Enigma

Well, if Keith really is reading this... ...get a haircut. No, really. ...this match sucked.

Cena hasn't improved? John Cena pulled out a ***+ match against The Undertaker and has been having consistently good-to-great matches with the likes of UT, Benoit, and Guerrero since his very lackluster Backlash WWE Title Match with Brock Lesnar, which can be attributed to a cold Cena had the day of the event which is reasonable if true. Cena, in my eyes, has really stepped up his workrate game in the past few months. His great match with UT at Vengeance really opened my eyes.

Is Scott Keith's Smackdown rant up yet? I checked after the show went off and it wasn't up, which it usually is at that time because Canada gets it one hour sooner. I can't wait to see how he trashes this match.

I don't mind Kurt jobbing. But I do mind jobbing it to Lesnar. Let somebody new hold the belt for pete's sake.

Some more matwork? That statement would imply that they actually did some, which they didn't.

The fact that you mentioned UT cancels out those other suggestions. That's how bad of a champion candidate UT is.

I love irony! Suggesting UT winning the title and the excuse being to let someone else hold it. Heh!

Meltzer says the main event for Survivor Series is set to be UT vs. Vince in a Buried Alive match, which means UT will probably get screwed over by McMahon at No Mercy while Lesnar retains.

HartFan86 YES. THANK YOU. I was waiting the entire match for Angle to hit Brock with the Super German Suplex but he never did it. Another negative from the long list in this match.

Hate to say it but 30 minutes in, I said to myself, "Wow, this match sucks." The rest of the match didn't improve. How amateur wrestling veterans like Lesnar and Angle can do a match for 60 minutes and not even do one sequence of chain wrestling is mind-boggling. This match was just 60 minutes of non-stop crap. Nothing but weapons, stalling, ref bumps, more stalling, 50,000 german suplexes, even more stalling, and complete overuse of finishers. Unbelievably disappointing. I expected more from these guys than this shit.

Forgive me for being naive, but what exactly does Randy Savage *hate* Hulk Hogan for?

Rob Conway should paint himself green from now on.

Triple H will say to all the villains "DO YOU KNOW WHO THE HELL I AM?!?!?" "YOU CAN'T HOLD MY CHAPS!!!"

I don't expect WWE.Com will report this, so if Meltzer reports it, I'll believe it.

Was it wrong of me to send an e-mail to Jericho questioning his Christianity after his post-KOTR '02 tirade?

Can someone sneak in Juventud Guerrera and a trunk full of X for him?

Even though Hurricane is the man for beating Buff Bagwell's bitch ass with an ice pack, I have to fault him on this one based on how the story was reported. The story states that all Mack was doing was suggesting other match ideas and Hurricane was shooting them down, citing himself as the veteran and that he should call it. Now, given what I read in Meltzer's newsletter about Hurricane being the one instigating the Goldberg/Jericho fight, I can definitely see Helms being a bitch in this category. Even though he's praised for beating up Bagwell, we must examine what he did. He attacked another person over a disagreement. And seeing his involvement on the Bagwell issue and the Goldberg/Jericho scuffle, I can definitely see Hurricane being given the fair and just blame on this one. As much as I would hate to see it, a punishment to Helms in my opinion would be justified.

I hope it was equal the greatness of the Ken Shamrock/Steve Blackman parking lot brawl from Fully Loaded 1999. What a time-honored classic.

Remember when HHH and Vince botched the first Pedigree attempt during the HHH/Steph Vow Renewing ceremony? Think of that Pedigree only 10x worse.

I was disappointed for three reasons: 1) The video quality in some portions of the show was absolutely horrible and looked like an aged video tape. 2) The AMW/XXX cage match was no where near this supposed match of the year quality that I've heard so much about from the likes of Dave Meltzer. This was the first time I got to see the entire match. Sure, the finish was great, but the rest was pretty sloppy. Elix messed up at least 3 spots. A MOTY candidate doesn't feature someone slipping on the way to the top rope. 3) The show got immensely boring after the Cage Match when it turned into the Jeff Jarrett Appreciation Hour.

I've read the entire thread and I still don't see why the links uploaded to the spaceports URL don't work

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I recall the two members of the Mean Street Posse who were Shane's actual friends, Pete Gas & Rodney, going to OVW and actually becoming pretty passable workers compared to what they once were. But the word is they quit wrestling when they were released from WWE so all that ability has probably rusted away.

They put it as "Manster" a couple times