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CZW is turning into a fucking spot show. That's really been the impression I'm getting from the last few shows of their's I've seen. I'll admit to not being a fan of they're bringing in all the ROH and IWA-MS guys (Shelley, Strong, Lethal, etc.), but at least thos guys bought wrestling skills. Javi Air, James Newblood, Heretic, Spyral, Ghost Shadow, AMIL, and Ruckus are great spot workers, but nothing more. Chris Cash has and always will suck, H8 Club's overness is going down the drain thanks to horrible booking, the one good wrestler they have there every show (Chris Hero) is being wasted worse than anyone could've predicted, Kaos' overness (he was over crazy for his first two shows) has been killed due to shitty booking, and there's so many IWS guys it's turning into a fucking IWS show. The only good thing these days is Dragon & Excalibur and the Team Cash vs. Blackout feud. Nothing else appeals to me these days in CZW. Why must Zandig screw up so badly a roster as good as the one he has? He needs to bring back Trent, Johnny, and Rebel ASAP. Frankie the Mobster, Sexxxy Eddy, Kevin Steen, Excess69, Flying Hurricanes, Beef Wellington, El Generico...where's the CZW? I will admit to digging CKNY's heelwork. They were indeed 2004 TAG TEAM OF THE YEAR~! IMO, although by default more than anything due to CZW's lackluster tag team division. PS - and B-Boy's also being wasted.

I'm in a shitty mood, sorry.

You can read? Cheers! Apparently so. Somehow I think Yap should keep this stuff private. It's none of our business..... it is however pretty funny in a sick kinda way. Dude, I posted the original post in the thread. Nothing in that post indicated that Messiah was arrested. It's called a "FOLLOWUP POST" to indicate that if you're interested, you should keep reading because there's more to the thread than just that original post.

It says Messiah was arrested a few weeks ago...

CREDIT: ProWrestlingWar.com forums I read Billy Boy's little whinefest a while back and wanted to sit on it a little before responding. Unfortunately, I can't say a lot right now for reasons that I - again, unfortunately - can't get into. In time, I will. When I do, it will be IN DETAIL. However, what I CAN say for now is THIS - Yes, I am one of the "hatters" he so eloquently refers to (if not the MAIN one). With all that has transpired between us, I think I have every reason to be a Messiah-hatter. This hatter was also the LAST person to make contact with him, despite him saying that he's "easy to contact." Of course, in typical Billy Bitchboy fashion, he didn't return the call because of feelings of incredible guilt over everything that he's done. For a guy who goes through tables for a living, he's a chickenshit little bitch at heart who will NEVER have the balls to confront my scrawny 150-lb. ass. Shit, I HOPE he confronts me. I'm easy to find. I always have been. EVERYONE knows where I'll be on January 14th and 15th. Show up, BITCH! I fucking DARE you! He states that he gets a big kick outta hearing about some of the stuff said about him/done to call him out. HA! If he gets SUCH a big kick outta it, why did he FLY OFF THE HANDLE at Jack Evans (at COD6) when, upon asking Jack what the boys in various locker rooms think about him moving in on his former boss's FAMILY, Jack reluctantly replied, "Well, they all think it's something you have a HISTORY of doing." Again, if he gets SUCH a big kick outta it, why would he ask my ex/mother to my daughter (which he now selfishly proclaims as HIS daughter), to please call my MOTHER and ask that I stop MAKING FUN OF HIM? For the record - TO NO AVAIL, mind you. There's NOBODY who can make me stop doing what I wanna do. But I haven't even STARTED on you, Billy. Hey - remember that time we all went to Disco Machine's house for his birthday and you made out with Disco's wife in the backyard while he was in the living room with the guys? HA! Man, you are TRULY a great friend! Good times. Y'know, Hailey/Renell once told me, "Go ahead and tell everyone about all of the married women that Billy has messed around with! All it will do is make him MORE popular!" The saddest part is that she's probably right. I'd like to believe differently, though. But hey, every morning you wake up and look at your nine fingers, you can always keep telling yourself that you're a good person. After all, like you said, it wasn't YOUR fault that you stuck your dick in Rob Black's wife. Repeatedly. It was HER fault, right? I know, I know -You NEVER do anything wrong. You're QUOTING THE BIBLE and, as we all know, ANYONE who quotes the Good Book can't be a bad guy! You ARE right about one thing, Billy. I AM a miserable sunnuvabitch! It's been OVER A YEAR since I've been ALLOWED to see my 3-year old daughter because you and my ex have WITHHELD her from me, as well as her own 10-year old SISTER! You've both RELIED on me being unable to hire an attorney to fight for my rights as HER FATHER! I am VERY glad that you believe in karma, Bitch, because it WILL come back to you - to the BOTH of you! If it's the last thing on this planet that I do, I PROMISE YOU it will come back to the both of you! I'll simply leave you all with this. Please let the following just sit with you... A man is ATTACKED in his home! He has his thumb cut OFF! He is beaten and left for dead! And NOBODY - Not his friends from high school that he grew up with nor his friends from wrestling whom he trained/worked with - - is there for him. NOBODY! Nobody except for ONE PERSON. One person who didn't even know him all that well. One person who convinced him not to run away from anything, including a profession that he was set to abandon. One person who rallied an entire area to his cause. One person who took him into his home, made him a part of his family, and loved him like a brother. One person who would have died for him. One person who was REPEATEDLY called an IDIOT for doing ANY of that in the first place, having not seen the writing already on the wall. NOBODY was there for that man who was attacked because they ALL thought - quite frankly - he DESERVED it. Only the beginning, Bitch. Only the fucking beginning. - Gary

It's BAAAAAAACK!!!!!! Part 3: The Story of Xtreme Pro Wrestling completed on Sunday, January 30, 2005 In mid-1998, shortly before he moved in with Tom Byron, the first inkling of an involvement in the pro wrestling industry by Rob Black revealed itself. He was visiting some relatives in his hometown of Rochester, NY at the same time that then-Extreme Championship Wrestling (ECW) Tag Team Champions and current-WWE RAW superstars The Dudley Boys (Buh Buh Ray & D-Von) and their right-hand man, the colossal Big Dick Dudley, were in town to plug an upcoming ECW show in the area. The three Dudley clan members had granted a rare autograph signing for ECW fans at Rochester’s “Ontario Video and News Store,” which was owned and operated by Black’s brother, Dominick (not to be confused with their father, whose name is spelled with a "c"). Dominick telephoned his brother and urged him to drive to the store because Buh Buh Ray (real name: Mark Lamonica) and Big Dick (real name: Alex Rizzo) wanted to meet him after viewing and enjoying several of his porn productions. Black found this news very appealing due to his fascination with pro wrestling ever since he was eight or nine years old. He ended up spending most of the day chatting with Rizzo and – even more so – Lamonca next to a waterhole near his brother’s store. The conversation resulted in Black being invited to attend two of ECW's future live events – one in Baton Rouge and the other in New Orleans. Black jumped at the opportunity, realizing that this could give him a chance to develop inter-promotional business between ECW and Extreme Associates if things turned out right. Being that this was before Black had met Janet Romano (a.k.a. Lizzy Borden), he was dating porn star Nikki Strassner, and actually, before going out with Nikki, Black had been engaged to yet another porn actress, by the name of Tricia Devereaux. Together, Nikki, Tom Byron, and Black took a flight to Louisiana to see ECW’s action firsthand, but even more importantly to talk business-related matters with ECW. Aware that the trio intended to meet with ECW officials later in the evening, the promotion’s management assigned security guards to watch over Black and his crew during the show. The trio was provided with front-row tickets for the Friday, May 29, 1998 Baton Rouge show, but even so, mobs of fans confronted them for autographs throughout the night. Byron was by far the most popular subject of such requests, although Nikki also found herself quite an attraction among the fans (who were primarily middle-aged males). One fan actually tried to stick his hand up Nikki’s buttocks during the event, resulting in his being expelled from the venue by the security team. Byron was quite a hit not only with fans, but with ECW officials. Several of them teased him from the ring, in between matches, about how he was the most popular man in the building that night. Their assessments were by no means a stretch, as ECW management – aware of the notoriety that their guests of the night possessed – incorporated Black and Byron's presence into the show itself. Both pornographers leaned over the guardrail and got into the faces of the Dudley Boys as the tag team champions made their entrance in preparation for the night’s main event. Black and Byron proceeded to heckle the duo with a barrage of insults that included “You suck," "Fuck you," and "You piece of shit!" Those antics, not surprisingly, were received very positively by the other fans in attendance, since the Dudleys were at the peak of their heel run around this period of time. Black and his gang’s fraternization with ECW’s wrestlers and employees continued after the show ended and even into the following day, only on a more casual (and non-scripted) basis. Besides the Dudleys, Black, Byron, and Nikki mingled with an ECW all-star contingent that included New Jack, Justin Credible, Tommy Dreamer, Danny Doring, Francine Fournier, Shane Douglas, and even promoter Paul Heyman. Half a decade later, Douglas (who Lamonica introduced to Black) would end up playing an instrumental role in XPW's rise to national prominence and also – as some would argue – its ultimate downfall. At this point, however, no such idea crossed Black, Douglas, or anyone else’s mind, as the only thing they were concerned with was the possibility of working together to develop interest in the respective ECW and Extreme Associate brands of entertainment. Even though Black and his friends were popular with several of ECW’s wrestlers and management, Black’s best friends in the pro wrestling business remained Lamonica and Rizzo. His camaraderie with the two performers actually survived the fallout between Extreme Associates and ECW management and continued through XPW’s run (of course, Rizzo’s unfortunate death in 2002 ended the relationship between himself and Black). The porn world, on the other hand, wasn’t as fond as Black was about the possibility of a pro wrestling league such as ECW becoming involved in their industry. Many publications and writers didn’t want to believe that the rumors of interaction between the two parties were anything more than a fictional “wrestling” storyline to get people talking, hoping that there were no intentions to actually pursue any business-related endeavors. The only problem with this mindset was that the interaction between ECW and Extreme Associates was no storyline at all. In fact, their plans for more intense interaction with one another were growing more and more serious by the day… COMING NEXT: Rob Black & The Dudleyz vs. Adult Video News

Ya, it is just amazing. It gets MUCH better, though. God bless Sabu. I'm 7 minutes into New Jack's shoot and it's classic.

Ya, as is Sandman and New Jack's interview from 2004. I'm DLing those too. Actually I have all 3 coming on VHS this week, but I want a preview.

Finally saw it. Must see - definitely the best shoot interview I've ever seen. If you're a wrestling fan, you owe it to yourself to track down this shoot, whether it be direct from RF or from a bootlegger. Great, great interview.

30 MINUTES, TWO MEN, ONE LEGENDARY ENCOUNTER Nashville, TN (January 26, 2005) – On Sunday February 13th at Total Nonstop Action Wrestling’s “Against All Odds” pay-per-view event “Phenomenal” AJ Styles & “Fallen Angel” Christopher Daniels will face off in a thirty minute iron-man match for the X-Division title. Styles & Daniels are two of the most respected pure wrestlers in the business today, and their battles on the independent circuit are legendary. For the first time on pay-per-view, these modern day gladiators will meet in a 30-minute iron-man match with the winner being the man who scores the most pin falls in a 30-minute time limit. “This company and the DOA, Dusty Rhodes, always watch out for their poster-boy,” said Daniels “but on February 13th, AJ Styles will be on his own, one on one with the greatest X-Division wrestler in the world. After 30-minutes, there will be nothing left of the Phenomenal One.” AJ Styles is coming off a victory at last month’s pay-per-view event “Final Resolution” where he re-captured the X-Division title in a historic Ultimate X match. “I have always been a fighting champion, whether it has been the World Heavyweight, Tag-Team or this X-Division title,” said Styles “I am not afraid of any challenge or any competitor, ten minutes, thirty minutes, it could even go an hour. I’ll take them on and I’ll leave Orlando still the champion.” This nonstop wrestling action is just one of several matches already announced for the 3-hour mega pay-per-view event “Against All Odds” on Sunday, February 13th 8PM ET/ 5PM PT. Already signed are: NWA World Heavyweight Championship Match; Champion Jeff Jarrett vs. Kevin Nash NWA World Tag Team Championship Match; Champions America’s Most Wanted vs. Kid Kash & Lance Hoyt Full Metal Mayhem (Tables, Ladders, Chairs & Chains); Abyss vs. “Charismatic Enigma” Jeff Hardy BG James & Jeff Hammond vs. Michael Shane & Kazarian Plus many more…….. The alternative for the true wrestling fan, Total Nonstop Action Wrestling prides itself on delivering quality, family programming that is clean, innovative, cutting edge and with the high-risk, high-flying athleticism that TNA Wrestling is known for. Total Nonstop Action Wrestling “iMPACT!” airs Fridays at 4PM on FSN (check local listings) with a Saturday midnight(local) replay and a Friday night 2AM replay. TNA “Xplosion” is a syndicated program that airs on Sunshine Network, Comcast Sports South and other local channels (check local listings).

SummerSlam '89 blooper - Mean Gene says Fuck on live PPV http://s16.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1EHTQQR...GS043IR6MSVQ5TN

http://s5.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0AE491VBESX0Y3S6SPOUEHOS6S 10 bell salute to Andre the Giant on a '93 edition of RAW

A Hulk Hogan DVD has been released.

http://extreme-2.com/e2/012405.htm It's a streaming file. It should play after loading. Or you can download it to your hard drive: http://extreme-2.com/e2/notguilty/notguilty.WMV Like him or not, Rob is one funny mo'fo.

Hmmm, good question. Sometime in 2003.

Thanks for this stuff. It's awesome.

Being a big XPW fan, I've always wondered what would have happened if Rob Black and Paul Heyman had came to accord during the ECW/Extreme Associates discussions in 1998 and early 1999. Rob was gonna hook Paul up with video distribution in Brazil and EA was going to get figurines put out of their porn stars. Would ECW still be around to this day if a deal had been made?

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Nightline report from last night - http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/Business/s...d=433956&page=1

Video message from Rob: http://extreme-2.com/e2/012405.htm He has some pretty bad words to say about the XPW experience. Pic of him from last night's Nightline with Ted Koppel (which he was featured on the 8/27/03 edition of, when they first covered the indictment): http://socaltomw.home.comcast.net/pics/rb03.jpg

So far I know about BetweenTheRopes.com, AudioWrestling.com, Getinthering.TV, VoiceOfWrestling.com, and TrashTalkingRadio.com. Are there any other sites with archived wrestler audio interviews?

Really? What'd he say? Nightline did a special on August 27, 2003 where they interviewed him about the case, also.

What the heck happened?