bob_barron

My roomate thinks I'm a psycho thanks to my long profane filled tirade directed at Resuckma and Marerro

They deserved to lose today. Just no effort out there

Really? I remember they went through a stretch where they lost 5 straight series. I didn't know that.

They got another run- so they're chipping away. Drew and Jones have been totally ineffective so far. I don't want to have Sheff flashbacks

Atlanta is well known for having the worst fans in the world. This is because no one who lives in Atlanta is from Atlanta and thus they haven't really grown up liking the Braves like other cities. The Braves haven't really done anything since 99 so the fans have just become bored. Roger Clemens "stomach virus" has been upgraded to almost being on his deathbed. Christ.

You've posted in some threads Banky- so I respect your opinion. I think they can beat the Astros and still do. The Astros have loaded up teams before and always fall flat. The Braves are a good team- they don't blow you away and no one posts real gawdy stats- but they just go out there and do what they have to do to win. It's just so far they haven't.

Considering they won 95 games and had the second best record in the NL (this is all after at one point being 33-39) I'd say they are pretty damn good. Just not today. They're a resilient team. Many teams have trouble putting them away.

Why is TSA posting in the baseball thread? This is game of wasted opportunities and the Braves are paying for it. They got the top of the order coming up in the 6th- they need to get something done off the Houston bullpen.

I actually have limited the personal attacks on you for the most part. YOU'RE the one who came in here saying I was in over my head. But of course you realised you're overmatched by people more intelligent then you so you run. I'll still be responding though. Especially since it's now 6-1. I can't watch Friday's debate sadly.

This sucks. The Braves are so frustrating right now. 1st and 2nd 1 out- JD Drew pops up. COME ON. It's just one game and maybe they can put some runs together- but Rocket's given them a gift and they can't do shit with it.

Come on Mike- shouldn't you be watching the game?

RCP averages still have Bush winning Ohio and Iowa. Kerry is winning New Mexico. I have no idea anyone is stupid enough to think Edwards won. Well except for NY Untouchable- but I'll respond to him after the Braves game is over.

Was that one word post really worth an exclamation point?

As Mike said- he only had 30 seconds. Edwards only brought up Haliburton during his 90 second rebuttals. What was Cheney supposed to do? Do what Edwards did and completely ignore questions just to babble on about health care? Again- if that's his biggest mistake then he did a great job. I didn't expect them to do anything. I just think a lot of people probably watch the post debate analysis where they immediately go over the facts. He screwed up. Big deal. Still kicked Edwards ass. He had only 30 seconds to rip Edwards apart. That's not a lot of time. He didn't do too badly on domestic issues- but Edwards kept trying to give rhetoric-Cheney kept giving facts. I think the answer given by Kerry and Edwards is just their attempt to try and pander to everyone so they don't offend everyone. Against gay marriage, for the same rights, blah blah. They're too afraid to lose swing conservative voters so thye just try to please everyone. At least Bush has a stance on the issue. What can Cheney do exactly? He's given his stance on the issue. CHENEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING. He can't vote on anything (unless it's a tie), he can't block a bill. Should he resign cause he disagrees with President Bush on one issue? Edwards obviously had no real stance on gay marriage so he tried to bring a man's personal life into the forefront to make a point. He failed. Still waiting for a source. He shouldn't have gone back to the issue once. Answer the fucking question and wait for them to ask about health care. I didn't really get Edwards' plan and he seemed to have trouble refuting Cheney and the Medicare Bill. The attacks weren't off topic. Cheney was absolutely right in bringing up the fact that Edwards has a weak voting record. (Well when he showed up) Cheney kept pointing out that Edwards and Kerry have questionable voting records- that's important. Which were all soundly debunked time and time again by Cheney. But Edwards does score points since Cheney could not refute the fact that Edwards' father learned to read from watching TV. Actually I do. The point is to sum up everything you've said during the debate and say why the American public should vote for you. I learned that Edwards' father watched TV. Edwards had no idea what he was talking about since despite the evilness of the Bush administration- you can still learn to read from TV. The light is flickering? The hell? And it doesn't seem like the economy is starting to falter at all. Edwards didn't make any points. He didn't leave an impression on the American voter. Anecdotes are useless. Tell me the facts. No it didn't. Edwards is Bill Clinton-lite. He comes off as a lawyer trying to give a convincing closing argument. Coincidence? No. Cheney did what he had to do. He stuck to what he focused on throughout the debate and reiterate what he had been saying all along. I'm sorry he didn't try to speak in a somber tone or pander to the lowest common denominator. Cheney spoke the truth and told everyone why it was important to vote for him. I understood what Edwards was trying to do. But he failed. Miserably. Oh God. That's your best defence for Edwards? He was 'nervous'? If Kerry wins- Edwards is a heartbeat away from being president. I don't want a guy as president who gets nervous and lets it affect a simple debate. Come on now. I'm sure Cheney was kind of nervous as well. But he can obviously handle the pressure. Edwards can't. No he didn't. Cheney used facts and figured and Edwards' own record against him. Edwards just tried to use the same shit he's been talking about on the campaign. And it didn't work.

I'm glad someone else noticed Chris Resuckma's tendency for blowing games. The Braves' middle relief has good stats but they scare me. Resuckma has a sub-4 ERA but it always seems like he is out there blowing games or cutting it really close. He's like Ortiz. Even though he hasn't been good at all to end the regular season- I still would've pitched Ortiz in the rotation. He did win 15 games and when he's on- he's on. I don't know if the Astros are going with a 4 or 3 man. I hope it's a 3 man cause I don't want to face Rocket in the event of a Game 5.

I'm on a plane during Game 2 and I might have to miss some of 3 and 4 so it's essential I see Game 1. Ortiz hasn't been great lately but he still won 15 games and is a damn good pitcher. I don't like that he's one of those guys that needs men on base and then he starts pitching effectively. It always worries me. I'm glad Cox is not going with a 3 man rotation. It never seems to work and I don't like guys going on 3 days rest.

Yea I admit that- but I assume it'd be corrected by any one of the fact check people they always have. If that's his biggest bluder then I think he did pretty well. I'll respond to NYU's points when I have more time

Hampton is going Game 2 and I think Ortiz is going Game 4. I'm so excited for this game. I'm gonna bail on class if our teacher keeps us past 3:30

Gary Sheffield- 0-2 Still got it!

Cheney said that Haliburton was bullshit, and gave out an address where you could view that everything Kerry/Edwards say on it is crap. I don't even know if he gave out the wrong one but I'm sure anything like that will be immeadiately be corrected by the fact checkers on the post-news coverage. But if Cheney getting a website wrong is his biggest screw up then yea- Cheney kicked his ass. Edwards has nothing to say on gay marriage. His stance on the issue is one of the dumbest sleaziest things I've ever heard. His stance on the issue is his and Kerry's pathetic attempts to pander to every possible group and not offend anyone. It should be noted that Cheney has broke ranks with his party on the issue of gay marriage. Why did Edwards have to bring his daughter into it? What did that even accomplish? Edwards got in a couple good barbs but I really don't see where or why Cheney was supposed to kick his ass there. Care to provide source. Edwards knew his health care and it was kind of pathetic. It's the one thing he kept going back to on many issues where health care wasn't even part of the discussion. Cheney kept reeling out the facts while Edwards tried the Al Gore personal story approach. It didn't work in 2000. I don't give a fuck that John Edwards' father watched TV to learn to read. Why should you do? Why does this make him qualified to be President if God forbid something happened? Why does this make him qualified to be Vice President? Why does this make him qualified to be anything? It's not important and it's just pandering to the lowest common denominator. If you think that was powerful then you're one of the morons Edwards was pandering to. Cheney spoke in a calm deliberate manner. He explained what was important and why his team was the best to run with these issues. John Edwards talked about TV. You're wrong. You're flat out 100% wrong. Cheney schooled Edwards tonight. He looked calm and comfortable while Edwards often looked nervous and was sweating. At times Cheney looked like he was bored since it was oging so well. Cheney just attacked Edwards on almost everything. He used Kerry and Edwards' own record against him while Edwards went on the defensive all night. I'm sorry your boy didn't win. Last week my guy didn't do to well either. At least except it and move on. Edwards got beat.

So are SteveyP93 and an intelligent point.

Gene Snitsky and the Lita-Kane-Snitsky angle is the funniest thing to happen on RAW in a while. People need to accept that

Yep. Keep thinking that. I think last week's debate was a draw with Kerry coming out looking a little better even though he hasn't gained anything in the electoral vote since the debate. I wasn't even going to watch the whole debate (Yankees v. Twins) but Cheney kept getting in such good barbs that I sat down and watched the whole thing. And John Edwards failed. Miserably.

Wow. Just.....wow. I don't even know where to begin. Is that because you know in your heart that Edwards got OWNED tonight? The funny thing is- based on his previous CE posts it seems like Loss HATES Bush and he even agrees Edwards got owned.

Cheney got more on Edwards' and Kerry's lack of senate attendance then Edwards did on Haliburton. They walked into a corner with Haliburton. Kerry and Edwards keep attacking it because they know it's what their party wants to hear but when you bring into a debate- they just get exposed as not having anything to say.