LucharesuFan619

Patrick Govern is an asshole.

" IWA, FWA Rev Pro etc. have far superior products. None of those promotions, by the by, got a dime out of those deals." This is debateable, especially with Rev. Pro. Considering the roster XPW had when the agreement was made, their roster was - in simple terms - really fucking talented. "BJPW and CZW on the surface do, but for whatever reason, the interpromotional matches never clicked. A lot of them are very disjointed and hard to watch- either because of the language barrier, the relative inexperience of the CZW guys at the time, or they do ultraviolence differently overseas. Plus, the BJPW feud brought such stellar moments as Ric Blade breaking Winger's face, Winger stinking up BOTB1, and Wifebeater almost killing Yamakawa." The feud produced many memorable matches. What about the death match between Zandig and Honma? That was one of the best death matches I've ever seen. The BJPW guys carried Wifebeater on not one, but SEVERAL occasions to an actually PASSABLE TECHNICAL match, not to say he was Bret Hart, but their talent was so abundant that they were able to carry him to passable matches. BSB had some great tag team matches with Teioh, Sekimoto, Fujita, etc. and Gage and Hatred had many teriffic singles matches and tag team matches with Kanemura, Honma, WX, Kasai, etc. Their styles are quite similar. Kanemura's style is VERY similar to Gage/Hatred's styles. Teioh and Acid's styles blended beautifully. Kasai's style and Mondo's, Pain's, etc.'s blended great. And dude, IWA-MS' roster is far and beyond that of CZW's roster. You're going to compare Zandig, Mondo, Messiah (a guy a rival company made), Hatred, and Gage to Ian, Hero, Punk, Cabana, Gooch, Tony, Webb, etc.? There's no comparison. CZW is working with a company that is considerably ahead of them in terms of talent, just like XPW and it's "developmental" promotions.

So, basically, the midcarders of JAPW are the backbone of ROH. That's all dandy with me, I guess...

"as both companies have complementary styles." Yeah, and CZW and BJPW CLEARLY didn't have complementary styles. Please... "Funny how an "XPW development territory" (I can barely type that without laughing) is now working with Zandig." Seeing as how XPW is now in hiatus, I don't see it as "funny." The IWA-MS guys have to work somewhere, and seeing as how IWA-MS isn't doing too well right now, they took the offer from Sandig. I don't see what's wrong with that.

Jasmin calls Francine "unprofessional," yet runs a pornography website. Talk about being an unprofessional bitch...

I hardly consider it an invasion when only three wrestlers "invade," one of which is a guy who's been working for the company that is "invading" for only a few months (Bailey).

You're not in the innocent party here? That'd be an understatement, seeing as how you just took an unwarranted cheap shot towards me by calling me "Barbie." Why don't you do the mature thing and not resort to such things and just end the crap, like I've done so many times already, only to get bashed again? It reveals your immaturity.

Sandman, I'm still waiting for your response to my post in the other thread. Why must you make such a big deal about a little thing and criticize me and then not even have the character to give me at least some response?

More liked than me? HAHAHAHA!!! PLEASE... And you started the XPW talk in this thread. I apologize on your part for your own ignorance. Please accept my apologies. And stop blindly bashing XPW while you're at it. Hypocrite. WINNER: Me. LOSERS: Sandman9000 and Nevermortal. Nevermortal is more liked then you Barber. And with your reputation, I can't imagine finding too many people who are liked less then you. As for XPW, this is the FIRST time in this thread I've mentioned those initials. So I fail to see how I started the XPW talk in this thread. As for bashing XPW, I'll be the first person to admit I've done that in the past. However, I've gotten out of that habit. No sense in beating a dead horse with a stick. But, by all means Barber, don't let reality hinder your imagination from telling you what to believe. Man, when you have to waste your time making a poll like that, you KNOW you're a loser. LMFAO at how you waste your time, UBLISTBSGSE or whatever in the hell you're name is. Sandman9000, you're a hypocrite, but not only that, your memory only remembers things that you want to remember. You irrationally bashed Rob Black in your first post in this thread. Did you forget that already? Do you realize that you're saying everything to me that would actually relate to me? You talk about "beating a dead horse" and yet go around continuing the talk about a business move that occurred more than half a year ago? Think.

More liked than me? HAHAHAHA!!! PLEASE... And you started the XPW talk in this thread. I apologize on your part for your own ignorance. Please accept my apologies. And stop blindly bashing XPW while you're at it. Hypocrite. WINNER: Me. LOSERS: Sandman9000 and Nevermortal.

At the June 7 Heritage Wrestling Association show, former-XPW star GQ Money announced that he and Kaos were going to go their separate ways. Since exiting XPW in March due to creative differences with XPW management, the two have teamed with J-Love to form Hollywood Inc., an immensely popular duo that even received matches in NWA-TNA. However, according to a recent press release by HWA, GQ and Kaos both want to show that they can succeed on their own in the pro wrestling business and they will now be wrestling as singles competitors on different shows. HWA's press release also stated that Kaos would become a full-time HWA wrestler. Both Kaos and GQ had singles matches on the June 7 HWA show, but each came out alone. There is no word on where J-Love fits into the equation now. Serious rumors had surfaced that she and GQ were dating, so it's unknown if they're still together or if they broke up and will also part ways. This is an immense shock to many XPW and indy wrestling fans in general. GQ and Kaos worked together incredibly well and together created some of the most entertaining backstage segments, interviews, guest commentaries, and matches to ever be seen in XPW. Behind the scenes, it was very well known that they were the absolute best of friends. For more on the departure of the two from XPW and their history within XPW, go to HouseOfXtreme.com and check out my recent column on the aforementioned subject. HollywoodIncDotCom.com, the official site of the trio, now has a graphic on the main page that says "The party is over" with a picture of the trio crossed out, clearly signifying that they have in fact gone their separate ways. HouseOfXtreme.com would like to send their deepest thanks to GQ and especially Kaos for the devotion to XPW that they exemplified throughout each of their tenures in the promotion. We would also like to wish all three members of the former-Hollywood Inc. faction the best of luck in their future endeavors in professional wrestling and life in general. For more on J-Love, check out MyValentina.com. I hope to have comments from either GQ or J-Love on this subject within the next few days.

- Montreal - HLA - ECW-XPW HeatWave incident - Hogan-Russo shoot - Pillman's ECW shoot - Vader attacks the talk show host dude - Mass Transit incident "Black Sunday in 1984 " Enlighten me, please. To what are you referring?

His promo right after NYR1 upon entering XPW (it was aired on XPW TV) was one of the best promos I've ever seen him making. Classic stuff.

Saturn also works in Japan.

Ignorance, eh? XPW is dead. They haven't ran a show in months. Rob Black is being investigated by the government. They've lost their home base on the East Coast. Douglas is in TNA now. How much more evidence do you need? XPW IS DEAD. I'll say it again... "We have a situation here where somebody is running their mouth about a topic that they have no knowledge about." - Vince McMahon, to Bob Costas. XPW is far from dead. You're talking out of your ass. I'll say what everyone has been saying for months now. No one takes you seriously. Kill yourself. It's funny how - you a guy who talks out of his ass so often - think that you're actually respected on this board. It's really hilarious, man. Unfortunately, you're too naive to understand the whole joke.

Ignorance, eh? XPW is dead. They haven't ran a show in months. Rob Black is being investigated by the government. They've lost their home base on the East Coast. Douglas is in TNA now. How much more evidence do you need? XPW IS DEAD. I'll say it again... "We have a situation here where somebody is running their mouth about a topic that they have no knowledge about." - Vince McMahon, to Bob Costas. XPW is far from dead. You're talking out of your ass.

" I was under the impression that you have to actually EXIST to have a rival. As we all know, XPW does not exist." Ignorance. TNA and XPW both put out similar products and use the same wrestlers (Siaki, Malice, Raven, Lynn, Dinero, Credible, Douglas, etc.). They're not direct rivals, I'll take that back. They are sort of rivals, though. You're right in that they don't go head to head or anything, but they use the same wrestlers and have had problems with each other in terms of double bookings (as Sonny Siaki pointed out on his message board several months ago). The point is that New Jack is anything but reliable. To take his word for granted is laughable.

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^MOST IGNORANT POST EVER^ BAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA! LAUGHIN MY FUCKIN ASS OFF! BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You're going to believe NEW JACK? Oh my God...HAHAHA! New Jack has lied so many times and has shot on every promoter he's ever worked for. The only reason he said that about Black is because he now works for TNA, a direct rival of XPW. You must be joking, man. LMAO. Because we all know New Jack's word is the gospel, right?

One day - Yap paid New Jack to shoot on XPW for bouncing a check that they never even bounced. A few days later - Yap bounced his check to New Jack for shooting on XPW for bouncing a check that they never even bounced. Irony expemplified.

Actually, anybody can argue with me and if they're reasonable and logical, they're going to win the argument. It's those who are too immature to actually argue their points and instead resort to saying crap like that which you just uttered that come off as ignorant. I've stated facts in this thread, have I not? It's not my fault so many must resort to bullsh*t comebacks. "CZW didn't steal any wrestlers from JAPW- Berk, Blade and the Backseats were working for JAPW and CZW simultaneously for quite some time. When Berk got a concussion in a JAPW match, right before he was booked for CZW, Zandig gave the remaining "floating wrestlers" (unsure whether Blade was still with CZW at the time) a choice, him or them, and they chose CZW." False. Berk and Acid were both made in JAPW. I apologize for doing my research, but Fat Frank Iaveia was the only man on Earth willing to give a 16 year old Trent Acid a chance to wrestle in front of a crowd. He wouldn't be where he is without JAPW. Nor would Berk. CZW began the war. You seem to not have done your research. Blade left CZW because Zandig refused to pay for his medical costs that came from the result of an incident at a CZW show called Take One. He didn't leave the company because he was disgruntled. LucharesuFan619 - 1 point Others - -1 points (note the "-" sign) Oh, and I never said Messiah deserved whwat he got. In fact, had you read my full explanation, you would notice a sentence that addresses that very issue. He didn't deserve to get his thumb cut off; He did - maybe not in the moral world, but in the real world - deserve some type of revenge. That damn sure doesn't mean getting his thumb getting cut off. A lawsuit for character defamation would be more suitable. Of course he didn't deserve what he got. But what he did - under your very own reasoning - he asked for by saying what he did about Black. Under my reasoning (being that Black wasn't involved), it was a coincidence that it happened to Messiah, one of billions and billions of people in this world who happen to have dislike for their boss.

"So if someone insults someone else for a year, they are allowed to cut their thumb off?" Somebody's comprehensions skills absolutely suck because never did I say that. "So XPW only called the Viking Hall the XPW arena because CZW did?" No, they called it that because CZW, JAPW, MECW, and all of the other promotions that have ran in Viking Hall called it that. "If someone says something in Heel Character mode, is it true?" Of course not. Is it true that Viking Hall should be called the CZW Arena? Of course not, but that's what Z-Barr said. By your logic, anything anybody says - including Rob Black's shoot comments on ECW - are all false because he said them as a heel. Get real. CZW disrespected the arena. "XPW employees are going to be completely unbiased when talking about being ejected from Viking Hall, they would never lie" No, they wouldn't, considering many weren't with the company anymore, so they have no obligation to lie. I also got the info from some ex-employees who left with heat with the company, and even THEY told me that there were never any such plans. Never was such a thing reported by anybody, either. You're making stuff up. "If you get trained after backyarding, does it not count?" Ruckus was never trained, even after his backyard days. The training Cash, GQ, and the others you named were minimal. Very minimal. Most of their experience come from backyard matches, as so many people on this board have already pointed out. I repeat: "We have a situation hear where you are running your mouth about a subject that you have absolutely no knowledge of." - Vince McMahon, to Bob Costas

"We have a situation hear where you are running your mouth about a subject that you have absolutely no knowledge of." - Vince McMahon, on Bob Costas That exemplifies what so many of you are doing here. Firstly, some factual corrections because not even the CZW fans who posted in this thread have a lot of knowledge about CZW. - Ric Blade left CZW because Zandig refused to pay for his medical coverage upon him getting injured at a CZW show. "A couple of factual errors in the first paragraph. First of all, at the time, JAPW WAS a direct rival to CZW, a very heated rival- CZW was in Jersey around the time. And Blade, in his quit post, certainly DID put JAPW over and bury CZW." That quote is false. He never shitted on CZW while in JAPW. And CZW began the heat with JAPW by stealing so many of the wrestlers they had grown from teenage wrestling fans into indy wrestlers, i.e. Trent Acid, Nick Berk, Reckless Youth, and so many others. - His thumb injury came a year off after he jumped to CZW. Throughout that first year, he repeatedly slandered Rob Black, defamated his character, spread false rumors, accused Black of criminal actions, and other things. What Messiah did was walk into Harlem and start calling all the black people there the "n" word. - "And Extreme Associates wanted to SHOOT AND STORE PORN IN VIKING HALL. That's defecating on the building, quite literally." Now, you are resorting to straight out lying. That is 100% false and I know that for a fact, seeing as how I've spoken to several current and former EA employees on several occasions. Some more factual corrections: Cash and GQ were backyard wrestlers before being trained by CZW alumni. Same goes with Ruckus. And Sonjay. And M-Dogg. And J-Pro. And Zandig was not trained by Johnny Rodz. He was trained by a "Iron" Mike Sharpe (who worked some WWF shows years ago) who trained him out of his garage. And people say I don't know whawt I'm talking about. Funny how I seem to be whipping the asses of ShooterJay, Sandman9000, anbd so many others in this thread who know nothing about CZW. Oh, and another thing - to the guy who said that the thing where Z-Barr bashed ECW at COD3 was an angle...DUH. Who cares, though? He defacated on the ECW Arena by saying that it's the CZW Arena before CZW even ran a show there. What followed was - thanks to his and other CZW wrestler and management's disrespect - the whole indy circuit following their lead and naming the arena after themselves before they evne ran a show there.

"It wasn't that he quit the company, it was how he blamed the fans and put over a rival company in doing so. It's similar to the ways in which M-Dogg, Josh Pro, and Justice left the company." Actually, no, it was a lot different. Blade didn't even go to a rival company, man. He wrestled for small indies during his abscence from CZW? Do you consider JAPW a direct rival for CZW? Get real. Blade didn't even work for a rival company, let alone put one over. Why shouldn't Pain leave CZW? The locker room was constantly pissing on him. And why the hell shouldn't Rob Black take him, along with the other two guys? Try not being so blind when it comes to putting over CZW. Yeah, it's OK for Zandig to pay himself, his announcers, and The Messiah to verbally slander and threaten Rob Black, but it's not OK for Rob Black to retaliate by hiring three of their mid to upper midcard guys. Get real... And why shouldn't Rob Black come to XPW? Yeah, it's fine for CZW to come to the ECW Arena and pay Z-Barr, Zandig, and other wrestlers of theirs to verbally piss all over the legacy of the ECW Arena, like they did so many times at COD3, among other shows, by bashing the former talent of the building and calling it the CZW Arena, but it's not OK for XPW to book a date in August that NO OTHER PROMOTION had booked.

HouseOfXtreme.com has also put up a music video of the Jonny Storm/Jerry Lynn match at XPW NYR3 and the full match of Christian York vs. Chris Chetti vs. Sonny Siaki vs. Psychosis. To download both, register for the HouseOfXtreme.com Forum, enter the XPW Media section, and you'll have no problem from there. http://www.HouseOfXtreme.com/