. 1. Steve Young, 1st overall by Tampa Bay, BYU, 33124 yards 2. Frank Seurer, 76th overall by Seattle, Kansas, 340 yards 1985 In terms of overall depth there was very little as there was no quarterback picked in the first round and only 11 quarterbacks selected overall, but a very good group of quarterbacks did come out of this draft all with very different career paths. Due to quirk the in the draft rules at the time because he wasn’t a senior Bernie Kosar was able to declare himself eligible after the regular draft and be taken in the supplemental draft so he could play for his hometown Browns. Top 5 Passing Yards 1. Randall Cunningham, 37th overall by Philadelphia, UNLV, 29979 yards 2. Bernie Kosar, Supplemental pick by Cleveland, Miami, 23301 yards 3. Doug Flutie, 285th overall by L.A. Rams, Boston College, 14715 yards 4. Steve Bono, 142nd overall by Minnesota, UCLA, 10439 yards 5. Frank Reich, 57th overall by Buffalo, Maryland, 6075 yards Highest Pick Not to Throw a Pass: Scott Barry, 168th overall by San Francisco, UC Davis 1986 Lots of quarterbacks drafted in the first few rounds but some what of an underwhelming group led by Jim Everett and Mary Rypien. Featured a pretty big bust in Chuck Long. I always hated Bubby Brister. Come on his name was Bubby! Top 5 Passing Yards 1. Jim Everett, 3rd overall by Houston, Purdue, 34837 yards 2. Mark Rypien, 146th overall by Washington, Washington State, 18473 yards 3. Bubby Brister, 67th overall by Pittsburgh, NE Louisiana, 14445 yards 4. Jack Trudeau, 47th overall by Indianapolis, Illinos, 10243 yards 5. Hugh Millen, 71st overall by L.A. Rams, Washington, 6440 yards Highest Pick Not to Throw a Pass: Robbie Bosco, 72nd overall by Green Bay, BYU 1987 Doesn’t the have star power of the ’83 Draft but this was a very deep quarterback class with four first round picks. Just outside the Top 5 in passing yards was Packers quarterback Don Majkowski who had one great season in 1989 but injuries derailed his career. Draft does feature a huge bust in Kelly Stouffer who the Cardinals picked 6th overall. A first round bust by the Cardinals? Go figure. Top 5 Passing Yards 1. Vinny Testaverde, 1st overall by Tampa Bay, Miami, 45252 yards 2. Rich Gannon, 98th overall by New England, Delaware, 28743 yards 3. Jim Harbaugh, 26th overall by Chicago, Michigan, 26288 yards 4. Steve Beurlein, 110th overall by L.A. Raiders, Notre Dame, 24046 yards 5. Chris Miller, 13th overall by Atlanta, Oregon, 19320 yards Highest Pick Not to Throw a Pass: Doug Hudson, 186th overall by Kansas City, Nicholls State 1988 Although it did produce two quarterbacks who started Super Bowls, this was an incredibly weak class with zero depth. No quarterback was taken until the 3rd round when the Cardinals picked Tom Tupa who’s long term future ended being as a punter. Of the 13 qb’s selected, only five threw a pass in the NFL. Did feature two CFL standouts in Danny McManus and Kerwin Bell. Top 5 Passing Yards 1. Chris Chandler, 76th overall by Indianapolis, Washington, 28484 yards 2. Stan Humphries, 159th overall by Washington, NE Louisiana, 17191 yards 3. Tom Tupa, 68th overall by Phoenix, Ohio State, 3430 yards 4. Scott Secules, 151st overall by Dallas, Virginia, 1311 yards 5. Kerwin Bell, 180th overall by Miami, Florida, 75 yards Highest Pick Not to Throw a Pass: Don McPherson, 149th overall by Philadelphia, Syracuse 1989 Pretty much the Troy Aikman class although I suppose Rodney Peete had his moments. Cowboys picked Aikman #1 overall and then took Steve Walsh in the supplemental draft. Many thought Walsh would be better than Aikman. Many of us don’t know anything. 1. Troy Aikman, 1st overall by Dallas, UCLA, 32942 yards 2. Rodney Peete, 141st overall by Detroit, USC, 16338 yards 3. Billy Joe Tolliver, 51st overall by San Diego, Texas Tech, 10760 yards 4. Steve Walsh, Supplemental Pick by Dallas, 7875 yards 5. Timm Rosenbach, Supplemental Pick by Phoenix, Washington State, 3676 yards Highest Pick Not to Throw a Pass: Jeff Graham, 87th overall by Green Bay, Long Beach State
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I believe he had some nagging injuries. The problem with Eason was he was easily rattled by pressure. In the playoffs following the 1986 season the Patriots were at Denver and late in the game Eason crumbled to the ground in the endzone for a safety...before he even got hit. It pretty much put the game away for the Broncos and his reputation was basically cemented from there. He took a lot shit for that play and mentally I don't think he recovered from it.
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I'll have to jump on the Sharks bandwagon then. I wouldn't have considered myself diehard but during the mid to late 90's I followed them pretty closely but in recent years I've lost all interest in hockey. I've been meaning to watch them more this year after they traded for Joe Thorton but just haven't done it.
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Just got a home a little while ago from my first A's game of the year against the Rangers. There's that old cheesy saying that everytime you watch a baseball game you might see something you've never seen before and today was that day for me. Was really looking forward to seeing Rich Harden pitch since he came pretty damn close to throwing a no hitter against the Rangers last season and seeing Baseball Tonight's favortie pitcher Vincente Padilla. The weather was miserable early as we've had about six weeks straight of rain in the Bay Area and it although it never really poured today there was non-stop drizzle for about the first three innings. It was evident early on that Harden wasn't on today as he had trouble finding the strike zone and would end up walking five on the day. In the 4th Mark Teixeira lead off with a double to right, missing a homerun by about two feet. Phil Nevin came up next and I saw something I'm not sure I've seen before or at least something you don't see very often. He grounded to ball to right to Marco Scutaro for Buster Olney's favorite thing a productive out. Atlhough it didn't turn out that way as Scutaro from 2nd threw to 3rd to get Teixeira. You'll often see that play made by a shortstop but I don't know if I've a second baseman make that play. Of course there's a fine line in baseball between a head's up play and a stupid play and I'm not sure Teixeira didn't beat the throw to 3rd, I was on the first base side so I didn't have a good view of the play, but they got the out and probably saved a run that inning. Now a fielder's choice isn't exactly something I'm gonna remember or worth a blog entry over but I did have something to remember in the 6th. In the 5th, Nick Swisher made a nice leaping grab against the wall to rob Gerald Laird of extra bases and then with two out in the bottom of the inning crushed a towering homerun to right to give the A's a 2-1 lead. Harden seemed to be settling in by then but with two out in the 6th he competely lost the strike zone again, walking Michael Young and Teixeira. Next batter, Nevin, homerun, 4-2 Rangers, and the A's staring at a 5th straight loss. But then it happeend in the bottom of the inning. Eric Chavez. First pitch. Homerun. Frank Thomas. First pitch. Homerun. Milton Bradley. First pitch. Homerun. Three pitches, three homeruns, and that's it for Padilla. Absolutely amazing stuff. I've never seen back-to-back-to-back homeruns live in person and I don't think I've ever seen it happen on three straight pitches, let alone the first three pitches of an inning. Very cool to see a first ballot Hall of Famer in Thomas mixed in there as well. The rest of the game was fairly uneventful but that was a moment I'll never forget. Since this blog is about nostalgia for the most part and since I'm talking about the A's and three homeruns might as well bring up the times I've seen three homeruns by one player in person. First one came on May 7, 1991 against Baltimore as Harold Banies hit three homeruns. Hit a two run homerun off of Ben McDonald in the 1st, a three run homerun off of Dave Johnson in the 4th, and a solo homerun off of Jeff Robinson it the 6th. He had a chance for a four homeruns in the 8th but they Orioles walked him. Second time I saw it happen was June 11, 1999 against Los Angeles as Miguel Tejada pulled off the feat. Two run homer against Carlos Perez in the 1st, two run homer against Onan Masaoka in the 3rd, and solo homerun against Doug Bochtler in the 7th.
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I was at the game today and that was simply awesome. First game I've ever been to with back-to-back-to-back homeruns and to see it on three consecutive pitches (the first three of the inning) was amazing and especially cool to see the Big Hurt mixed in there for the three straight.
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So was there in out cry in Pittsburgh when Kevin Young was making more money than Honus Wagner made in his whole lifetime?