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Edited to be something I'd really like to see. Seriously, they had a chance to make a great angle out of this, (Show is the WWE heel against the ECW loyalists), and they couldn't have fucked it up worse. To whoever said there are no options because RVD's out, I've got three right off the top of my head: 1. Show/Sabu: This is the completely obvious choice. Sabu is not suspended, and there's no reason that he couldn't have a quick feud with show over the title before RVD comes back. As long as he's talking now, he could cut a quick promo about how he's what ECW's all about and how Show's not really hardcore, leading to some beatdowns, and an eventual extreme rules match between the two. 2. Show/Sandman: Have Show start off the show in the middle of the ring cutting a boring promo in an ugly ill-fitting suit, only for Sandman to come out and cane the fuck out of him. Instant feud. Sandman talks about how he's been caning wrestlecrap for weeks, and this fat jackass is just another example. 3. Show/Dreamer: They already have a feud going! Why wouldn't this be a perfect time-filler for a few weeks? Dreamer's a good promo, and he could talk about how there's nothing hardcore about getting a fat sellout to win the title for you. If Show sold for Dreamer a little bit, they could have a really fun match.

Quick review of Raw: The Good: Edge. He was an all-around awesome heel last night and showed that he deserved to be wearing the belt. His commentary for the opening match was better than JR and King's, and drinking Mimosas is a great heel move. Foley: That two minute promo he cut on Flair was more intense, entertaining, and believable than anything I've seen in a while. The Bad: Everything else. God, was that an awful show. The Diva Search is even worse than usual this year, and the Miz should never be given a live mic again for the rest of his life. And then we have the McMahons vs. Eugene in the main event? That had to be the least entertaining ME from any promotion in a long, long time. Finally, Big Show/Ric Flair for the ECW title has to be one of the worst ideas I've ever heard, and has me debating between watching the first half hour of ECW tomorrow and tuning out for the main event, or just skipping the show altogether. I mean, they have this storyline where Show's a heel, based almost entirely on the fact that he's not from ECW, so they put him against a WWE/WCW "face" who's 55 years old. Brilliant. Why don't they just make the main event Vince pulling his pants down in the middle of the ring and taking a 20 minute shit on the ECW logo. Oh wait, they're probably saving that for SNME.

Well, I just bought the first season on of the Office and then watched "The Fire" and "Halloween" which I recorded during the marathon and had never seen before. It's kind of weird watching them all in a row like that. They're still pretty hilarious, but the melancholy from the whole Jim/Pam thing comes through a lot more since it's the only thing constant betwen them. I had to watch the end of "Casino Night" again (also on my DVR), just to get myself back in a decent mood about the whole thing. Jim and Pam need to be together damn it!

At least he's not responding to something someone posted on a message board 10 months ago.

She's confined to a wheelchair? Sounds kinky.

I think if you ramble on for more than three sentences without making any attempt at punctuation on your first post, that should be an automatic ban. Seriously, what are the odds of somebody like that becoming a productive poster? 1 in 100,000? 1 in a billion? It's got to be up there anyway.

Aren't you the naive one. They're not going to tell you that they're drugging your dog. It's their dirty little secret. I don't think the FDA's going to be hauling their asses off to jail or anything if they misreport the ingredients in dog treats.

The dog that goes crazy's six pounds. The big dogs don't really respond to him. I'd probably have to eat about 50 to get high, and if I did, I think I'd throw up first.

I don't know how this whole thing got complicated into a big moral dilemma. Here's the situation in a nutshell. Bret refused to drop the belt in a high-profile match because he was a giant mark for himself, and wanted his character to win. As a result, Vince changed the finish of his big PPV match without his knowledge to a situation where he loses the belt, but still looks extremely, extremely, strong since it was obvious he never submitted. He basically leaves the WWF as the legitimate heavyweight champion. This finish made Bret so angry that he whined about it for years and years, long after his career got ended by an incompetent jackass in WCW. Seriously, if you watch "Wrestling with Shadows" (I just watched the last hour again a week ago), it's scary how much of a mark Bret is for himself. He talks about how Vince murdered his character by having him turn heel, and how if he had to play the #2 heel for a while, there was absolutely nowhere for his character to go, and his character would be completely dead. Then, he talks about how they might as well just shoot him in the back of the head if they were going to job him to Shawn, and how giving Shawn a cheap pinfall would be "raping him in the middle of the ring". The way he treats the whole thing, it's almost like he thinks the whole thing's real or something. He also talks about how awful it was that Vince told him to say bad things about the American cities he was in, because he didn't really feel that way about the cities. Uh, hello Bret. You were playing a heel. You don't have to believe every single thing in your heart that you say to get some cheap heat.

Whenever I give them to the dog, if I give her more than one she just starts bouncing off the walls. Also, if she's in the mood for them, she starts pawing the shit out of me to ask for them, and then stares at the cupboard as soon as I get up. She goes really crazy if I don't give her any. I think that the manufacturers put some kind of uppers in there to get dogs addicted. Anyone else notice this phenomenon?

Doesn't look fake to me. Looks like exactly the kind of gay shit they'd do to show us how "cool" and "tough" Cena is.

How about Big Show vs. Sabu for the ECW Title? They said that Sabu's not suspended and with RVD and Angle out, he's far and away ECW's most marketable star.

He doesn't express his opinion very well, but he's right in principle. HBK's probably the greatest all-around wrestler in history.

Well, thank god Sabu's still going to be around. The next four weeks of TV would be rough if he wasn't.

All right, let me preface this by saying that I've been a WWF (and later WWE) fan since I started watching wrestling in 1998. All I ever saw of the old ECW was about five minutes of a crappy promo airing on some obscure channel. I became a huge fan of RVD after his 2001 work in the WWF, started to cool on him when he got jobbed out and lost his motivation, and got really into him again when he started working hard again the last few weeks and putting on really great matches. I've also loved everything I've seen from Sabu thus far (only seeing his WWE work), but most of my connection to ECW is being an RVD mark. With that said, I didn't think this show was that bad. After Raw, I went in expecting to see RVD get jobbed out, and expecting this to be the death knell for the new ECW. Actually, RVD was put over really strong as he kicked out of the chokeslam (when's the last time you saw someone do that), and had Show pinned cleanly before he got screwed by Heyman. All throughout the show, he was put over as the "real champion of ECW", and the short promo he cut on Big Show was the best I've seen since the one he cut on Jericho in December of 2001. (I know at least a couple of you know what I'm talking about here.) I think this still has some potential. We all kind of agreed that the next logical place to go for ECW was to have a WWE guy screw RVD out of the title, and now we have it. It's a little bit premature, but it's also got a lot more heat with the real-life background. Big Show doesn't have X-Pac heat, he has heel heat and more heel heat than anyone in five years at that. The fans weren't bored with the Big Show, they were pissed the fuck off that he was carrying the ECW title. Honestly, if you had me list the things I would most like to see in wrestling right now, #1 wouldn't be The Rock's return, and it certainly wouldn't have anything to do with Hogan or anyone on Raw or Smackdown. It would be for RVD to come back and cleanly beat the Big Show for the ECW World Title. Yeah, it sucks that RVD's suspended for 30 days, and it's going to be even worse since Sabu will probably be gone for just as long, but I think ECW can fade this. Are you telling me that you'd be "bored" watching Heyman shoot on RVD next week and explain why he wasn't the kind of guy he needed to be ECW champion? Are you telling me you'd be "bored" watching Dreamer feud with Show for the honor of ECW, or watching a Sandman/Show feud for the next two weeks when that wears thin? Would you be "bored" when RVD comes back, cuts a great promo, and kicks Show in his fat fuck, no talent face? What if he wins back the title on a televised special two months from now once this whole arrest thing blows over. Yeah, I know the midcard could use some work, and the whole show could still easily fall apart, but right now, I think ECW would be a hell of a lot easier to fix than boring-ass Raw and Smackdown, or even worse, TNA. As a wrestling fan, I'm still excited to see what happens next.

The Cranky Old Men were pretty pissed about after falling out of first. They came out fired up on Monday with 17 hits including 4 HRs.

Umm, this is the preview for tonight's ECW show: It doesn't say anywhere that the Edge/RVD match is still on.

If I hadn't just slept for 14 hours, I think this match might put me back to sleep. No one's even getting any good chances. I almost wonder if I should even bother watching the OT. We all know it's going to penalty kicks.

That's the thing. They don't even pretend like it's another federation. It's just a different brand under the WWE umbrella, like Raw and Smackdown. They could have done this whole thing a hell of a lot better, but then again, if they're going to blow the whole promotion apart by firing/suspending/depushing RVD and Sabu, it won't matter anyway.

Third? Fucko! My team's just gone to shit lately.

It's not like that's the date where anything would actually be resolved. That's the date that sets up the date that sets up the date where they might decide when they're going to plead. Shit, I got a DUI on December 1, and the first hearing that actually deals with the case is still three weeks away.

Well, I'd think of painkillers as even less of an offense than weed since someone taking bumps on the road 4 nights a week would be more likely to use them for their prescribed purpose than for recreation. I mean you can get a doctor to give you Vicodin for 1/4 of the pain that people like RVD and Sabu deal with night in, night out. RVD wasn't found with anything other than the weed and vicodin, and he's the one I was talking about here.

This whole thing seems like a little bit of an overreaction. I mean if RVD did get probation that prevented him from traveling or something, it wouldn't be for months. Why not just let the angle go to it's natural conclusion at SNME? The drug policy obviously wasn't implemented for weed, it was for hard drugs and steroids. I think they basically killed their next few weeks of TV (including a SNME episode that's pretty important to their future on NBC) over absolutely nothing.

I know this is a couple pages back, but I just wanted to say that Triple Threat matches have ALWAYS been NO DQ in the WWF/WWE. Always. We've had this discussion on about 8 different occasions.

Only the WWE title's on the line. And if they go through with this, I think the writing's on the wall for RVD and ECW. If they can't even wait until Tuesday for him to drop the title, he's finished.