VX, I know the Packers are facing a lot of adversity right now with their holdouts/potential holdouts/troubles, but I don't see them finishing worse than 7-9 which could very well be enough for a 2nd place finish. Favre will take them on his back and carry them, as he's done many years now. How did the Packers do when they lost Sterling Sharpe? Mark Chmura? Reggie White? Just fine.